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I think I'm to blame TW Pregnancy loss

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Este67 · 03/06/2022 09:01

I found out I was pregnant at the start of last month. It was due to a very brief relationship and unplanned but I've genuinely never been so happy. I felt like I'd won the lottery. I was doing everything I could to have a successful pregnancy, I stopped all alcohol straight away, started foelic acid, I was washing all veg, cooking chicken and eggs to within an inch of their life. I had some spotting/weird yellow discharge so had an early scan at 6 week + 6. The baby had a heartbeat and was measuring a few days bigger. The DR told me I was "one of the lucky ones," and said there was very little chance of anything going wrong now there was a heartbeat. A week later I had some incredibly light spotting on a swab I took to find out why I was having the weird discharge. I was booked for another scan and they couldn't find a heartbeat. I don't understand how this could happen and I'm convinced it was my fault. In my quest to find out what went wrong I have just realised that my fridge was set at 0, which means it was effectively off this whole time. I have eaten chicken breast and homemade mackerel pate from that fridge, (listeria? toxoplasmosis?) could this have been it? Could it have been the yellow discharge? Infection? I called the doctor so many times about it and was fobbed off, sent from pillar to post until eventually they told me to pick up a swab kit, almost 2 weeks after I'd initially asked. Should I have been more proactive? I just know it was my fault, how can a healthy foetus just stop growing for no reason in less than a week? I've never experienced pain like this. I'm in my mid 30s, this might have been my last chance. I'm completely broken by this. Has anyone had a similar experience and know how I can get answers?

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EarringsandLipstick · 03/06/2022 12:04

I'm so sorry OP. Echoing everyone else: it was not your fault. Sadly, there is almost nothing we can do to prevent early MC, it is almost always out of our hands.

Regarding the fridge, you possibly did have a dodgy tummy from food not being at its best. However, it doesn't sound like you really had food poisoning or anything very serious; you would have been far, far sicker. Especially with the chicken.

While the fridge wasn't working optimally, I would say your food was broadly fine.

Additionally, this would not have affected the MC.

Take care OP. I hope there is another path for you in terms of having a baby 💐

EarringsandLipstick · 03/06/2022 12:07

I may ask my hospital to do the same re. the placenta as it doesn't look like it's going to happen on its own.

How many weeks were you? If I'm reading correctly, you were still under 10 weeks? The placenta doesn't start to function until 12/13 weeks.

Once you are bleeding, you will be passing what is there. If it is early, it's unlikely any further intervention will be needed.

Este67 · 03/06/2022 12:46

@EarringsandLipstick I was just under 8 weeks. I haven't had any bleeding. The only clue anything was wrong was when I did a vaginal swab and there was a very very small dot of blood in the middle of the cotton bud. I could have missed it, it was that small. Since then I've had nothing apart from the same yellow discharge I've had all the way through. I still have heartburn, sore breasts, fatigue headache and pelvic cramps like I did when everything was fine. I would honestly have never known there was a problem if not for the small amount of spotting. I even took a pregnancy test on the day of the scan and it came up with a very strong line straight away, I believe it would be referred to as a dye stealer. The hospital told me if nature doesn't take its course by next week to come back and they can give me a pill or arrange surgical management.

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EarringsandLipstick · 03/06/2022 13:41

Sorry @Este67 I didn't realise you hadn't had any bleeding.

They will likely recommend an ERPC (used to be called a D&C) if there isn't a natural bleed. You also take tablets ahead is this to open the womb. It's done under anaesthetic.

Are you being treated for the discharge?

Este67 · 03/06/2022 14:02

@EarringsandLipstick After harassing my GP about it for nigh on 3 weeks they finally arranged a swab kit which I returned the day after finding out there was no heartbeat. I'm really hoping it comes back showing nothing because if it turns out it was BV or something else linked to miscarriage I will lose my mind. I have seen many people on Mumsnet saying they had the same discharge due to Pregnacare tablets so I'm hoping it was that, as it didn't have any odour.

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LooseGoose22 · 03/06/2022 17:49

I've given up on getting married/finding someone

You're 34?!

Perhaps old is not the best or only place to meet someone.

What sort of person would you like to meet.. what are they likely to be doing where you might encounter them?

You are very young to have given up on meeting a partner.

You are also young to be talking about last chances to have a child.

Having unprotected sex with men you've met off dating sites without an Std check is not a great idea.

Also no offence but if I'm right in thinking you conceived from your first time having sex with a man you met off old, who is now not on the scene (you said you have no partner) , are you making it clear that you're not using contraception and risking pregnancy... because if you not, I don't actually think that's v fair on the man.

Whether he pays CM or not, its a huge thing fathering a child.

LooseGoose22 · 03/06/2022 17:56

To reiterate what other posters hsve said, it's 1 in 4 sadly, its very common.

It's very unlikely anything you did or didn't do caused it.

And it doesn't mean you can't have a successful pregnancy.

theufointhe · 03/06/2022 18:10

sorry for your loss. did your date know you aren’t on the pill/ have a coil/ whatever?

Este67 · 03/06/2022 18:14

@LooseGoose22 "Having unprotected sex with men you've met off dating sites without an Std check is not a great idea." Anyone with half a brain knows this. We both showed eachother our std checks before becoming intimate and I in no way set out to trap him into a pregnancy as you are clumsily implying so don't you dare make assumptions or judgements about me. What kind of nasty person reads the statements I've made and thinks the best thing to do is to give them a patronising and judgemental lecture on safe sex and "being fair to men" as if I'm some tempting vixen and he has no agency or understanding of how contraception works?! Honestly, piss off.

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Este67 · 03/06/2022 18:16

@theufointhe a) what is the relevance of that question given what's happened? and b) at which point did I say I didn't use contraception?

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ChagSameachDoreen · 03/06/2022 18:25

Please don't blame yourself.

It isn't the actual meat and eggs that are a problem; it's the fact that they might cause food poisoning which could then dehydrate you.

The baby just wasn't viable. It wasn't your fault.

Sending love x

theufointhe · 03/06/2022 18:27

Este67 · 03/06/2022 18:16

@theufointhe a) what is the relevance of that question given what's happened? and b) at which point did I say I didn't use contraception?

well it’s relevant because you got pregnant. i just wondered if you planned it and if he was aware

ChagSameachDoreen · 03/06/2022 18:29

Oh FFS, will posters please piss off with the judgmental questions. That isn't what the OP wants to discuss.

Este67 · 03/06/2022 18:32

@theufointhe Did I plan to get pregnant with someone I had only just started dating? No.
Is he an adult with a brain and understanding of how contraception works and how babies are made?
Yes.
Please refer to my previous response to the other insensitive and nasty poster who has tried to imply I attempted to trap a poor unsuspecting man into a pregnancy he didn't want.

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pompomseverywhere · 03/06/2022 18:33

It's definitely not your fault at all. I wish we had all the answers but it's not possible.

Here's a good book that may help.

I think I'm to blame TW Pregnancy loss
Este67 · 03/06/2022 18:34

@ChagSameachDoreen Thanks. The hilarious thing is he's actually been lovely and asked me how I am and whether there is anything he can do.

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Este67 · 03/06/2022 18:35

@pompomseverywhere thank you, that's really helpful x

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ittakes2 · 03/06/2022 18:42

I am very sorry for your kids. I am also sorry as your doctor was way out of line saying due to heart beat at 6 weeks all will be ok. You’ll remember people usually wait until 12 weeks to check pregnancy viable and then tell people - so no idea why your doctor said all good at 6 weeks. Hope you are ok. Unfort these things just happen.

ittakes2 · 03/06/2022 18:43

Gosh so sorry ‘loss’ was turned into kids!! Terrible change from my phone!!

Frenchyfrog · 03/06/2022 18:48

Absolutely not your fault. I’ve had quite a few miscarriages at various stages. Saw a heartbeat for two of them. The third was tested and had chromosomal abnormalities. It is nothing you have done, it was just not viable. You certainly have time, I have gone on to have a very healthy pregnancy and baby. I’m so sorry for what has happened, but please don’t blame yourself.

Este67 · 03/06/2022 18:53

Thank you to everyone who has shared their experiences and given words of comfort, it has helped. I think it will take a while to make my peace with it. If anyone has experience of this and wouldn't feel triggered sharing, I would be grateful if anyone could give me their opinion on whether I should continue to wait for the actual miscarriage or return to the hospital for surgical management? I'm finding it quite distressing that I still feel pregnant but at the same time I suspect I will be quite upset after the surgery when I no longer feel that way if that makes sense. I'm guessing there is no way I won't be upset but I just wondered if anyone could give me any insight into which would be less hard on me?

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Frenchyfrog · 03/06/2022 19:13

Este67 · 03/06/2022 18:53

Thank you to everyone who has shared their experiences and given words of comfort, it has helped. I think it will take a while to make my peace with it. If anyone has experience of this and wouldn't feel triggered sharing, I would be grateful if anyone could give me their opinion on whether I should continue to wait for the actual miscarriage or return to the hospital for surgical management? I'm finding it quite distressing that I still feel pregnant but at the same time I suspect I will be quite upset after the surgery when I no longer feel that way if that makes sense. I'm guessing there is no way I won't be upset but I just wondered if anyone could give me any insight into which would be less hard on me?

Having experienced both waiting and surgical management I would definitely opt for the latter. You know when it will be, you can prepare, it’s painless (I couldn’t wait to be put to sleep), and I felt confident that the miscarriage would then be complete. When nature took its course, I happened to be on my own and it was very painful and I felt sick and there was lots of blood. From then I always requested management and if I’m ever unlucky enough for it to happen again I would do the same hands down.

PrinnyPree · 03/06/2022 19:34

Sending big hugs OP but please understand it wasn't your fault. Also I didn't even start trying to conceive until I was 36, I also lost my first quite early (although no heartbeat just a test and confirmation I'd lost it at the hospital) and had a healthy pregnancy by the time I was 37 so please don't think you are running out of time. x

However I know the feeling of blaming yourself, I was really stressed with sorting my recently deceased DFs affairs and also got into an argument with my slightly intimidating next door neighbour and wondered if the stress of it all had caused it. X

Kindofcrunchy · 03/06/2022 20:23

Not really sure why people think they can't have healthy pregnancies on a vegan diet, as long as you take a b12 supplement and you're not constantly eating junk you should be fine.

QforCucumber · 03/06/2022 20:37

This was not your fault. Or anyone else’s.

though I still wonder if I could have changed my missed miscarriage and the fact that another pregnancy I had to end becuase the baby was incompatible with life: I still wonder sometimes what I did.

but I did absolutely nothing different to my 2 successful pregnancies, it really really really is just one of those things.

im so sorry