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Dp's behaviour has changed since he's been WFH - would this drive you mad too?

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BambooHandle · 08/08/2022 13:49

have name changed for this and will try keep it as short as possible

dp lost his job in Covid times and only recently has he found something else which is a fully WFH role, only part time and earning about half of what he did before. It should take up around 3 days of his week. It's in IT which was his previous role (we have no dcs together but have them separately, not married, both late 40s, early 50s).

He said he needed a proper work room to do that so we got a shed in the garden, which doubles as a room for gym equipment. I thought great, now all his stuff can go in there. Except he then said the shed was too loud (it backs onto the railway line) and he needed to do his calls inside. So slowly but surely, he has moved all his shit into the dining room. I still WOTH 99% of the time but I deal with a lot of different time zones so I also need somewhere to do calls early in the day or late in the evening. I used to use the dining room but now can’t as it’s covered in his IT stuff so I created a space in dd’s bedroom (she’s abroad this year) with a desk and a neat pile of stuff I need for calls. I came back from work last week to find that he is now working in that nice space I have set up every day because the dining room is full, the dining room is open plan to the lounge and he lets his kids sit there and watch TV/shit on the internet all day so he can’t do calls when they are watching TV, the shed is too loud and he loves the nice, neat space I have created.

I can barely move for his crap everywhere I look. There are literally these IT things (cables, motherboards, chips, keyboards) everywhere – piled on the floor, 4 deep on the dining room table, in the shed etc. and now in my neat space. I told him last week that he had to sort it out because it wasn’t acceptable and he says he is trying but it’s hard as he’s got his kids for a few weeks for the holidays and he’s trying to work too and look after the dog. We have cameras set up on the front and back of the house and one internally that we barely look at but it’s useful when we’re away and when we’re out for the dog. He keeps telling me how busy he is and I have been falling for it. But when I checked the cameras last week, I could tell he wasn’t even walking the dog yet he told me one of the reasons he was busy is that he took the dog out for a few hours. I then see on the internal cameras that he gets up, watches shit on TV, maybe does one call, has a nice nap, watches a bit more shit on TV and maybe cooks some food and that is literally it and he’s on his phone the whole time, like even walking through the house while typing. I’m not on social media but I had a quick look at his and he is posting all day, like posts every couple of minutes on twitter. Some of the work meetings he’s told me he needs to do have been twitter meet ups it turns out. Every time I challenge him, there is some excuse. This morning he tells me how his ‘friend’ on twitter was threatening suicide and he had to be there for him and that’s why he’s found it hard to work as he had to be his support all week and that’s why he didn’t take the dog out (why lie to me the lazy sod!). This week his ‘other friend’ is having marital problems so he needs to spend some time helping him. It’s like I can’t get anywhere without him trying to make me feel like an utter shit for challenging him! I had a good look through his social media and he has styled himself as someone people ask help from – like every time someone posts a question, he will find the answer (as he's on there all day so always available) so he’s now built up this reputation as some sort of ‘helpful’ bod so I can see now why loads of people are now bothering him with their troubles.

The weird thing is he was not like this before – he had a job that he had to go into an office for, he worked hard and he came home and everything was fine. Now that he is WFH, everything has gone tits up and I think it’s because he doesn’t have interaction with people anymore (as he’s hugely sociable, I am not!) and he’s using social media to replace it. I said I thought he was being hugely lazy and he burst into tears and said I was being unfair. He now obviously sees how pissed off I am and is sending me messages saying how much he loves me but tbh I am going right off him at the moment. I’ve even texted this morning to make sure he takes the poor dog out – I was expecting him to go this morning when it was cool and of course he hasn’t so he says he is waiting till later as the dog was asleep but he now won’t be able to be walked till tonight because of the heat. Quite frankly, I don’t want another child as a partner and don’t want a man in his 50s who is addicted to being wanted on social media.

So am I being mean or would this drive you mad too?

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MrsWooster · 08/08/2022 13:53

You are not being mean. It would drive me mad.

Rafferty10 · 08/08/2022 13:59

I could not tolerate that and am surprised you have not put your foot down.

Sell the shed, bin the stuff taking up the living/dining room table and take it back for eating on.
Reclaim your spare room, lock if necessary.

Give him an ultimatum, out of the house job or split up.

The lying is the last straw.

BambooHandle · 08/08/2022 14:00

thanks @MrsWooster . It's like a social media addiction - he has got addicted to these people tweeting stuff to him all day and 'needing' him. Even as we got into bed last night, I could see he was talking to this bloke (it's all out in the open as it's on twitter so he's not hiding it). I worry he's a step away from losing his job because I don't think he's working at all.

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BambooHandle · 08/08/2022 14:02

yes I think it is ultimatum time

tbh he has been telling me how busy he is and I believed him. He's never lied before and I had no reason to doubt him. Now I know he's been lying all along, I am bloody furious

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Blueberrywitch · 08/08/2022 14:03

You’re not being mean, that would drive me mad. He needs to move out of your office and make his own space and he needs to walk the dog twice a day or pay someone to walk it for him. Poor dog!!

Wombat27A · 08/08/2022 14:05

He needs to "go to" work and be supervised. Time for an office-based role.

Poor dog.

PersonaNonGarter · 08/08/2022 14:06

You are doing really well.

Give him the next few days to move back to the shed. If everything isn’t out by the weekend then you move it there.

Be kind calm and assertive because his mental health is obviously not great. But, you are going to need not to resent him if you are going to help him. And the first part of that is you getting your house back.

He will make a massive fuss, but he lied to you so don’t listen. He goes back to the shed.

BambooHandle · 08/08/2022 14:07

yes I furious about the dog. He only has to walk him on 2 days as we have a walker on the other 3 (when he's supposed to be working) so it's not even that much to ask! And if he had told me he couldn't do it, i would have got up early and walked the poor dog myself!

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KirstenBlest · 08/08/2022 14:07

Whose house is it? Do you jointly own/rent it?

BambooHandle · 08/08/2022 14:07

no, it's my house (I own it)

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Maray1967 · 08/08/2022 14:13

Good - do Kay fine the law to him and kick him back out to the shed.

Maray1967 · 08/08/2022 14:13

So lay down the law!!

KirstenBlest · 08/08/2022 14:15

He'd be out on his ear, @BambooHandle , for the lying, if nothing else. He's a lying, pisstaking, cocklodger.

PersonaNonGarter · 08/08/2022 14:18

I actually think you could cut him a bit of slack - this job loss has clearly affected him and his productivity has been poleaxed.

But that doesn’t change the lying or the rejecting his responsibilities. For that reason I would be being quite assertive over the space, and the stuff would be back in the shed. His behaviour has consequences. And now he needs to look for a new job.

BambooHandle · 08/08/2022 14:18

yes, it's just such a dramatic change in his character - if I hadn't known the dp of old, I think he would be out on his ear already.

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Cantbeliveyoufakeit · 08/08/2022 14:25

I would spell out to him exactly what you've posted here about his SM use and his motivation for it, it might open his eyes if you put it to him the way you have here. And then I'd use that as leverage to get him diverting all that time and energy he's spending 'helping' people into looking for a job outside the home.

He also needs to hear that you are starting to feel like his mother and that your relationship is unlikely to survive if he continues casting you in that role, having to 'parent' him will kill your attraction to him stone dead.

Make today 'enough is enough' day, tell him everything you've posted here and insist the space in your DD's room is cleared immediately, followed by the other areas over the next few days. He's being allowed to delude himself that the way he's behaving is fine, because you've given him the benefit of the doubt up til now, but it's time to burst his bubble because he's not currently adding anything positive to your life is he?

BambooHandle · 08/08/2022 14:30

yes that's exactly it @Cantbeliveyoufakeit . I don't actually want sex with him at the moment because he's not attractive to me. I do feel like his mother! He's not adding anything to my life, if anything, he's taking away and it's making me so resentful.

I have messaged him that we need to chat tonight because it really is getting to the point where I can't cope with him the way he is. I don't think he realises how much he has changed in a year but it is like he is a completely different person.

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TooHotToTangoToo · 08/08/2022 14:31

Nothing wrong with taking naps and being on sm if you're working part time and your boss is happy with your work. Op are you ok financially with him working pt or is it a stop gap until a ft position comes up?

What isn't fair is that he's opting out of regular housework, saying he's too busy. As he's working less hours than the op I'd expect him to be doing more chores, making tea and walking the dog. Work comes first, then housework, dog etc then a nap.

As for him spreading out across the house. Use this time to spell it out to him, he picks a room and sticks with it. I think the op mentioned she also wfh, why not use the shed for your space, I use a converted shed as my office and love it.

Cantbeliveyoufakeit · 08/08/2022 14:36

That's exactly why I mentioned spelling out the SM stuff you've figured out tbh, he's essentially disappeared up his own arse and probably hasn't even realised. Hopefully the short, sharp shock of you pointing it all out to him will be enough to bring him back, because if not he's well on his way to being a cocklodger I'm afraid.

OzziePopPop · 08/08/2022 14:38

I couldn’t be with a liar.

I also would struggle hugely with anyone who neglects their pets.

But that’s me… if you do issue an ultimatum be sure to follow it though, or it’s useless!

TheBestBitch · 08/08/2022 14:51

I would be very unhappy with this. The mess would drive me insane and I wouldn't tolerate it. Neither would I tolerate young adults making so much noise that it was impossible to make calls. It is all very unsexy, you're right!

What I would say is learn from my fairly recent mistake: I was fed up with my very brilliant and lovely husband and instead of saying "look, I'm struggling with xyz and I wish we had more of this and that and how can we work it out darling?" I said "I am going off you because you are whiny and you moan a lot and I am fed up of all the negativity and I'm pissed off about xxx and I'm not at all looking forward to the night away we have planned because of it"

Wrong approach! To be fair my dh said ok, fair enough, I'm sorry, how are we going to work it out? And we did work it out and we went away and had a brilliant time and I have since apologised for how I said what I said. I've also decided that while it's fine to be honest with my dh, I need to discuss any problems we're having in a kinder and more constructive way.

dearhummingbirds · 08/08/2022 15:00

He sounds depressed.

SpindleTurning · 08/08/2022 15:05

KirstenBlest · 08/08/2022 14:15

He'd be out on his ear, @BambooHandle , for the lying, if nothing else. He's a lying, pisstaking, cocklodger.

Hence the tears? I'm sympathetic to everyone due to this bloody pandemic and recession, but not to men who lie, don't walk their dogs, and don't pull their weight.

@BambooHandle I'd be seriously thinking about pulling the plug now, while you have your wits about you.

Boomeranga · 08/08/2022 15:29

I would not tolerate that. Not ever. It sounds stressful and like a messy shithole. He is constantly putting his needs over yours and disrespecting you. And he is lying to you. Poor dog too.

Could you imagine how peaceful your day would be if he lived somewhere else?

Boomeranga · 08/08/2022 15:30

He sounds like he needs to find a new job, with colleagues in an actual office!