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How do you leave someone when you know they'll destroy you and you haven't got the strength for it?

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Diddlypiddly · 17/06/2022 12:43

I'm a boiled frog. I just had a look at my MN posting history, and for 7 years I've intermittently posted in Relationships about my husband. I'm so annoyed with myself. Seven years ago, I wasn't going through perimenopause, I didn't have long covid: I would have been mentally and physically strong enough to leave him. Now, well it's taken me about a month just to post this, just because I couldn't raise the energy to type it out. I can barely get through a day's work, I'm that exhausted.

For the fist several years of our relationship, I was totally love bombed. He thought I was amazing, he agreed with all my values, and he loved my positivity and bubbly personality. Then drip, drip, drip over the years, he very gradually turned negative, irritable, a terrible communicator, fussy, a perpetual victim, blames everyone and anyone apart from himself for all of his life's ills, a gaslighter, a stonewaller, a deflector, defensive, passive aggressive, and he trusts no one: he assumes everyone is a liar. He firmly believes he is superior to everyone. He has no friends, is no contact with his family, rarely leaves the house.

A couple of months ago, I had surgery and I had a tough recovery. Instead of treating me with compassion and kindness, he chose that period to fall out with me. He looked after me, but it was all done with irritability and much tutting and sighing. And then a few days after my surgery, he verbally attacked me with this huge list of 20 years worth of things I'd done wrong - honestly he was raking things up from 20 years ago that I couldn't even remember - and how I was responsible for him having no hobbies or friends. (I'm not.) The bile and contempt and hate for me all came out: most of it lies and twisted and manipulated to suit this narrative he had convinced himself of. I was appalled, and far too ill and exhausted to respond or deal with it. He then gave me the silent treatment for several days, then suddenly he was all 'I love you; I can't imagine life without you'.

He has form for having to be right about everything, even the most ridiculous and innocuous things: he has to come out on top. He's the most defensive person I've ever met - ever - and he can't stand being asked to do anything, e.g. if I ask him to take my coat upstairs when he's going upstairs anyway with his hands empty, he irritably refuses because, well I don't know why actually, I think he feels like he's deferring to me if he agrees to a small favour?? He will go massively out of his way to prove someone else wrong. He takes notes on the neighbours and on his colleagues, in order that he can use them as 'evidence' when they do something 'wrong' so he can then demonstrate his superiority. He even did it when a neighbour accidentally took our wheelie bin. He will not accept that people are human and make mistakes: he expects absolute perfection, and that perfection has to match his own values.

And this is exactly why I know he would move heaven and earth to destroy me if I did the ultimate betrayal and told him I wanted a divorce. He would make my life as hellish as he possibly could. He would block me every step of the way, dispute every little thing, tie us up in legal knots. He absolutely would have to come out top, knowing that he's destroyed me and he's won. If he could, he'd leave us with no money at all: he'd happily lose out on £thousands: it would be worth it as long as he knows that he's won and I've lost.

So I've spent the last 7 years coming up with excuses for myself not to leave. Obviously he's not a twat all the time. He's lovely more than he's horrible: supportive, loyal, funny, great company, blah blah blah. I'm not a total idiot: I haven't stayed this long with someone who's awful 100% of the time. And it's all been reeeallly gradual onset, so I almost haven't noticed it. And of course a lot of the time, he has very successfully made me think I've got things wrong: he's exceptionally talented at denial and twisting things. So I can persuade myself, well he's so lovely most of the time. Or, make myriad excuses to myself that I wouldn't get a mortgage on my own (I'm newly self employed), or that it's too difficult to work out care for our dogs who have separation anxiety, and so on and so on.

I know I need to leave. But it seems momentous. Not just knowing that he'll probably send me over the edge mentally (I still feel emotionally battered from how awful he was after my surgery), but also the sheer amount of untangling of our lives that's needed. Mortgage, house, accounts, shared subscriptions, belongings, cars, dogs. (No children, thankfully, makes things a bit less daunting). Knowing that there will be a period where I've told him I want to leave and having to stay in the house with him while we work out how to separate: he'll make my left hell.

Please, has anyone else left someone like this? How did you do it??

OP posts:
Staynow · 18/06/2022 19:00

Narcissistic personality disorder OP, read up, I'd say he's ticking pretty much every box. I recognise everything you say. Get your ducks in a row and get out of there.

tinyt137 · 18/06/2022 19:14

Write a letter of advice from the person you were 20 years ago to yourself now. You have the strength. You can do this. You, 20 years ago wouldn't put up with this. Pack your bags and leave X

goody2shooz · 18/06/2022 21:02

Not really as simple as ‘pack your bags and leave’, though we all wish it was. Op has to get herself somewhere to stay first. She’s had great advice, eg see a solicitor on the quiet to get proper legal advice which is in itself empowering and will help to overcome at least some of her fears. @Diddlypiddly - hope you’ve booked your solicitor appointment this week and good luck on your new journey!

boronia · 19/06/2022 01:00

A woman I worked with was in your situation.
She saved some money, rented a one bedroom flat, slowly and unobtrusively started moving a few things into it. Acquired second hand furniture. At her own pace started working through the paperwork side.
It took about 5 months.
One day when he was out she filled her car with the rest of her clothes ( he was out) and was finishing up as he returned. She quietly told him she was going for good and would be in touch about selling the house and divorcing. He thought she was bluffing, started arguing and was still carrying on as she drove off.
He was an absolute arsehole during the divorce but she's a new woman, happy and free.

TooBigForMyBoots · 21/06/2022 12:33

Nice one @Diddlypiddly.😊

TwoPaws · 21/06/2022 16:34

Sorting out house division and subscriptions?

Remember, some people in your situation are facing homelessness, with nothing to their name, maybe less than nothing. You have options so try and see the positives?. See a solicitor first, preferably 2 or 3 to find the best.

confousled · 21/06/2022 19:34

N/c to reply to this.

This post he thrown me a bit I have to admit. I am in a very similar situation but seeing someone else write it out, makes it hit home.

I am in the same boat. Though not married but there are children involved, and as you say lots of untangling would be needed. And as your situation it's not horrible all the time.

The being right, wanting utter perfection, having to come out on top, making me put it all on me, making comments about things that come up re values that are quite different to mine.

He also did all the love bombing to begin with, we were perfect, had so much in common, the same etc, and this has crept up on me also.

I feel stuck as do you. So I don't have any good advice, but I do have a hand to hold to say you aren't alone. You aren't the only one, and you aren't stupid. I am not stupid either. If people in my real life knew they would be so shocked.

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