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Might have scared a guy away

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StellaStreet · 31/05/2022 23:57

Hi

I'm F30, he's M48 or so. We've known each other for a few years but have got close over the past 12 months, but I think I might have messed things up. I don't know if I should have bothered showing interest in the first place. Sorry for such a long post, but this guy is so unusual and different to other men that he needs describing as well as I can.

We know each other at the gym. He looks fantastic, a lot like Daniel Craig getting out of the sea in Casino Royale – I've seen him chopping the trees in his garden in just his shorts. I also notice that he's stronger than most of the guys much younger than him at the gym. He dresses well, he's well-groomed, nothing out of place. Me, I look after myself, I also exercise a lot, and am pretty athletic and toned. He carries himself well, good posture, and I notice that he's dominant among others at the gym – the other guys move out of his way as he walks around the kit, he has that physical presence. He talks to a few people there, and I see that he's very charming with people and they seem to like him. To look at him, you'd think he was getting dozens of women into his bed, but...

He doesn't socialise, as in at all. He told me that he has no family, never married, no brothers or sisters, his parents died years ago, and doesn't do anything with his relatives. He says that he'd tried to create a relationship with them after his folks had died, but he and they found that they had so little in common that there was hardly any point, so neither he nor they keep in touch. He also won't talk about his parents or his childhood – he'll quickly change the subject with little fuss to something else.

As far as friends go, he says he has them, but I've never seen him with any on his FB feed. He does sometimes have comments on his posts, but it's very rare, and they're almost always from the same few women. Men hardly ever comment on anything he writes. He goes everywhere alone, except for protests, where he usually has the same women around him, and they all look pretty happy. He protests for a cause he's passionate about – and writes about on FB – and it's something I'm also in full agreement with. It's mostly how we got to know each other and bonded.

I see from his FB that he does visit places, and he likes history and the arts, but again, he goes everywhere alone. He took himself off for the day on his birthday last year, and I was a bit shocked when he told me that no, he hadn't gone with anyone, and that celebrating his birthday with people wasn't something he did. He wasn't upset by it, just said it as a matter of fact.

He also doesn't like sport, at least he doesn't write about it on FB and he's never spoken to me about it. He reads a hell of a lot – politics, history, philosophy, psychology, economics, artificial intelligence – and writes short reviews about them on FB.

I've never seen him in any of the pubs or bars in our small town. Nobody we both know has told me they've seen him anywhere, but I see he sometimes posts that he's sometimes at different pubs in the afternoon. So, he has no social life.

We did have great chemistry, and I love being around him. I'd tease him quite harshly, and he'd do the same back. We both know there's no malice in it. We'd also flirt quite a bit. I think he might have asked me out when he said he wanted to show me some mansion and gardens nearby – it might be where he works as a researcher. He told me he dealt a lot with various professors and other people. I'd told him I'd like to, but when he tried to arrange a date, I had to tell him it wasn't convenient. I brought it up again a few weeks later, and again he tried to arrange, but I couldn't then either. He's not mentioned it since. He's gone quiet on me after that.

I did check out his car in the gym car park to see if he had a child seat in it, or women's clothing. I think he might have seen me do it as he was on one of the treadmills overlooking it at the time. I also used to live near him, so I could see when he was at home or not, and I'd told him I knew when he was in, and how often I could see he was away.

There are so few single men like him who have the same beliefs as we do on our cause, and ever less men who look as good as him. He's got a good sense of humour, and I notice that he laughs at things he's read on his phone, so he enjoys reading comments and responding to them. But he doesn't give me much. It's as if there's a wall. He wrote some time ago that he wishes people would realise that as far as people are concerned, he's seen and heard it all repeatedly – he also mentions stoicism. He has that expression of a half smile when people talk to him, and nothing seems to faze him.

I'd like to do something with him, but there's so little going on with him, and apart from our mutual cause, we've very little in common. It's as though he's got so little to give to people, or that he doesn't care that much about them. I see he cares a lot about wildlife, and he writes about the hedgehogs in his garden. I'm from a large family, but he has none. Am I wasting my time with him?

OP posts:
yousexybugger · 01/06/2022 08:34

Wow. You've created an entire fantasy of this man when you hardly know him. You've allowed this fantasy to encroach into real life with some rather stalkerish behaviour and over investment. He sounds very set in his ways and unavailable.

However, if you're determined to give him a go, he's asked you out twice and you've turned him down. In the normal run of things this would be your cue to suggest a time and place that you could attend. I wouldn't bother though. Honestly? If he didn't look like Daniel Craig, would you be frothing like this?

Turnthatoff · 01/06/2022 08:36

No meaningful relationships at that age? Not a chance.

Fairislefandango · 01/06/2022 08:37

Sorry, but you sound very, very odd. And the things you highlight/rate about this man say some strange things about your priorities in a partner.

LadyFlumpalot · 01/06/2022 08:46

Just recently I've started getting ads for romance story apps on my Facebook feed. Usually about an emotionally damaged billionaire boss rescuing his drunk secretary from a nightclub. Your OP reads very similar. If it is real, I expect the reason he's gone cold on you is because you've openly admitted to stalking him.

Caminante · 01/06/2022 08:49

I think you have convinced yourself that he is fascinating and mysterious and that there's someone really worth knowing behind all of that.

When I was online dating, I used to think this about certain men and really go out of my way to try to engage with them. But they were always deeply fucked up in some way and I was better off steering clear.

He seems perfectly content and self contained. Leave home be! As others have said, he could have done time, be gay, or just really prefer being on his own.

For your own sanity, just leave him be,

Caminante · 01/06/2022 08:50

Leave him* be

eatthecheesecake · 01/06/2022 08:54

Imagine if you couldn't find anything in common with ANYONE in your wider family. There's a common denominator.

He sounds like a boring knob

mycatallowsmetolivehere · 01/06/2022 08:55

I think you need another hobby , less time on your hands and less Mills and Boons whilst on the sherry

OnaBegonia · 01/06/2022 08:55

so unusual
nope, just a self absorbed twat old enough to be your dad, there are other men out there.

Spitescreen · 01/06/2022 09:16

You’ve gone to a lot of trouble to create a mysterious, aloof version of someone who just sounds like a gym bunny with no social skills or relationships.

What is this unnamed ‘cause’ in which you both so strongly believe and At whose protests he takes selfies surrounded by grinning women? Is it returning to imperial measurements or protests against grocers’ apostrophes?

MissNothing1991 · 01/06/2022 09:17

mycatallowsmetolivehere · 01/06/2022 08:55

I think you need another hobby , less time on your hands and less Mills and Boons whilst on the sherry

😆😆😆

Soupercat · 01/06/2022 09:23

Op sorry to do some research, but all your relationships have been complicated and over analysed

Herejustforthisone · 01/06/2022 09:29

I did check out his car in the gym car park to see if he had a child seat in it, or women's clothing

I've seen him chopping the trees in his garden in just his shorts

He's got a good sense of humour, and I notice that he laughs at things he's read on his phone

I also used to live near him, so I could see when he was at home or not, and I'd told him I knew when he was in, and how often I could see he was away.

Yikes. ^ 👀

He carries himself well, good posture, and I notice that he's dominant among others at the gym

Have we gone back to the Palaeolithic period and I’ve somehow missed it on the news?

There isn’t a bit of this thread that I don’t need explained.

But….my advice to you OP, is to stop gawping at the poor man and leave him to his hedgehogs.

Herejustforthisone · 01/06/2022 09:34

Spitescreen · 01/06/2022 09:16

You’ve gone to a lot of trouble to create a mysterious, aloof version of someone who just sounds like a gym bunny with no social skills or relationships.

What is this unnamed ‘cause’ in which you both so strongly believe and At whose protests he takes selfies surrounded by grinning women? Is it returning to imperial measurements or protests against grocers’ apostrophes?

Is there actually a cause surrounding grocers’ apostrophes? If so, I would like to join. I’ve been upset by many an A-board selling ‘strawberry’s’.

I once got asked to leave a pub for correcting an apostrophe on a chalk board sign. Apparently I’d upset the owner who had dyslexia. It went yet further down hill when I suggested maybe someone else should do the signs 😐

PaddleBoardingMomma · 01/06/2022 11:19

Soupercat · 01/06/2022 09:23

Op sorry to do some research, but all your relationships have been complicated and over analysed

This prompted me to go looking and... yikes?

Ops posts all read very bizarrely, large degrees of limerence and over analysis of every interaction. Op seems to get hooked and infatuated with the strangest of personality traits.

Herejustforthisone · 01/06/2022 11:30

PaddleBoardingMomma · 01/06/2022 11:19

This prompted me to go looking and... yikes?

Ops posts all read very bizarrely, large degrees of limerence and over analysis of every interaction. Op seems to get hooked and infatuated with the strangest of personality traits.

Jesus. Me too.

OP, you seem to label really awful men as ‘remarkable’ and ‘intelligent’, when in fact they’re just stupid and unpleasant.

I wonder about your self-esteem and how much of these ‘relationships’ are actually real.

PenelopeGarseeya · 01/06/2022 11:48

When you were describing him I pictured the guy from MAFs that was with Maz. Maybe Frankie or Freddie. Bad vibes.

then I read some of the PP’s and am going with undercover cop trying to infiltrate the grocer’s’ apostrophe activists!

Sandra1984 · 01/06/2022 11:54

Sounds like both of you have issues. You're completely infatuated with a stranger but have no time to ask him on a proper date? Are you really THAT busy? You make yourself unavailable twice to him and now you wonder why he's not reaching to you anymore? (If a man did that to me I would give up on him too). He sounds quite emotionally handicapped or maybe he suffers from emotional anxiety under all that charming mantle of muscles and "intellect" (observe commas). He seems to have a virtual groupies fan club , who like you are fascinated by him. If I were you I would give it a go and just plain ask him out to the pub and show you're VERY available. Try to show common interests and if he doesn't want to create some sort of proper "in real life relationship" with you I would unfollow him from my Facebook so I don't see his updates and move on to greener pastures. This guy sounds emotionally handicapped.

Dirtylittleroses · 01/06/2022 12:38

This is quite odd, like you spend your time obsessing on him. Why didn’t you just suggest alternate dates? He’s asked you out twice, you said no twice. He got the message.

JangolinaPitt · 01/06/2022 13:27

to stop gawping at the poor man and leave him to his hedgehogs😂😂😂

harriethoyle · 01/06/2022 14:06

chirpychirpycheepcheepy · 01/06/2022 00:02

Are you writing a short story and testing it here?

If so, it's really shit. Sorry.

😂😂😂😂

WishILivedInThrushGreen · 01/06/2022 17:17

Sorry OP but you seem rather too obsessed with him and I suspect he may already know that.

Kitten2 · 01/06/2022 17:24

Either ask him on a date (and chill out) or let it go (and also chill out).

Alwayshoovering · 01/06/2022 17:41

I love how the unnamed bloke is getting torn to shreds by some posters on here. No one knows anything about him other than OPs own warped view of him and information she has garnered from self confessed stalking him.
Any description of someone provided in the way OP has that is gained through stalking and unhealthy obsession should be taken with a pinch of salt

CPL593H · 01/06/2022 18:04

Look, if men are interested they let you know. If you are too, it really doesn't need this level of really quite obsessive analysis of their every trait. I very much doubt that he is the International Man of Mystery you paint him as, either.

Also, I now have a picture of poor Daniel Craig in his blue trunks being cartoon chased by the OP, who is brandishing binoculars and a big net.