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She didn’t even come outside

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Ncfreely · 17/07/2022 21:09

I moved overseas with my family 18 months ago to a far away place. We had originally moved back to the UK from this place a few years ago when my babies were very little, so I had made several new friendships on my return to the U.K. at playgroups primary school etc. One of those became a very close friend and I saw her often, had her kids round, picked each other’s kids up from school, barbecues together etc.

When we moved back again I was devastated for ages because I missed her company so much but we’ve kept in touch loads and always talked about when we get to meet up again- she knows I’m planning to visit at least yearly. A few weeks ago she said she would be emotional when she saw me.

In the days leading up to us coming we texted about plans, we had a day out booked in but nothing else.

I mentioned the first weekend we arrived I could pop round for a cup of tea after she finishes work and I wanted to see her as much as possible. She works from home doing beauty type stuff and finished at 7pm and 3pm on the sat/sun respectively. She was also going off on holiday but not until two weeks after we arrived back. She didn’t reply to these messages which I thought was odd and I didn’t hear from when I first arrived back. So on the Sunday I popped by in the afternoon and knocked on the front window (we often did this and she never minded so that’s not an issue) to surprise her.

Her reaction was as if the postman had turned up with a parcel. She didn’t even come to the open window let alone come out to hug me. I was so wounded I said I couldn’t stay I just had to see her and scuttled off. I felt absolutely devastated and confused tbh. As I walked away I heard her say “right, dinner” as if I was just some mere interruption to her dinner prep.

Didnt text her again then bumped into her at the park and I just acted as normal. We then went on the day out we had planned although she changed it to a walk due to covid (as she had to get a pcr test for the holiday). I didn’t hear from her again despite us saying we would try and get together - I left the ball in her court - until the night before her holiday when she text saying hope we had a safe trip back and sorry she couldn’t meet up again she had been so busy fitting clients in before her (6day) holiday.

I am crying as I write this which makes me sound pathetic but we were such good friends and I am totally blindsided. I know from experience that when you come back to visit people are often busy and life goes on but it really wasn’t that kind of friendship. We were close and others have commented how weird it is. I have racked my brains - was it due to covid? Her DH is vulnerable and she has always been wary but she went swimming at the local pools and we could easily have sat outside for a cup of tea. She was concerned about the pcr for holiday. She goes on and on about how busy she is with work but I fail to see how you couldn’t spare 15 minutes for a cuppa with your old mate a few times - I always used to pop by in between clients etc. My DH reckons she has become even more negative and alienated herself, after talking to her. She was definitely a one for bad mouthing others but other people have said she never said a bad word against me. Has she just decided it’s not worth the effort? Why would she be in touch so much 😭

Thank you for reading my essay. I’ve tried not to drip feed. Any advice welcome. Please be gentle - it has been an absolute emotional rollercoaster.

OP posts:
BadNomad · 18/07/2022 20:08

I do think you moving away changed things for her. I don't think the people left behind feel the same way in these situations. You can't expect the same level of friendship. So I do think you turning up uninvited like that annoyed her. You may have done it in the past, but that was years ago. You asked/offered to pop around, she didn't say yes, but you did anyway. If she doesn't feel the same way about the friendship any more, she might have found that quite invasive.

RiceRiceBaby16 · 19/07/2022 09:41

I have a friend who we were so close with, weekends away together, my partner taught her kids an extracurricular activity privately in our home, all of a sudden she just sort of disappeared, stopped messaging me, short answers, and if we did talk it would always be- let's meet soon, which would never happen and she would never make a solid plan with me. There were no changes or anything distinctive that I would say caused this. We don't have any mutual friends either that might have said something. I just accepted it as you can't force anything as sad as it is. Better people will come In your life

Gotmynewshoes · 19/07/2022 11:27

@Ncfreely you really aren't paying attention to the posters who have said that you've hurt her by leaving.

She is protecting herself because you hurt her. You only want to hear that you are the victim, but you aren't. You're the one who's caused the pain. Your life, you can live wherever you like, but your choices caused this.

TheFridayRabbit · 19/07/2022 12:29

Gotmynewshoes · 19/07/2022 11:27

@Ncfreely you really aren't paying attention to the posters who have said that you've hurt her by leaving.

She is protecting herself because you hurt her. You only want to hear that you are the victim, but you aren't. You're the one who's caused the pain. Your life, you can live wherever you like, but your choices caused this.

My god that is victim blaming at its finest 🙈

MayThe4th · 19/07/2022 12:41

Gotmynewshoes · 19/07/2022 11:27

@Ncfreely you really aren't paying attention to the posters who have said that you've hurt her by leaving.

She is protecting herself because you hurt her. You only want to hear that you are the victim, but you aren't. You're the one who's caused the pain. Your life, you can live wherever you like, but your choices caused this.

Are you the friend per chance?

Seriously, the OP moved house which she is perfectly entitled to do. The friend isn’t a victim here. People have lives of their own, the OP didn’t owe her anything. But the friend has form for badmouthing people, so it’s hardly surprising that she then turned on the OP. If the OP had stayed where she was it would probably have happened sooner or later anyway.

butterflied · 19/07/2022 13:01

There is some liberal use of 'victim' going on here.

SirChenjins · 19/07/2022 13:20

I can well understand how hurtful that must have been OP - you must have really been looking forward to seeing her again and I imagine you thought she'd feel the same given that you'd been texting each other about the visit had been keeping in close contact.

As always, there are a few posters projecting their own behaviour and making 2 plus 2 equal 5. Ultimately, no-one knows but her, and you'll drive yourself mad trying to second guess her behaviour. If you feel able to, and you think you'd get an honest reply from her then the best thing to do would be to ask her if you've done anything to upset her.

It could be any number of things - as others have said, she may be feeling a bit emotional about you coming back and doesn't want to go through the upset of 'losing you' again, or she's moved on and you coming back isn't as exciting for her as her texts would have led you to believe, or she may be very envious of your new life abroad and is maybe not ready to hear about the wonderful, exciting things you've been doing.

I hope you're feeling a bit better today - it will take a while. Try and focus on doing some nice things while you're back in the UK which will take your mind off this a bit.

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