Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Relationships

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

Am I wrong to feel unsettled?

78 replies

finalchance · 05/08/2022 06:12

Long story short, I am very recently married after a whirlwind relationship (been together just under 2 years). For me, he is all I have ever wanted. I was married before for a very long time to a narcissist and it feels great to be with someone who doesn't play games. We have 5 kids between us and he is a great dad to his kids and a great stepdad to mine. He works hard and had 3 jobs before we met. I earn a lot more than him from my job (I am self employed) and have encouraged him to dial down his working hours as he is constantly knackered and he doesn't need to work as much any more. I pay all the bills (my house, my ex-marital home, he is not on mortgage) including food. He pays the car loan, his own expenses (credit card, catalogue, child maintenance) and any discretionary spending such as holidays. I still pay for things like meals out and cinema etc. Tbh I probably pay for way more than I should but that is another story.

The issue I have is sex. Or lack of it. When we first met it was instant attraction for me, we seemed very compatible that way. I told him he was the best I ever hard, which is true. He has never said anything like that to me. When asked he said the sex was "good". He is almost 10 years younger than me (I am in my late 40s) and has been with a lot more sexual partners. When we lived apart I would see him most nights and we always had sex. Since he moved in last year, this has dwindled and I put it down to the kids always being around (mine are teenagers, his are too but don't live with him) and to the hours he worked. However over the last couple of months, there has been a drastic change. When we do have sex, it is very "samey", it doesn't last long and he seems to be just going through the motions. When I try to instigate it, he isn't interested. A few times he has woken me out of a sleep for sex (he has woken me and I have been up for it, he hasn't "preyed" on me whilst I am sleeping before anyone asks). The thing is, we haven't had sex for nearly 3 weeks now. We still cuddle and he tells me he loves me every day and is affectionate but there has been no sexual contact. I go to bed naked every night and I am wrapped around him and nothing. He would rather watch TV. I tried sexting yesterday and sent him some naughty pics at his work and he responded that he couldn't wait to get me into bed but when last night came there was no action again. He took me out for dinner and we had a nice night and he did say when we went to bed that he felt very stuffed but it was almost like he said it to let me know not to expect anything.

I am now convinced he just isn't attracted to me anymore. He tells me I look "nice" sometimes but has never looked at me like he couldn't wait to get his hands on me. I have gone from wearing the frumpiest jammies I could find and avoiding going to bed when I was with my ex so as to avoid his advances to practically throwing myself at my now DH and getting nowhere. It is eating away at my self esteem and after being rejected again last night, I feel very low and dejected this morning. I have asked him in the past about his lack of interest and he just keeps saying when he is tired he just doesn't feel horny. I kind of get this but when I think back to the start of our relationship, I would often see him after 11pm when he has finished his 3rd job and he was up for it then. Also if he isn't too tired to watch TV in bed then how can he be too tired for sex?

He stopped working his 3rd job when he moved in and has changed his main job but he hates it. He is going to cut back on his hours next month so that he doesn't have to work Saturday mornings and he can get his weekends back. We are exploring the possibility of him coming to work with me eventually so we can both have a better work life balance as we can share the load. He has always been the main breadwinner in previous relationships, sometimes the only breadwinner and has always put in the hours to provide for his kids. He doesn't need to do that now and I have encouraged him to slow down with work and actually have a life. He is now going to do that but will be swapping to a different shift and will be working til midnight every night and will be out working his 2nd job for a good few hours every day. So although there will be no weekend working I will see less of him - and there will be less chance of sex too due to the time he will get home at night. He does an early shift just now and is up at 4am every day so I get that he is tired at night but he often doesn't go to bed til after 10 or 11 and will just watch TV or be asleep after 10 mins. I work from the house. I get up with him every morning and prep his lunch and make him coffee and he does say thank you to me regularly for this, telling me he appreciates it as I don't need to do it. Sometimes I go back to bed once he is gone and sometimes I just start work.

I just don't know what to do - or what to think. Is it a case of marry in haste, repent at leisure? Does he see me as a meal ticket? He pays no rent, gets all meals provided, has been able to cut down on his working hours and is managing to put some savings aside for the first time in his adult life. I foot the bill for everything but then I offered this as the way I see it, the bills would need paying anyway whether he was here or not. And he did get car finance for me (ex destroyed my credit record but that is another story) and pays for it. Am I being needy and insecure to want to feel attractive and desired? He is not one for talking about his feelings. He is not one for romantic gestures although he brings me flowers randomly because "he loves to see me smile". He helps around the house and is great with the kids. I just can't shake the feeling that he is "settling" for what he sees as a good thing. The passion just isn't there. I see posts with MNers complaining that their other halves are constantly at them for sex and that was my experience with all my exes (all 4 of them) and I just feel something is missing with my DH. Marriage was my idea. He wasn't keen as didn't think it necessary and had been married before and it didn't end well (she cheated) but they had married as teenagers because she was pregnant. The serious relationships he has had since sound very toxic and the most recent serious one ended when she cheated. That was 4 years before we met. He had several short term and casual hook ups between that and meeting me, some of them he described as torrid. I wanted to be married as I feel it is a commitment that shows that you are "it" for someone and it is the 2 of you against the world. I had a very unhappy marriage before but still believe in marriage, obviously. I now think he only did it to keep me quiet. It feels like I forced my desire for the commitment on to him and maybe he is now regretting it so is starting towards withdraw.

I have been crying all morning since he left. He asked me before he left for work if I was OK and I said I was fine. How do you tell your DH that you feel fat, ugly and frumpy because there does not seem to be a morsel of desire coming your way? I know if I bring it up he will say he has been tired cos of work and then he will instigate something but that will just be to shut me up. Or that is what it will feel like. I just don't know what to do. Do I stop trying to instigate it? Do I refuse his advances next time he makes them (I have never refused him because to me the sex is incredible and I am always in the mood)? Do I stop being accessible to him? At the minute my life revolves around his working hours. I haven't seen much of my friends and I make sure we have a kid free weekend at least once a month where we go somewhere. The last twice we have done this, there has been no sex. I feel like he only has sex when he needs to because he needs the physical release. I am now obsessing over his exes and whether he had better/constant sex with them (he did tell me a while back that he has never had sex so little in any relationship than he has in this one and when I questioned why he said because he is always tired but he has always worked long hours so that doesn't make sense).

In the cold light of day, if it was a friend of mine going through this I know I would be thinking she was being taken for a fool but I genuinely think he does love me and if he didn't want to be here he wouldn't be. Or is that naive? I do know I cannot continue living this half life with poor sleep, no sex and no self esteem.

OP posts:
Whadda · 05/08/2022 13:51

I have to say OP, reading your first post made me feel quite uneasy. You sound very transactional or something- like you’ve given him the ability to drop his third job, and now he doesn’t spend that time complimenting you or having sex with you and you’re upset about it.

In the back of my head, I’m thinking about how this thread would be if it was a man talking about his new, younger wife and how he was giving her money and then upset that she was too tired for the sex he expected.

I don’t know what advice to give you, but I’m glad to hear you have your assets protected.

ChloeKellyIsAnIcon · 05/08/2022 14:02

Well done OP. I'm glad to hear you're feeling a bit better and have some thoughts about how to take this forward. I hope things work out for you.

Crikeyalmighty · 05/08/2022 14:45

@Begoniasforever I was going to write a long post but you said it all.

OP- you sound a really nice person but are coming across as rather needy and this combined with his rather chaotic and long sounding work hours I don't think is helping. Maybe he loves you a lot but beyond the initial honeymoon period simply isn't that sexual on a very regular basis ( that would be me too) you have to decide whether that really really matters to you, I'm realistic enough to know it matters a lot to many people and is a dealbreaker.

I would take sex off the table and focus on getting some life back that doesn't involve him- I know this because I was your H and my H became needy , codependent and to be frank rather boring compared to when I met him and that in itself became a turn off

Begoniasforever · 05/08/2022 18:04

i will ask if he feels emasculated and ask if he would feel better if he contributed more to the household. I will also ask if he wants me to stop "mothering" him in the mornings but

I doubt he is going to say he’d love fo pay more and stop you doing everything for him, I’m sorry, if this is what I think it is,then that’s what he’s in it for it also doesn’t really solve your issue of him not wishing to have sex with you.

covid did change things op. But the pandemic is over and we are back to normal now and have been for some time.

Moonface123 · 05/08/2022 18:29

If you are having to go to the lengths you are, and he still isn''t interested, something isn' t right. Most men would bite your hand off. Of course he will tell you what you want to hear, he's not that stupid, but his actions say it all.
lt would be interesting to hear his ex' s versions of why they split, is he really working all those hours yet not much to show for it? Something doesn 't add up.

Quirrelsotherface · 05/08/2022 18:50

Sounds shit, OP. It struck me that you say that two of his ex-partners cheated. Could they have received similar treatment from him and that was the reason?

easylisten · 05/08/2022 19:05

This reply has been deleted

This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines.

H3ll00 · 05/08/2022 19:15

Me and my husband have this issue (we married within 6 months of meeting). We were at it all the time when we were dating now we're married I have a much lower sex drive - once a month is plenty for me. There are a number of issues causing this, which are slowly being resolved (we had a child, I’ve been diagnosed with a disability, my career has taken a hit so I can have more time with my daughter).

I know the lack of sex hurts him, as does my inability to say the right words to make him feel sexy. If I could change to make him happier I would but we haven’t figured out how to fix this yet.

Begoniasforever · 05/08/2022 20:28

This must have been a pandemic relationship. How long were you together befor you moved him in and started paying for him like this?

also the other thing that occurs to me is, could there be someone else?

Poppyblush · 06/08/2022 07:04

You’re a meal ticket. You rushed into this, despite having kids, and are paying the price. Don’t let him work for you as that would be stupid. Get him to pay rent. Why should your kids suffer because of him.

Endlesslypatient82 · 06/08/2022 08:16

Poppyblush · 06/08/2022 07:04

You’re a meal ticket. You rushed into this, despite having kids, and are paying the price. Don’t let him work for you as that would be stupid. Get him to pay rent. Why should your kids suffer because of him.

This

I doubt the OP will be back

badhappening · 06/08/2022 09:29

You go over and over how financially superior you are to him, and you think he should comply because you’ve ‘saved’ the lesser morsel.

You should never force/engineer/set up someone into having sex with you.

He will know exactly how desperately insecure you are and it is absolutely the biggest turn-off.

And of course people don’t want sex when they’re absolutely knackered.

I think you need to back right off before you end up having divorce number 2 on your hands, which you would have engineered all by yourself.

finalchance · 06/08/2022 21:19

Endlesslypatient82 · 06/08/2022 08:16

This

I doubt the OP will be back

Why wouldn't I be back!???

OP posts:
finalchance · 06/08/2022 21:21

Poppyblush · 06/08/2022 07:04

You’re a meal ticket. You rushed into this, despite having kids, and are paying the price. Don’t let him work for you as that would be stupid. Get him to pay rent. Why should your kids suffer because of him.

How are my kids suffering!?? As I said previously, the kids adore him and they live in a peaceful home where they can feel relaxed and can be themselves. Whatever is going on in terms of how I am feeling has nothing to do with my kids.

OP posts:
finalchance · 06/08/2022 21:23

badhappening · 06/08/2022 09:29

You go over and over how financially superior you are to him, and you think he should comply because you’ve ‘saved’ the lesser morsel.

You should never force/engineer/set up someone into having sex with you.

He will know exactly how desperately insecure you are and it is absolutely the biggest turn-off.

And of course people don’t want sex when they’re absolutely knackered.

I think you need to back right off before you end up having divorce number 2 on your hands, which you would have engineered all by yourself.

Thanks for your input but I simply explained that I earn more than him. If that makes you think I am financially superior to him then you have every right to your opinion but I don't agree I was simply stating a fact.

OP posts:
finalchance · 06/08/2022 21:37

Thanks to everyone for your comments. I have spoken at length with him and he is desperately unhappy in his job. He has been having some health worries that he hasn't shared as he didn't want to worry me. He has explained that he finds it difficult to talk about his feelings and said this is probably what led to his exes cheating - that and the fact that he worked such long hours. He has an appointment with the doctor next week and he is updating his CV and will look for a job he enjoys with "normal" working hours. We are going to sit down and look at our finances and agree a way forward in terms of paying for things. He does not feel emasculated and feels incredibly grateful to finally be with someone who can provide for herself and her kids without needing anything from anyone else. He was ridden like a horse by previous partners who didn't work or worked very little hours but expected him to provide for them and keep the household ticking over. This is the first relationship he has ever been in where he is able to "breathe" financially and he isn't used to it. He is used to being the breadwinner and has always done everything he can to make sure he didn't let anyone down. He has been used in the past and feels a great deal of relief that this won't happen with me. He can see how I could feel the way I did and agrees that we have to get better at communicating.

OP posts:
Jewel7 · 06/08/2022 22:15

I think communication is key. But I would expect a partner to meet me half way financially if we didn’t have our own children together.
i guess It’s up to you and you have your reasons for the financial decisions.
But it’s not your job to Support him. Maybe your job takes the stress out of that. But I think it’s also about how many hours you both work rather than salary itself.
Maybe it’s early days but finding your way and for him may help.

Begoniasforever · 06/08/2022 22:19

Oh I’m so sorry op, you must be gutted, , he pretty much told you to your face you’re his meal ticket? he’s grateful you don’t want money from him and doesn’t want you to stop paying for him? What will you do about it?💐

wellhelloitsme · 06/08/2022 22:49

He has been used in the past and feels a great deal of relief that this won't happen with me.

I bet he does...

Scorpio8 · 07/08/2022 04:32

@finalchance

I felt like this with my son's father. I would dress up sexy but he was tired from work. I took it at the time as rejection. There were issues with money and looking back maybe I was a bit selfish wanting sex. When he was working wanted to put a roof over our heads. He was emotionally abusive at times too.
I am trying to set a picture but no excuse for me to cheat in our relationship. I think doing what I did maybe it was a way out of not being happy. I felt I tried and tried.
Do you think he cheating because of the lack of sex with you?
I do think you need to sit him down and talk to him about how your feeling.
I would wonder the same thing as you if my OH was like this.
You got to find time in your relationship for each other.
That's really important because when my OH now use to work I would say when we spending time together. My OH use to work away didn't like it because felt lack of sex from me would make him drift away from me.
I do think go out with friends, family just have fun. But also set time aside for him and he needs to do same for you.

Scorpio8 · 07/08/2022 04:42

@finalchance

I just saw your recent post after I posted my last reply.
You done the right thing by talking to him. He does seem stressed but hopefully he will find a job much better for him.

I hope things get better from today. I hope he doesn't now feel pressured for sex and he just understands how you feel. He might feel you will cheat and just put extra pressure on himself.
Just reassure him that's not going to happen.
Keep telling him how you feel. If you do feel spark gone over time then maybe think how to get it back or decide that's it.
I hope you both get closer and he able to open up more to you.
Wish you both all the best.

Endlesslypatient82 · 07/08/2022 07:46

He was ridden like a horse by previous partners who didn't work or worked very little hours but expected him to provide for them and keep the household ticking over.

those pesky ex girlfriends / ex wives. Lazy Gold diggers the lot of them!

KettrickenSmiled · 07/08/2022 09:29

Endlesslypatient82 · 07/08/2022 07:46

He was ridden like a horse by previous partners who didn't work or worked very little hours but expected him to provide for them and keep the household ticking over.

those pesky ex girlfriends / ex wives. Lazy Gold diggers the lot of them!

Well ... quite.

OP - beware the man who has a history of "crazy exes."
And be especially wary of the man who agrees to have children, provide for them financially while his partner works as a SAHM, then describes those partners (note the plural) as predatory gold-diggers.

Also beware the man who tells you who he is.
Make sure you are listening.
Because this one has told you that both (all?) his exes cheated on him becuase he's not good at talking about his feelings. This has the ripe smell of bullshit - but even it it was true, it's not very appealling is it? Don't fall into the trap of imagining that YOU are the one woman who will finally fix him.

Justanotherlittlename · 06/10/2022 15:23

How are things going @finalchance x

FluffyFlower · 22/11/2022 22:27

Are you trying too hard OP? Don't force the issue. It has only been less than 3 weeks, it may be just a temporary lull. You talked to him, good. Now stop bribing it up over and over, let the vibe get back naturally. The more you focus on this, the worse it seems. He doesn't sound too bad to me.. It is unrealistic to expect sex every day in most marriages.