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Ex-husband in turmoil, Sadness, Anger, Confusion (Not about the divorce)

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SlightyConfussedMostOfTheTIME · 12/08/2022 09:42

Because of my first question receiving a few comments that helped, which you may want to view as it explains a fair bit about my ex and the fact I didn't want a divorce, although that question was related to my daughter.

Anyhow. After nearly two years of being apart, and having been divorced for eight months, I wrote to my Ex to let her know about my intention to go on holiday, this would be the first time since all our troubles started, and I had decided to go alone to get that "Manned Up" feeling again, although I had friends offer to go with me, I decided it was the right thing to do. Anyhow, in my email, we haven't spoken a physical word to each other in nearly two years, I discussed our youngest daughter, we have two. Hence those interested might wish to see what I wrote on another matter as it's certainly pertinent given it explains a lot about the sort of person she is and how she's acted.

But not to digress. After said email is obviously read by her she sends me a reply, unusual to say the least, then shortly after I receive a call from a mobile number I didn't know, I run a business so it's not unusual for this to happen. Picking up, I hear the Ex say, hi it's X, and that it's easier to talk about our daughter in person, and being we live at the opposite ends of the same small town, I agreed but feeling rather apprehensive about it, but this was our daughter and not knowing what needed, or was going to be said we made arrangements to meet her half way, but to be honest, the thought of seeing her again, irrespective of everything gave be butterflies.

So, an hour later I walk up to the bar where she's sitting outside, she has a bottle of beer waiting on the table, and there she was, just as I remember, my wife of thirty three years looking back at me. I sat and for a few minutes I made her laugh, made her smile and her eyes twinkled in the sun with the light blue hue that I fell for so badly for all those years ago.

Then things turned a bit........serious. She looks straight at me and said.....I had a brain bleed in June and nearly died, pulling her hair back on the side of her head and showing me a scar of around six inches long!

In between wanting to cry, vomit with shock and all whilst still trying to maintain a degree of dignity as the place was packed, she went into this meltdown, one that I remember well, f-ing this and that for all to hear, me? I was still sitting in stunned silence with my eyes fixed on hers, afterall, this was the first I have heard of it. She told me she had sworn our kids to silence, which felt like an icy finger at the nape of my neck, this was my first issue that did not actually involve her. Firstly the 19yo was living with me and I was having a lot of problems with her a few months ago, which I tried to pass off as an age thing, but she'd break out into tears occasionally and I'd offer some reassuring words and give her a cuddle say that I was always here for her and she could say, or tell me anything, but apparently not!

At the same time my eldest daughter, 23 and had just started her first teaching job, became more distant, which I put down to her work commitments, but that just wasn't the case at all. Me being the person I am, no matter what the past had involved between us, I sat, listened to the ex, I talked a little, she talked a lot, and then she, without any regard to what was being discussed said, but I'm glad you're going on holiday!

Then it hit me like a sledgehammer, and once again I felt like a fool with her in front of me, not seeing the obvious, she wasn't here to talk to me about our daughter, or even to "finally" tell me about her near death experience, she was here to screw up my holiday......Or, was she? ergo the question, what's people's opinion? My mind is blown, A, for the fact I hadn't a clue. B, she made our girls promise not to tell me anything, which effectively meant their biggest support mechanism was removed. C, had she died then there were no plans, no information, no nothing.

Being a decent, caring person I think what she did was cruel, especially as there was never any mention of violence or fear emparted on the Ex from me, she just turned into something she wasn't for nearly three decades preceding the start of her/our problems, and if the truth be told, it was strictly the other way round, so what could, or would it have hurt for me to know and to look after our kids when they needed me most.

Anyhow, I have a tendency to waffle, a few people on my previous question noted this, but I talk for a living and because of the job I have little to no filters and tend to write more because nothing is taboo and everything is connected.

As ever, your advice, comments and thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

OP posts:
NeverDropYourMooncup · 13/08/2022 05:08

Buythebag40 · 12/08/2022 23:58

which felt like an icy finger at the nape of my neck

This is my favourite bit 😂
Have you written a book? I'd read it if I was desperately trying to nod off

Probably called something like Mea Culpa: The Travails of a Nice Guy.

TheWeeDonkey · 13/08/2022 05:44

Buythebag40 · 12/08/2022 23:58

which felt like an icy finger at the nape of my neck

This is my favourite bit 😂
Have you written a book? I'd read it if I was desperately trying to nod off

I think I might have read that one actually.

Good news OP, you go on the holiday, you meet a hotel worker/diving instructor/travel guide who at first appears arrogant and annoying but has beautiful eyes/hair/butt. You're involved in some mild peril that they help you out with and in doing so show you their more human vulnerable side. You end up having an all consuming holiday romance that you never want to end.

It ends with; A, They come back to live with you happily ever after. B, you stay with them and open a quirky guest house/diving school/travel company and live happily ever after.

💞 THE END 💞

Fluffylittlepup · 13/08/2022 05:56

Would you give a link to your other thread please OP.

TokyoTen · 13/08/2022 06:00

To summarise: you were going on holiday, but recently met up with your ex and found she had been seriously ill. You now don't feel like going.

My advice is (1) keep away from your ex she sounds as if she likes a bit if drama just deal with her by email in future (2) go on holiday to help yourself overcome your broken relationship. She is over you as she has a BF so move on

FunsizedandFabulous · 13/08/2022 06:07

I don't understand the issue here. You are divorced. Your children are adults. You want to go on holiday.

So go on holiday.

Fluffylittlepup · 13/08/2022 06:14

This.

Fluffylittlepup · 13/08/2022 06:17

Sorry, I was agreeing with AgentJohnson’s post there ^

deeperthanallroses · 13/08/2022 06:17

If I had an ex husband and then had a brain baller I would absolutely only have had the brain bleed to spoil his holiday where he was manning up so now he can’t man up.
no, actually, if I had a solo holiday planned I’d be super exciting and an update like your ex’s brain bleed would do absolutely nothing to diminish this excitement. This solo holiday would have nothing whatsoever to do with manning up, it would just be taking a holiday. It would be annoying that I didn’t know what was going on with my adult children, but it is quite possible from this post that you would have been terrible emotional support and made it all about you, so none of them wanted to tell you and your ex is saying she forbade them from telling you to make her the bad guy so you don’t criticise your children.

ivykaty44 · 13/08/2022 06:23

Just get in with your life, no need to email your ex to tell them you’re going on holiday. There was no need to meet up either, so moving forward don’t do that again.

it appears from your post you like creating drama 🎭 and this may well be the reason your ex wanted her health issues kept from you as your adult children had enough to deal with, without you creating extra drama around the situation

Nugg · 13/08/2022 06:30

Strange posts from you.

FWIW I went on holiday recently. Abroad. Alone. Didn't tell exH even though our son lives with us 50:50. I arranged it with my son and made sure he knew when I was way etc.

Easy.

JennyForeigner · 13/08/2022 06:49

I can see why she didn't want to tell you.

ShandaLear · 13/08/2022 07:00

I talk for a living. I work in an institute where about 50% of the staff talk for a living. We all have filters. Your wife had a brain tumour and swore your daughters to secrecy so you wouldn’t go off on one and make it all about you. And you’re still managing to make it all about you. Your ex didn’t have a secret brain tumour to stop you going on holiday.

mathanxiety · 13/08/2022 07:08

She's talking to you about the brain bleed because when people go through a close shave it makes them reassess relationships. Sometimes they try to reconnect with people they haven't talked to for two years. Sometimes there's a hatchet to be buried. A near death experience reminds you that life can be too short to keep grudges.

There's nothing more to it. Enjoy your holiday.

Tell your girls to please speak up if there's anything bothering them, that you hate to think of them suffering without support from you.

mathanxiety · 13/08/2022 07:11

Also, what @ShandaLear said - you have managed at length to make this woman's health problem all about your feelings. It is very clear why she didn't want your daughters to tell you. The girls are adults and would be aware of all arrangements, etc

Granforjam · 13/08/2022 07:18

Hahaha OP accusing someone of hating books for criticizing the relevancy of half their post. Sorry OP, if you knew anything at all about writing, you'd know how poor your writing in your post is. Reads like a child's attempt at creative writing.

Relevance is one of the most important aspects of communication. Try to think about what your trying to say and summarize it in bullets before you write it - it will massively improve your written communication skills.

PinaColadaSunset · 13/08/2022 07:30

Go on holiday. There is absolutely nothing stopping you. Except yourself.

iRun2eatCake · 13/08/2022 07:37

GreenManalishi · 12/08/2022 11:12

Your children are adults. Your wife had a near fatal illness and has let you know. She asked that the kids not tell you. They are still adults. You feel it's ruined your holiday. You still like her eyes. Your daughter is moving out. Have I missed anything?

Thank-you for summarising the word vomit

justasking111 · 13/08/2022 07:49

SlightyConfussedMostOfTheTIME · 12/08/2022 10:34

I was writing to my Ex to explain about her having the ability to collect the youngest's items from our house, she's moving in with her BF and it all connects with my first question on here, about the daughter.

In essence, I was saying that if the Ex wanted to help her move then she would be welcome to come into my house to help her take her stuff. Knowing she wouldn't unless I had given it the okay being that I wasn't going to be there.

Well I wouldn't meet up with her again she's still not in a good place the near death experience must have been terrifying. Let your daughter sort things out herself.

I'm not sure what she accomplished and suspect neither does she. Don't unpick it just enjoy your holiday.

HowlongWillThisTakeNow · 13/08/2022 07:52

So Your Ex wife of 30 years has had a serious operation and didn’t tell you?
maybe she thinks it’s not really your business any more.
go on holiday and enjoy yourself

Fluffylittlepup · 13/08/2022 08:03

OP, cutting through the flowery prose (please do not use that anymore), you feel your ex is gaslighting you.

If so, you can respond or not. You can accept that she still has an emotional hold over you and it’s curtailing your life to the point where you will now not go on your holiday or accept that she doesn’t (because you need to move on) and go on your holiday.

Which outcome do you prefer and which outcome would give you the most self reliance?

BecauseICan22 · 13/08/2022 08:51

Your writing is weak, predictable and overly descriptive - I rolled my eyes, a lot.

Stop whining about your ex-wife and go on your holiday. If you don't go, that's ok too.

RelentlessForwardProgress · 13/08/2022 08:57

If you had known at the time, you would have made it all about you.

She's just told you when its all in the past, and you've made it all about you. But she's well enough to weather your reaction now. She got to know you well during your marriage.

Fluffylittlepup · 13/08/2022 09:00

RelentlessForwardProgress · 13/08/2022 08:57

If you had known at the time, you would have made it all about you.

She's just told you when its all in the past, and you've made it all about you. But she's well enough to weather your reaction now. She got to know you well during your marriage.

And yet she chose to go and meet him.

Trixiefirecracker · 13/08/2022 09:06

The grammar and way of writing in this significantly over verbose text has me leaning towards thinking it is undeniable in the inexplicable. Please attempt normal sentence renewal to present, in plain terms, the crux of all matters.. 🤣.

Staygoldponyboystaygold · 13/08/2022 10:26

Do you read a lot of Mills and Boon op? Just curious.

Go on the holiday, you’re being ridiculous.