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not inviting estranged parent to wedding

34 replies

weddingchat22 · 30/05/2022 12:43

Just posting to see if anyone has been in a similar position really -

My family situation is quite messy and my parents had a very messy divorce when I was around 11. My Father was emotionally abusive to us all growing up and was a bully, but especially to my Mother who he was also physically abusive to. He made our lives a misery with the divorce (we lived between them both) and made a difficult situation ten times worse.

They are both now with different people who they have been with a really long time now, and my Father had more kids. Things weren't great growing up but I tried to get on with it and a lot of the stuff that was going on from my Father I took as, it's just how it is and just tried to let a lot of things go.

Always been quite a one sided relationship in that I've always been the one chasing contact, trying to arrange to see them, me going to them and would never have heard anything from them otherwise. I've just kind of realised this over the years and decided to accept it for what it is, instead of trying to force something, and just accept that if I don't chase them as much we have a lot less contact. Therefore over the last 7 years or so, I see them very little. Hear from one of my half brothers via text occasionally and swap birthday / christmas texts with everyone else from my dads family (sometimes I get replies sometimes not)

Now I'm due to get married and don't know what to do about inviting them. If I see them I get on ok with them, we've not had any sort of big fall out or anything like that, but my Dad and his wife especially feel like strangers. They know I'm engaged but have never met my fiance and have never asked anything about him other than his name. I don't know if my Dad will come even if asked. I had a 30th birthday meal and invited them but he declined saying he would end up saying something he regretted to my mother and her husband and it would spoil the night so, I'm anxious about something like that happening if they came.

Even without an argument, it would all feel very awkward and i will feel very anxious about it all on the wedding day and in all the time leading up to it. My friend suggested holding a separate wedding celebration meal, for my Dad, his wife, half brothers and their partners etc. and not inviting them to the actual wedding day. I thought I'd decided that was the best thing to do and made my peace with it but, recently have been feeling quite emotional about it all and wondering what to do for the best. Part of the reason is for my mother, she would never ask me not to invite him but, if he comes she will be literally sick with nerves about seeing him as she was for my older brothers wedding about 12 years ago. Equally though, what almost non existant relatoinship there is now, could be down to nothing if they are upset about not being invited...

OP posts:
WildCoasts · 30/05/2022 12:49

It's really your choice. My children haven't invited their estranged grandmother to their weddings. What do you want to do?

Dacquoise · 30/05/2022 12:53

You have already stated this is a one-sided relationship and it would make your mother, who has always been there for you, uncomfortable so you have your answer really. Don't invite him, he doesn't deserve it. Enjoy your day with people who care.

Perhaps a couple of sessions with a counsellor would help you to do with the 'guilt' you are feeling?

KettrickenSmiled · 30/05/2022 13:03

This 'relationship' you have with your father & half-siblings?
It's all in your head OP.

They make no effort whatsoever, yet you are twisting yourself in knots trying to do the right thing by everybody.
It is YOUR wedding, not theirs.
Don;t invite them, ffs don't lay on a separate event for them, & don't even mention your wedding date.

If any of them happen to find out & have the cheek to kick off, remind them of this -
I had a 30th birthday meal and invited them but he declined saying he would end up saying something he regretted to my mother and her husband and it would spoil the night so, I'm anxious about something like that happening if they came.

Protect yourself, your DM & your fiance, & concentrate on having a lovely, happy, stress-free day with your loved ones.

And please - stop thinking you owe your father a relationship, consideration, or any more time living rent-free in your kind head.
He told you who he is on your 30th birthday - a man who is happy to Make It All About Him & upset you & your mother - believe him.

ItWillBeOkHonestly · 30/05/2022 13:03

Are you having a seperate ceremony/evening do? Just invite them to the ceremony part and that way they can turn up if they want but won't have to interact with your mum etc. Save your wedding breakfast/evening do for the people you have a genuine relationship with.

Onemoresleeptogonow · 30/05/2022 13:05

Imo your wedding day isn't about anyone but you. Make it as stress free as possible. Don't invite df..

KettrickenSmiled · 30/05/2022 13:05

arrgh sorry typ0 -
upset your mother, upset his own daughter, & ruin her birthday

MaggieFS · 30/05/2022 13:05

What do you want to happen?

FWIW, from what you've said, I can't see a reason why you should invite him other than 'he's your Dad' but it doesn't sound like he's done much to earn the title?

ShandaLear · 30/05/2022 13:08

I would not invite him, and I would make sure your mum knew this early so she can relax and enjoy the preparations. Your mum brought you up and deserves the honour of your loyalty and of being your primary supporter. I’d even go so far as to ask her to give you away. Arrange a celebratory dinner with your father after the event if you think he’ll be bothered.

Hoppinggreen · 30/05/2022 13:09

I didn’t invite my Father, didn’t even tell him I was getting married.
My brother gave me away

Dacquoise · 30/05/2022 13:15

BTW, neither of my parents were at my wedding. I eloped abroad. I wasn't invited to my mother's weddings (two) after she divorced my dad. Not bothered although she went into victim mode about mine. I also wasn't invited to my dad's second wedding. Completely messed up, dysfunctional family.

ItWentDownMyHeartHole · 30/05/2022 13:19

For your mum’s sake as well as your own I’d suggest don’t invite your dad. You don’t have a relationship with him really. It is a day you are supposed to enjoy.
For my wedding we went to the registry office with just two other people. My parents hadn’t had a nice word to say to each other for about fifteen years, their partners were fairly tricky and I couldn’t face having them all in the same room for that part. We did do a family meal straight after which was hard work. Then a big boozy party later on which was more fun.
I hope you have a lovely day whatever you choose.

Onemoresleeptogonow · 30/05/2022 13:21

<whispering here >
I have been married 4 times. Dm wasn't invited at any and df to just the first one..

drpet49 · 30/05/2022 13:21

“You have already stated this is a one-sided relationship and it would make your mother, who has always been there for you, uncomfortable so you have your answer really. Don't invite him, he doesn't deserve it. Enjoy your day with people who care.”

^This, don’t invite him

BlueHotel · 30/05/2022 13:23

I with pp who said don't invite your father or his family to the wedding and don't arrange another meeting - especially because he more or less said he might upset your mother. Why expose her to that?

Serenity45 · 30/05/2022 13:23

Different family dynamic to yours, but I have very little relationship with my biological Dad. We do see him at family parties and he's apparently a decent grandad to my brother and sister's kids, but neither myself nor my siblings particularly like him. Don't hate him either though. Our mum died 20 years ago, when they had already been divorced for about 10 years, so no friction / consideration there. I do have a fantastic relationship with my stepdad, who spent 8 years with my mum and still speaks very fondly of her.

To cut a long and boring story short, I would have felt wrong having my dad walk me down the aisle when I got married, given our lack of relationship. I knew my stepdad was very proud to do this and I actually thought it would be really insensitive to still invite my dad to the wedding. He would essentially be watching someone else do 'his' job.

I didn't invite my dad and his wife to the wedding but did write a brief polite note explaining why. They sent a card on the day via family and we've never talked about it since (as I barely see him). With hindsight I would still make the same decision now. It wasn't done out of anger or malice and really felt like the right approach. Hope this helps and I hope you have a fantastic day whatever you decide OP.

Katyrosebug · 30/05/2022 13:29

Don't do it! Getting married is nervewracking enough on the day without the added stress of what's going on with guests. If he was bothered he'd have made more of an effort to get to know your DH. I got married 6 months ago, space was tight and you could probably invite someone else to fill those spaces that'll be more excited for you.

TheDogsMother · 30/05/2022 13:38

I didn't invite my father to mine. Somehow he heard about and threatened to turn up anyway causing great stress and upset on the run up to my wedding. Which was absolutely typical of him. Don't invite him OP. He doesn't make any effort with you and it will just cause you so much worry.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 30/05/2022 14:22

“You have already stated this is a one-sided relationship and it would make your mother, who has always been there for you, uncomfortable so you have your answer really. Don't invite him, he doesn't deserve it. Enjoy your day with people who care.”

This in spades.

And what KettrickenSmiled wrote as well. You really do owe your dad nothing here, least of all a relationship where you are doing some sort of "please notice me/pick me" dance of attendance around him. All this will do to you is further wreck your already low self worth. It's not your fault he is the ways he is and you did not make him that way.

weddingchat22 · 30/05/2022 15:22

Thanks very much for all the replies they've been really helpful to read through, To be honest, when I had decided I wasn't going to invite them I felt immense relief. I think it's because I've been thinking about how I'd let them know and then been thinking about what their reactions might be, that I've started to second guess my decision about it all. For all there is very little contact i do still think they will be expecting to be invited.

My Stepfather is walking me down the aisle, which as someone else has mentioned, could be an awkward thing to watch

My half siblings don't really understand it all I don't think. He has been a brilliant father to them and they have had a very different experience of him growing up, so I think they probably see me as a bit of a crap daughter for not getting in touch very often and not going to visit. They don't know anything about how he has been and i think they have just assumed i was naturally closer to my Mother and have drifted away.

I think the person who suggested a counsellor is probably right, i think different stages of my life have resurfaced different bits and the wedding is another stage I guess.

Thanks again all, I think I am going to write them a note explaining and then just get back on with my wedding planning and hopefully get the excitement back for it all again

OP posts:
KettrickenSmiled · 30/05/2022 16:01

Thanks again all, I think I am going to write them a note explaining and then just get back on with my wedding planning and hopefully get the excitement back for it all again

Do you need to write them a note?
Are you sure that's not just your people-pleaser, trying to sabotage you?

It's not customary to send people a "you're not invited" note - we simply don;t send an actual invitation!

It's likely that you are making this a bigger deal (because it is - to you!) than it really is - because it's NOT a biggie to them.

Up to you of course but don;t do anything for a few days at least.
Let this settle, let the urge to pacify, facilitate, explain, fade away.
You'll find the excitement soon comes back when you stop worrying your lovely kind head with irrelevant detail. Like whether your father expects an invitation to a wedding he would enjoy deliberately spoling.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 30/05/2022 16:09

You do not owe these people anything; even such a note. As KettrickenSmiled wrote indeed do not let the people (parent) pleaser within you write such a thing.

LolaandTim · 30/05/2022 16:43

I'd maybe try and write my feelings down over the course of the next couple of weeks and see if this helps you figure out what you'd like to do.

I was in a similar situation with my own wedding. Growing up my father was emotionally manipulative and rushed into a doomed marriage with a vile woman, who tried everything to alienate a teenage me from my otherwise close knit extended family.

For me not inviting my father was easy - I didn't want him there for me but also because I knew my mum would hate seeing him too. I found taking her feelings into consideration helpful in that way.

Nevertheless if inviting them feels like an olive branch that will give you a lot of peace, then do it: it's your wedding.

senua · 30/05/2022 16:51

-I had a 30th birthday meal and invited them but he declined saying he would end up saying something he regretted to my mother and her husband
-if [dad] comes [mum] will be literally sick with nerves about seeing him as she was for my older brothers wedding about 12 years ago.
What on earth is going on? These people divorced more than 20 years ago. Haven't they managed to put it behind them yet?

KettrickenSmiled · 30/05/2022 18:19

What on earth is going on? These people divorced more than 20 years ago. Haven't they managed to put it behind them yet?

@senua I imagine what is going on is that OP's mum is wracked with nerves because he was such an abusive bastard that even now, she finds it very hard to be in the same room as him.
That's not stopping her from going to her daughter's wedding, & it's not making her issue ridiculous threats about ruining the occasion like OP's dad has form for.

Plenty of people are unable to see their exes of decades prior. They don't need castigating for being unable to "put it behind them". If you don't understand that, I'm pleased for you, because it means you haven't shacked up with an abuser.

It's not about "these people".

It's about OP's dad being a tricky sod. There's no need to tar her mum with the same brush.

NarcissasMumintheDoghouse · 30/05/2022 18:22

ShandaLear · 30/05/2022 13:08

I would not invite him, and I would make sure your mum knew this early so she can relax and enjoy the preparations. Your mum brought you up and deserves the honour of your loyalty and of being your primary supporter. I’d even go so far as to ask her to give you away. Arrange a celebratory dinner with your father after the event if you think he’ll be bothered.

This!