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Dealing with a difficult mother (long and dull but need to vent and clarify my thoughts)

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MuffinMclay · 15/01/2008 10:36

My mother phoned last night to harangue me about what a bad daughter I am, and this has really upset me. I am 36 weeks+ pg, tired, ad hormonal, so may have got things out of perspective.

Background to this: I have always had a 'difficult' relationship with my mother, to put it mildly. Without going into all the details I was emotionally abused as a child, and it took a long time (and a lot of counselling a few years ago) to deal with a lot of the stuff I'd experienced as a child. We speak once a week or so on the phone (they don't live near), and it is fine so long as topics are kept neutral. I only stay in touch for my dad's sake (he is reasonably normal but very put upon). My mother is a very loud, over-bearing, domineering sort of person, who is used to getting her own way on things, and nobody can ever be bothered to argue with her.

Anyhow, last night she called and started with a rant about how I never return her calls despite her leaving messages on my answerphone ... except there hadn't been any messages. We'd last spoken about 10 days before that when she had ranted about SIL coming to take care of ds when I give birth (SIL 45 mins away max, parents 7 hours drive away at their speed). Ds spends a lot of time with SIL and solts easily into family life there. In contrast, he finds my mother's visits unsettling and screams a lot when she visits. There were comments about her being ds's 'proper' family, not SIL, and this arrangement not being 'right'.

Then she said they'd like to come and stay soon. I suggested it might be a good idea to wait until after the baby came now. The last thing I need now, with high bp, is the stress of a parental visit. They won't do short visits (min 4 nights) and expect me to run around after them (as when they came to 'help' after ds was born). My mother is also very noisy and a night owl, and I get next to no sleep when she stays.

This did not go down well. She put on a sad, quiet voice and told me I was a dreadful daughter, shutting out my proper family, keeping them away from their grandson, etc. I didn't say much - I'm hopeless at saying the right thing in confrontational situations - just that I recognised that of course they wanted to see ds, but it would be so much easier if they could wait a few weeks. Dh and I had planned to arrange rail travel and perhaps an overnight stay in a hotel for them after ds2 was born (saving them the stress of driving which they hate, and getting rid of them promptly)

Aside from upsetting me now, I am worried that she will ruin the time after ds2 is born. We had such an awful time when ds1 was born (ill in scbu, moving house at the same time, parents insisting on staying and causing extra stress). I'm not planning on being pg again, and would dearly love to bring this baby home just with dh and ds and enjoy a bit of family time together. She cast a dampener on my wedding with similar behaviour (does not like dh or his family at all).

Sorry, very long and dull. Needed to get it out of my system.

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indiechick · 15/01/2008 10:40

MuffinMc - are you sure you're not my secret sister? My mother is exactly like this, also staying at least 4 days, criticising my choices etc.
I've decided this time (due in May) that I'm not actually going to tell her that I've given birth until at least a week later. Last time she turned up day after I gave birth (by emergency c-section) and made life hell. Ditto sister. They have no idea how to behave normally. It's difficult to know what to suggest, just wanted you to know you're not alone.

bellabelly · 15/01/2008 10:40

You haven't got things out of perspective. You are putting yourself and your family first. Easier said than done but try not to let her ranting stress you out - it's not what you need at the mo. Sounds like you've had a LOT to deal with from your mum - she's very lucky you are still making an effort to speak to her at all imho!

Susiemj · 15/01/2008 10:50

Muffin - my mum is different but just as difficult. she invited herself to stay after the birth of dd1 (two weeks ago today). She styed 5 days and almost stayed another two. I was so unhappy when I thought she might stay that I cried. Was desperate to be alone with my baby and DH. Fortunately she got in a stro p and stormed out without saying goodbye at 8.30 am yesterday

all I have to do now is get up the gall to 'apologise' to her over the phone [a regular occurrence - apologising for thigs ther eis no need to apologise for.]

SORRY! I'm not meaning to hijack. What i was thinking is that if she comes now, before the baby, she may give you at least a couple of weeks after the baby. Is this a possible plan?

lucyellensmum · 15/01/2008 10:55

Put your foot down, tell her she can come to visit when the baby is a month old. That way you get to settle. Of course, they can come for an afternoon, but no more. If she doesnt like it TOUGH!! What is impoortant here is your family and your happiness.

Get it straight and don't feel guilty about it - i read someone post the other day a mantra "i am not responsible for my mothers happiness". If she can't wind her neck in and act like an adult, it is quite frankly her loss.

Congratulations on the baby btw x

peggotty · 15/01/2008 10:57

I don't think you have got things out of perspective actually! You've got every right to feel aggrieved by your mother's attitude. It is very easy to say but please concentrate on yourself. She is obviously a control freak trying to muscle in on time that should be yours (& your dh and kids) - all the crap about being hurt and the arrangement you have made for your ds while having the baby is just her trying to control the situation and make herself the focus - what an immature, selfish woman! I think you should do as indiechick suggests and not tell her about the birth until a good few days or a week afterwards, and then as you say, arranging hotel and rail travel etc for them so you have the say on how long they are there. Good luck, you don't deserve this treatment from someone who is supposed to put you first!

Prufrock · 15/01/2008 11:02

Have you read toxic parents by Susan Forward. You've probably already done all the first part (realising the abuse, not taking the blame for it etc) trough your counselling, but she also has some very good practical advice for dealing with toxic parents afterwards. Lots of non defensive position statements "I'm sorry you feel that way Mum, but we aren't having visitors in the first month" that really help in those confrontational situations

constancereader · 15/01/2008 11:09

Knowing that you are not responsible for your mother's happiness is essential. Think about it - whatever you do she is not happy, so you might as well do what pleases you. She will kick off anyway. So don't waste time trying to please her.

I know this is easier said than done, but remember that you deserve to be happy too.

Best of luck.

Sakura · 15/01/2008 11:18

Hi Muffin, http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/7/440839 this thread will help. All of the women on there have been through this, or something similar with their mothers, including me. ACtually one lady on there is about 36 weeks pregnant like you.
Most of us found that the only solution to keep sane and protect our families was to cut our mothers out of our lives. WE are at different points in the process, but believe me, we know what you are going through and how terrifying your mother feels to you, and that the thought of standing up for yourself might be too much to cope with. Please post on there, and we can help you through this.

Sakura · 15/01/2008 11:19

sorry here

smithfield · 15/01/2008 11:33

Hello muffin-
Sakura just posted link to thread. And you need to join it...please do, you can keep me company. I could have written this post myself.
I am pg 36 weeks same as you. My ds was born o/seas. My mum came two weeks before birth and stayed (wait for it) SIX WEEKS after. She kept extending her trip.
My mother sounds EXACTLY like yours. Had DH cooking two meals (1 for us, 1 for her) as she never wanted what we wanted.
She bullied me the whole time and 'insisted' she be in the same room for the birth. I tried to resist this which caused a massive row and sent me into labour. And NO she didnt even relent at this point still adamant on being present at the birth! I wont go on. You have the same mum as me. You know the score.
PLEASE DO NOT LET THIS WOMAN NEAR YOU. You deserve to have the birth 'you' want this time and to have that 'precious' time alone to bond with your baby. I feel upset even writing this because I know I can never get that time back I should have had with my ds. But Im determined this time will be different and so should you be. Dont let her manipulate you with guilt. (((((hug))))

smithfield · 15/01/2008 11:36

In fact -'Thankyou for posting this' because, some of her recent antics in a bid to apply guilt 'almost' had me swayed. I needed to read your post. Thanks for sharing!
Looking forward to seeing you on the other thread!

MuffinMclay · 15/01/2008 12:17

Thank you everyone, so much. I can't tell you how much it has helped just having people confirm that she is being out of order.

Sakura, Smithfield - thank you for the link. I had seen the thread title and it really struck a chord, but something stopped me reading it or contributing. I think I imagined that it would upset me too much. I am going to read it this evening and join in then (so much easier when ds is in bed - can't plonk him in front of cbeebies all day).

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