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Husband wants to move, I don't.

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rootedhere · 25/05/2022 15:16

Looking for some advice as we are at a complete impasse at the moment and feels pretty rubbish as it feels either way one of us is going to be miserable and I quite genuinely can't work out what's best for the kids as if I knew that I'd do whatever that is... apologies for the length of this...

We are a family of 5 - we have lived where we are for the last 6 years & have 1 primary and 2 pre school age kids.
We currently live in a lovely village, not far from my family (40mins drive). It's safe, it's friendly, we don't have to lock our door etc, pretty idyllic really. Kids have developed friendships and so have I. Eldest goes to the village school that has its failings, but overall it's good, and little ones go to a lovely nursery not far away that I trust and are developing great friendships. People in the village and areas around are my friends, some of them are now really good friends.

My family are not helpful when it comes to childcare as they are too old tbh, but we see them every couple of weeks and it's nice for kids to see their grandparents & vice versa.

There are loads of activities that my eldest does that they are v lucky to get to do, and wouldn't necessarily be able to do elsewhere. We have a lovely house, big space & garden which would benefit from some work, but doesn't actually need any really. If we were staying though, I'd do the work for us to enjoy the house more.

I work part time (school hours) in a job that can be done anywhere, husband works for himself in a skilled profession BUT it's not been going so well the last few years as he works long hours for less that he's worth due to the nature of what he can do as one person and it's getting him down as he's v capable and should be earning a lot more than he is. I get this, I do.

He is saying that he needs to get a job, and I agree. BUT then he doesn't want to get a full time one as there is a family business that he's likely to inherit at some point in the next 5ish years, (maybe sooner as it will be whenever his elderly father admits it's too much for him and that's v much a moving thing).

We are lucky that we have savings that are a cushion if we need it, but basically something has to change work wise as can't go on like this forever, as he's finding his work demoralising and we need to do more than just break even each month (and with fuel prices increasing we won't breaking even come winter).

SO my answer to this is that one of us gets a better paid job. There are some available for what we both do in the cities we are commuting distance to. I have said I could do this, with DH taking charge of childcare and working part time instead of me, but DH pride was v dented by this idea, and if I'm honest it's not the way round I'd want it, but someone has to!

My DH answer is that he wants to move somewhere approx 400miles away (still the uk) from here, to where he grew up. His father and rest of his family are no longer there (they have moved approx 200miles away in different direction) - but it's where he feels is 'home' Sad . He feels that there is likely more work there (which is possible but not a given) and that it's closer to where he needs to be for the family business - while technically it's closer to the places he'd need to visit as part of the business, he wouldn't be visiting these places every week by any means and can do the actual work anywhere. It would mean though when the time comes to take it over, it will require less (occasional) commuting time from him. I think though that the family business thing is a red herring in many ways, as I think he just doesn't want to live in this part of the uk anymore.

My problem is that we (the kids and me) have a life here. I'd be perfectly happy to live here forever, I just want to put down roots and settle and not feel like the rug is about to be pulled from under me. I feel like DH hasn't really tried to settle here, he's never really socialised with many people etc, but maybe that's a man thing. DH thinks that he can't be happy here, and thinks practically he should be where he grew up as 'he knows it', but he hasn't lived there for 20 years. The family business thing wouldn't require him to work full time on it even when he does inherit it.

Either way he needs another job and there are ones available in the cities nearest us, I know, I've checked, but he's not applying for them as he doesn't want to be tied here. But then he's not applying for other jobs near where he grew up either. He's not showing me houses, researching schools etc, all the things that need to be done before moving 100s of miles. But I don't want to move, so I'm not doing it for him...

What do I do? I'm so tired of our life being on hold cause he doesn't like the current situation, but he's unable to show me how things will be so much better if we move. He's never once sent me a house listing to show me what we could get or anything like that. But anytime we talk about senior school for our eldest he says things like 'well I don't really want them to go there'. It all just feels a bit depressing. He doesn't want to be here anymore, but I don't want to move. I don't know anyone where he grew up - and it's not like he has lots of people he knows still there, there are maybe 2 acquaintances and they have their own lives. I know if we move it will be down to me to find new friends etc, but I feel like I'm too old now to go through all that again.

I love him, I do, but it's got to a point where I'm wondering whether we are just incompatible as we want such different things, I've told him if he wants me on board with moving he needs to sell it to me, but all I hear is why he's sad here, not real concrete reasons why he will be much happier there, just kind of existential stuff.

How do we navigate this?
If you've read this far, thanks, sorry it's so long!

OP posts:
confusedofengland · 14/01/2024 10:33

I know this is an old thread, so apologies for reviving. How are things going for you now, OP?

This all sounds very similar to the situation I currently find myself in. Been with DH for 23 years (married 20 in the summer), he is from 130 miles away from me, we met in his town. We moved together to various places, then eventually settled where I'm from.

We have 3 DC but older, late primary to Year 10 (nearly GCSEs). I was SAHM for 10 years, now working again, have job I love & lots of friends, family nearby. Boys have school they love & also supportive of DS2 SEN. He has had various jobs here but never really settled, been to uni twice so we have built up debt. Now he wants to move back to his home town, only his father is there (mother died during Covid), no friends. Could do a job from home.

He thinks this would resolve everything, we could sell our house, pay off debts & be mortgage free. Then he can do his chosen work & travel at will. I would have to leave everything I know, no guarantee of job there or school to support SEN.

I just can't do it. I will make lots of compromises, but the only thing that will make him happy is changing everything. I feel like it's too much. One of us has to give in & I can't see our marriage surviving. But it would break my heart to divorce & tear the family apart. I am at a loss.

rootedhere · 18/01/2024 09:29

@confusedofengland - I can't believe I'm saying this, but all this time on we are still at an impasse and things are v frosty between us, it's a pretty miserable way to live and I'm sorry that you are in this situation too. You actually sound like you have way more reasons to stay where you are and less to move than we do, and I just can't bring myself to do it. Tbh I think that for us part of why I cant move is cause I know that our marriage is hanging by a thread due to all this tension and moving away from my support network just seems ridiculous - if we did split, where would I be? I'd be stuck somewhere I know no one and unable to move back. We haven't had counselling. We need it. It's on the list of things to sort. But at the moment I'm actually looking at cheaper houses in our area and trying to get my head around how it would work logistically if we were to split - I worry about how the kids will cope though, so it's the nuclear option, but I don't know what else to do tbh. We should be talking about secondary schools for my eldest but we aren't cause DH doesn't want us to still be here in 1.5years, so why discuss schools here? I'm just worried this impasse is going to impact so much. 😢

OP posts:
Pumpkinpie1 · 18/01/2024 09:48

Has H seen his GP? He sounds depressed . Something is going on with him as his idea to move doesn’t make sense .

confusedofengland · 18/01/2024 11:47

rootedhere · 18/01/2024 09:29

@confusedofengland - I can't believe I'm saying this, but all this time on we are still at an impasse and things are v frosty between us, it's a pretty miserable way to live and I'm sorry that you are in this situation too. You actually sound like you have way more reasons to stay where you are and less to move than we do, and I just can't bring myself to do it. Tbh I think that for us part of why I cant move is cause I know that our marriage is hanging by a thread due to all this tension and moving away from my support network just seems ridiculous - if we did split, where would I be? I'd be stuck somewhere I know no one and unable to move back. We haven't had counselling. We need it. It's on the list of things to sort. But at the moment I'm actually looking at cheaper houses in our area and trying to get my head around how it would work logistically if we were to split - I worry about how the kids will cope though, so it's the nuclear option, but I don't know what else to do tbh. We should be talking about secondary schools for my eldest but we aren't cause DH doesn't want us to still be here in 1.5years, so why discuss schools here? I'm just worried this impasse is going to impact so much. 😢

@rootedhere I am so sorry to hear that nothing is better for you 😔 It is really tough & I know exactly what you mean about the marriage hanging by a thread.

We have had a minor miracle occur here. DH has been made redundant & been offered a sizeable payout! Not huge but is will pay off half our debts & mean that he can do some of the work he wants to do & get a different job. This means he is no longer desperately thinking about moving. I just hope he gets other work going forwards as we can't cope on my money alone- although I believe he will be able to claim Universal Credits as he has been made redundant, which will help.

I do hope you also manage to find something which will lighten your load.

Nomore45 · 18/01/2024 12:18

Don't underestimate the impact a move will have on your children. It's a huge unknown. I have known some children to thrive after a move, others struggle massively and it's never the kids you think! I live in an area where there are lots of families transitioning through and have seen so many cases of happy, thriving kids struggling to adapt to new towns/cities/countries and the impact lasting years.

In my own case, our family moved when our marriage was breaking down and I can honestly say that the change in location upset our child more than the break up of his parents. Luckily, our separation and divorce was amicable and we now co-parent well together. I have never once regretted the divorce. For years I regretted the upheaval of moving my son from everything he knew.

Crikeyalmighty · 18/01/2024 12:36

Those of you in this position, please don't move away from any support networks you might have on the whim of blokes having mid life crises. If it all breaks down you will want friends and for your children to have friends on hand. I have moved home 21 times with my H in 29 years - simply because nowhere was ever 'quite right' (luckily we rent) - the only thing I think wasn't quite right was his head- just in general a somewhat dissatisfied person who felt that the perfect location for him would make everything ok- this included a spell abroad too.

I finally put my foot down and although we have had 3 houses have been in same area 8 years-

forrestgreen · 18/01/2024 12:48

Did you go and visit 'his area' for a week. See what it's city like now. Places change so much. It might cement views for both of you or all of you if you've told the children.

'Dad would like us to move to x place so we're going to visit for week so we can see if it's just as nice as it was when dad used to live there. When we get back we'll all have a chat about what we think'

Has he put any effort into a new job, looking at new houses etc. or were expected to do all the leg work for him.

Tbh I'd tell him his attitude over the last few years has sucked, if he'd gotten a job in the city when first discussed he'd have been there for a few years and you'd have more in the bank. And would therefore be more in a position for this move he wants. This attitude isn't what you want in a marriage so either it's counselling or bust unless he has anything to say.

RoseWindow · 18/01/2024 16:12

please don't move away from any support networks you might have on the whim of blokes having mid life crises. If it all breaks down you will want friends and for your children to have friends on hand

extremely wise words here. If your partner is saying how perfect it will all be and can’t acknowledge any downsides at the outset that’s a massive red flag. It means they have a perfect rosy vision of what it could be. That means, your reality if it doesn’t work for you, will be an extremely unwelcome development for him. He may even perceive it as hostile to him. He will not want to compromise on his psychological comfort blanket to improve your actual reality.

jsku · 18/01/2024 16:57

@rootedhere

Sorry you are in this place, OP.
Do NOT uproot your kids. Your H is being selfish. He refused to make an effort and integrate. Or to get a proper job while he is waiting for his inheritance. So he is feeling down and like life is somehow dealt him bad cards. While instead he should be taking responsibility and making an effort.

His idea that some place where he currently knows no one would make him happier - just because he has happy childhood memories from there - is nonsense. Escapism to have an excuse to not look at himself in the here&now.
If you moved - he’ll be as (or more) unhappy. Kids will be unsettled and when your divorce finally happens it’ll be that much harder.

In your place - I’d buckle down and focus on your kids. Pick secondary for your eldest. Etc. Life does go on.
Prepare whatever you need for possible divorce. With a miserable and selfish H like this - it may not be the worst outcome.

You and the kids will be OK - and if it happens - at least you all’ll have friends around.

Aishah231 · 18/01/2024 17:42

Hi OP. Sorry you're still going through this. I think you just need to make a decision. If your DH still hasn't bothered researching into any of the concrete things which need to be sorted if you move then it's clear he doesn't intend to. He's expecting you to sort it all out. Don't. Start choosing secondary schools etc without his input. State clearly - you've had over a year to sell this to me and you've done nothing so I've made my decision. If you want to move it will be without us. If you refuse to get help or make any attempt to improve your mental health then you'll also be facing divorce. You can't let his inaction control your life OP.

Holdingsteady · 18/01/2024 21:37

Don’t do it OP. In two years he has not been able to produce a convincing plan, therefore he has lost this argument. Tell him once and for all, you are not moving.

if you are still able to secure a better paying job for yourself, then definitely do this. Start saving a nest egg for yourself and your children in case he he decides to spit the dummy and leave anyway.

It sounds like you don’t need counselling, you are settled and happy in your life, or at least you would be if your DH would only stop whining about shaking the foundations of your life. He is the one with the problem, he is the one who needs to sort out his mental health.

You know what you want, you know what your kids want and you already have it. You would be mad to give this up, if your DH really loves his family, he will do the right thing. If he loves himself more then let him go and find out for himself.

Leslieotter · 31/12/2024 21:22

Just wanted to say I’ve followed your thread. I know it’s quite old, but am in a similar situation and it’s helped me to feel less alone/crazy to not want to move my family, so thank you for sharing and hope you’re well.

SavageTomato · 31/12/2024 21:38

I only read to the bit where he wants move 400 miles away and thought fuck him. If his ego really is that fragile, then the whole relationship is fucked. Sorry.

NeedsMustNet · 31/12/2024 22:48

Please listen to the warning voices.

I have known a few women move house and uproot children and themselves, leave friends, careers and support networks behind in the vague and vain hope of making their spouse happier, less depressed, more “themselves” etc.. I have yet to see anyone’s partner who wasn’t happy already suddenly become happy as a result of a move in this way. But what I have seen is a lot of these women’s partners became (able to be) more controlling as a result of these moves, and the women became less happy,

Don’t do it, please.

You can make choices re: secondary schools, it’s not something that’s up to your partner to decide or veto for you,

Good luck.

Beenthere123 · 01/01/2025 08:46

NeedsMustNet · 31/12/2024 22:48

Please listen to the warning voices.

I have known a few women move house and uproot children and themselves, leave friends, careers and support networks behind in the vague and vain hope of making their spouse happier, less depressed, more “themselves” etc.. I have yet to see anyone’s partner who wasn’t happy already suddenly become happy as a result of a move in this way. But what I have seen is a lot of these women’s partners became (able to be) more controlling as a result of these moves, and the women became less happy,

Don’t do it, please.

You can make choices re: secondary schools, it’s not something that’s up to your partner to decide or veto for you,

Good luck.

100 percent agree with this. Isolation is dangerous.

Basilbrushgotfat · 01/01/2025 11:59

Zombie thread

hedgehogsinthehedgerow · 01/01/2025 15:01

No way would I move in this situation. The unhappy man is likely to be unhappy in the new place too. OP I'd let him try working elsewhere, staying there a couple of nights and commenting, or something like that. Or look at alternatives like getting a lodger or both doing extra part time jobs. The dh needs to take into account the upheaval to the kids.

RedRock41 · 01/01/2025 16:29

I’m with you OP. I’d not want to risk all on a romantic whim. Has disaster written all over it. Sod being uprooted, losing your community, kids being upended just because DH has nostalgia about a certain area.
Could be an expensive, costly mistake plus it’s important that when families move it’s to and for something better. He has given zero assurance that is the case. He sounds depressed and stuck. Chances are when he finds out grass is not greener he will still be depressed and stuck. I’d not be moving and if he wants to let him. Even suggest he move first to try it for a year but be clear you are not. I’d also ask does he want you and the kids to feel like he does now? I wonder if part of the nostalgia he feels is how he remembers he was then? Unstressed and things simpler? Whatever it is he’s seeking - can get that at current home. If you haven’t already get old photos up, his achievements, ‘home’ is the people who love you not a house wherever that is. I wouldn’t be offering to work FT until the kids are older if that isn’t what you really want. You’ve offered he said no so leave it at that. He’s a grown up and needs to realise it’s not just about him. Is there any way you can start introducing him to integrating to village life more? Get him a tribe too? Good 🍀 luck. Not easy but get where you are coming from 💯.

FelixtheAardvark · 01/01/2025 16:48

Tell him not to be a divot. He's got family responsibilities and must stand up and face them, not run away 400 miles (or whatever it was) to where he used to live in the pious hope things will be better there. They won't be.

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