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not inviting estranged parent to wedding

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weddingchat22 · 30/05/2022 12:43

Just posting to see if anyone has been in a similar position really -

My family situation is quite messy and my parents had a very messy divorce when I was around 11. My Father was emotionally abusive to us all growing up and was a bully, but especially to my Mother who he was also physically abusive to. He made our lives a misery with the divorce (we lived between them both) and made a difficult situation ten times worse.

They are both now with different people who they have been with a really long time now, and my Father had more kids. Things weren't great growing up but I tried to get on with it and a lot of the stuff that was going on from my Father I took as, it's just how it is and just tried to let a lot of things go.

Always been quite a one sided relationship in that I've always been the one chasing contact, trying to arrange to see them, me going to them and would never have heard anything from them otherwise. I've just kind of realised this over the years and decided to accept it for what it is, instead of trying to force something, and just accept that if I don't chase them as much we have a lot less contact. Therefore over the last 7 years or so, I see them very little. Hear from one of my half brothers via text occasionally and swap birthday / christmas texts with everyone else from my dads family (sometimes I get replies sometimes not)

Now I'm due to get married and don't know what to do about inviting them. If I see them I get on ok with them, we've not had any sort of big fall out or anything like that, but my Dad and his wife especially feel like strangers. They know I'm engaged but have never met my fiance and have never asked anything about him other than his name. I don't know if my Dad will come even if asked. I had a 30th birthday meal and invited them but he declined saying he would end up saying something he regretted to my mother and her husband and it would spoil the night so, I'm anxious about something like that happening if they came.

Even without an argument, it would all feel very awkward and i will feel very anxious about it all on the wedding day and in all the time leading up to it. My friend suggested holding a separate wedding celebration meal, for my Dad, his wife, half brothers and their partners etc. and not inviting them to the actual wedding day. I thought I'd decided that was the best thing to do and made my peace with it but, recently have been feeling quite emotional about it all and wondering what to do for the best. Part of the reason is for my mother, she would never ask me not to invite him but, if he comes she will be literally sick with nerves about seeing him as she was for my older brothers wedding about 12 years ago. Equally though, what almost non existant relatoinship there is now, could be down to nothing if they are upset about not being invited...

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NarcissasMumintheDoghouse · 30/05/2022 18:26

KettrickenSmiled · 30/05/2022 18:19

What on earth is going on? These people divorced more than 20 years ago. Haven't they managed to put it behind them yet?

@senua I imagine what is going on is that OP's mum is wracked with nerves because he was such an abusive bastard that even now, she finds it very hard to be in the same room as him.
That's not stopping her from going to her daughter's wedding, & it's not making her issue ridiculous threats about ruining the occasion like OP's dad has form for.

Plenty of people are unable to see their exes of decades prior. They don't need castigating for being unable to "put it behind them". If you don't understand that, I'm pleased for you, because it means you haven't shacked up with an abuser.

It's not about "these people".

It's about OP's dad being a tricky sod. There's no need to tar her mum with the same brush.

If this was some stranger who had traumatised her with his abuse, none of us would expect her to have to socialise with him. But because it's her ex, she's supposed to just find the wherewithall to rise above!

I bet if she were to tell her story her on MN she'd be castigated if she didn't provide a trigger warning.

Wallywobbles · 30/05/2022 18:44

We had a rule for guests. If we hadn't both let them they didn't get an invite. So that would simplify this for you.

NutsaremyNemesis · 30/05/2022 20:51

Similar situation here - we cancelled two weddings because of them (both parents totally self absorbed). When we finally got married we didn’t have a soul from my side of the family - I knew they’d wreck it if they came and guilt trip us if one came and not the other so we didn’t tell or invite any of them. It was a bit sad in a way but also liberating - we totally enjoyed the day because we didn’t have to pander around them and also because we were safe in the knowledge that they couldn’t wreck it for us / make it about them.

do what YOU want to do and not what you think you SHOULD do. It’s your day so put yourself and your soon to be other half first.

Fenella123 · 30/05/2022 21:05

He didn't want to come to your 30th, it's perfectly reasonable to assume therefore that he'd have no interest in going to your wedding and wouldn't enjoy it.
So don't invite him, don't send him a message saying this or explaining why, but if he explicitly asks, just look innocent and say after his reaction to the invite to your 30tg celebrations, you'd just thought he wouldn't want to come to anything else for similar reasons. You were thinking only of his comfort :D

littlegingerone · 23/11/2022 15:35

Just thought I would update on this, partly thinking there might be other people in this situation looking for threads about it.
I had my wedding and didn't invite my father or step/half siblings. It was a lovely day, I felt very lucky and loved and it was everything I wanted. A few days after I sent my father a card explaining that because of everything I mentioned in my initial post, we had decided to have a separate wedding meal to celebrate with them all and if they would like to do this with us, to let me know and I would arrange it. That was about a month ago and I haven't heard anything back as yet so I'm not sure if I will.
I flit between thinking it was definitely the right thing to do because it meant it was a lovely worry free day, and thinking that might now be the final nail in the coffin to any relationship with them all.
When I look through my messages, there are literally just perfunctory messages of happy birthday and merry Christmas on those specific days and they never turn into a conversation, (questions of how are you etc. Left unanswered from my side). I also found out one of my half brothers had had a baby too, it had happened about 4 months before I found out.
So, I know it was the right decision and I can't imagine how the day and the build up would have been was my father invited, it would not have been the same happy occasion that it was. But, it's still a weird and tough thing to live with and I'm still waiting to see if I hear anything about it in the future I guess.
One of my friends said that if it was important to them, to celebrate with you, then they'll say yes to the meal, if not then it confirms even more that it was for the best not to invite.
For anyone reading who's in a similar position, I'd definitely second what people on here said, which is do whatever will make you happy on your wedding day. It's a very special day and you should be able to enjoy it and be excited for it.
And also just telling myself, it is what it is now, I definitely don't regret the decision but, it's just a weird and sad situation.

billy1966 · 23/11/2022 15:50

@KettrickenSmiled gave you excellent advice, among others and I am delighted you took it and had a lovely day.

You can't fix your father and you certainly can't turn him into a decent person.

A month has past.
Accept that the dinner won't happen and it would serve no purpose anyway.

Focus on your family, husband and future.

Should you choose to have children, it really would be better if he didn't figure at all in any celebrations going forward.

Life is short, nothing wrong at all with opting for a drama less life.

Good luck.

frazzledasarock · 23/11/2022 16:01

When I got married I invited the people I love most in the world, who were delighted to share in and celebrate me happiness, people who would be there for me if I ever need them. Everyone I invited made a significant positive impact on my life in some way, some simply being there and loving me.

I didn’t invite my family. They’d have made me miserable and upset me and added to the stress.

maybe it’s getting older, but I don’t bother with people who cause me hurt. Why on earth would I invite them on one of the happiest days of my life?

frazzledasarock · 23/11/2022 16:13

@littlegingerone just read your update. So glad you had a lovely wedding.

you will grieve your father being uninterested. It’s a process letting go of the father you really wanted and accepting the one you had.

littlegingerone · 23/11/2022 16:41

I think that sums it up very well @frazzledasarock
It's been very helpful getting it out on here and I had some really helpful responses that helped me be OK with my decision so thanks everyone 🙂
Sorry for the confusion with name change, I forgot my password to my first one!

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