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Friends with Benefits - or is it? Mixed signals. Colleague.

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Sophia1980ES · 23/05/2022 08:12

Hey everyone, lovely to meet you all, first time poster here.

I'm 41, came out of a 6 year rship several months ago; ended because we were sexually incompatible and didnt have sex for last 4 years of our r'ship (wonderful, caring, kind, loving man - but wasn't into sex/had performance issues).

10 months ago, i started a new job working in very close proximity to my work colleague. He's 36, single, not married, no kids.

I never looked at him in that light when i met him, as he wasn't my usual type. When i met him he was single, then met someone after a few months. He used to give me the odd lift to the station and text me on my bday/christmas - but didn't look into it or anything.

Several weeks ago he was on holiday with his friend and i was covering him at work; he sent me photos of the scenery where he was and asked how i was getting on in his absence/any news work front (he runs the job we are both on).

Fast forward a week later (6 weeks ago); his rship ended after 6 months. She ended it i believe, but was amicable discussion. She had 2 kids so don't know if they played a part but..

Anyway, conveniently around the same time, he did show interest by texting me to make sure i got home ok (after dropping me off at the station), and wishing me a good weekend. Then it progressed to 'if you're bored later', i.e. if i wanted to chat in the night time (which we'd never done before). I said i didn't want to cross that line and he apologised. I don't recall the turning point but anyway, things became a little flirty (cheeky, not sexual). God knows how I suddenly started to see him in a new, attractive light, but i did.

The texts became more frequent - he was always the pursuer, not me. I made it clear i wanted to regain some control over the situation by allowing me to do the chasing - i.e. i'll text him maybe once through the week and weekends is ok. It was lovely being pursued but i wanted to be in control - emotionally aswell.

He would continue to drop me off at the station after work (this isn't everyday - just couple of times a week, as I WFH 3 days a week). Again, he'd text me asking if i got home ok and texts became more frequent after i got home from work.

When it became clear that a strong chemistry had developed, we did speak about expectations. I said i didn't want a relationship (been in them most of my life), prob more of a FWB thing - a term he said he doesn't normally like to use, but understood the situation.

One day when he dropped me off at the station, about 6 weeks ago now, he went in for a kiss and it was amazing. We did briefly talk about the fact he'd only just come out of a rship and i didnt want to be seen as some sort of rebound; he said he didn't see it like that.

Anyway, for last 6 weeks it's just become more intense - like, him texting me every day of an evening. I love it, don't get me wrong, but subsequently, i have become emotionally involved with him. I've began to fall (but not in love), because he has given me that impression he is interested in not just sex. For exaxmple, texts like 'see you tomorrow beautiful'; 'i would make love to you'; 'you're funny, intelligent, have a big heart'; and things like 'i just want sex with you'; 'i want you to be just mine'; 'id be happy to just spoon/cuddle'. etc. Also, he'd send photos of the meal he had, if he went to a restaurant, or photos of ceramics he made at his weekly ceramics club, photos of him in his friends garden where he was helping them dig up some soil, photos of his group of friends showing them all at a Eurovision party (i'm a massive Eurovision fan). So you can see how these texts/photos are giving me a different impression to that of it just being about sex....

In a different conversation more recentl, we spoke about what type of rship would we have - if not a conventional normal one - (because i didn't want a 'normal' rship'. So i said something like 'not living together, not text everyday, no rship obligations you typically have' etc. He followed this up with 'so would we hold hands... go for lunch...'. We did arrange to meet up actually, at his, because a few weeks earlier he said 'i know this is random but would you like to meet for lunch? or we could go for walk, i could pick you up. Just platonic'. I didn't take him up on it at the time, but asked him few weeks later (last weekend) if he were up for it, and he said he was. In the end it was cancelled, as we both agreed that it would just lead to sex in the end.

As for sex - i said i wouldn't sleep with him until we no longer work together. I'm due to move onto a different job in 4 weeks, and he respects and understands that. He said he's not interested in Tinder and is happy to wait. Things have become more intense because we have become sexually intimate (no oral, just touching). The chemistry is insane.

What really fcked with me head was last Friday. So, he gave me a lift to the station again, but much closer to home ( i work 50 miles away, so he drove me 25 miles closer to a station) - he lives 120 miles away. We became super passionate in the car as the rain poured down and anyway, i left to grab the train. He text me saying he got home ok and we continued to text throughout the night. Texts got more sexually heated and at one point he was talking about kissing me passionately whilst we made love. But this is where it really fcked with my head. So he continues this conversation by saying he'd kiss my neck...spoon me....and then he said 'I'd whisper in your ear........ I love you Sophia'.

It thew me. Naturally. I know he didn't mean it. Imemdiately i shot him down and said 'Dont say things like that. They're strong words which shouldn't be used lightly. Especially when i'm trying to be emotionally resilient'. He apologised and backtracked saying 'im sorry i meant id love to make love to you'. Didn't wash. We moved on from that, but i felt a little angry he'd make a throw away comment like that, especially when i am emotionally involved with him now. We ended the convo about 1am, where he accidently nodded off. The last text i sent him was in response to what sort of long term rship set up would i see us having. Woke up next morning (Saturday gone) to a string of texts saying 'Morning... sorry i nodded off.... interesting dynamic for a rship you mentioned....would we hold hands? Go for lunch? Then have passionate sex'.

So yeh, my head's a bit f*cked. I thought i could do the whole FWB thing but know I can't now. Thankfully i haven't slept with him, nor done oral or anything.

Over the weekend it was pretty quiet, but we text alot last night - but it was chiefly just sexual. Very sexual stuff, photos etc. To the point i felt put off. Why? Because he went from being this guy on Friday night, who came across like he was in love with me, to just very transactional.

What the hell am i supposed to take from these texts where he's sending me photos of what he's up to, photos of his friends, asking if i got home ok, saying he wants to make love to me/or just wants to cuddle, texts saying he just wants sex with me and doesn't want to share me either.

Eugh, i totally see this as a rebound sitatuation but saying/doing those things in the aforementioned paragraph is giving me mixed signals.

Any insight would be appreciated, thank you :)

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totallyoutnumbered · 27/05/2022 11:30

Watchkeys · 27/05/2022 10:10

Drop the drama, and don't get involved with someone who confuses you, unless you enjoy being confused.

There's nothing complicated here, and you're making a soap opera out of it. Spend your time and energy on people you have clear, open communication with.

That's it. The full story.

This

AramintaLee · 27/05/2022 22:37

This is all so sex focussed. All your contact seems to be in a car when you're on your way to the station and over text. Why not... date? Go for dinner... go for a long walk... watch a movie at the cinema... see if you actually get along as people outside of the sex talk.

I think if you put too much emphasis on the sex, it will only lead to disappointment.

Crimeismymiddlename · 28/05/2022 08:15

This seems extremely complicated. He is trying to get you to sext him, you are really into him he cancelled the hotel because he wants to take it slower but you have not even been on a date yet and he has not suggested one. It sounds like he wants sex but possibly not paying for a hotel so you will shag in the car instead.
I had a similar thing, no sex for five years, met someone I was surprised to really like, lied to myself I did not want something serious, night together was disaster due to me getting too drunk, never heard from him again. It was a bit shit but really helped me be more honest about what I want.
You want a serious relationship, does he, how feasible is it when you live so far away from each other.

Sophia1980ES · 06/06/2022 17:32

Well, just thought I'd update everyone on what's happened since...

We finally did sleep together - at this place - and I stayed over. In fairness, it was a lovely and positive experience. He made me dinner, we went for walks and bought me breakfast. Gave me a kiss and a hug when he dropped me off the next day, and said he'd send me some photos later that night of a gig he was going to.

He text me a couple of hours later saying 'Thanks for coming down Sophia 😊Have a lovely day! Will send you some gig photos later! 😁'

Well guess what, I heard fuck all. Pre - sex no doubt about it, he'd be in touch. I woke up the next day feeling a bit shit. So adding as he did 98% of the texting these last couple of months, I thought sod it - can't be arsed with these mind games of 'should I, or shouldn't I text'. So I'd did. I thanked him for a lovely time and said I was extremely satisfied with what I saw and received - that he was attentive, passionate and considerate. I thought it was important to let him know that. Why? Well the sex was amazing and occasionally he would lose his erection and wanted him to know I loved every minute of it. We actually made love - he was kissing me and spoonkng me all the time - looking into my eyes whilst he kissed me slowly. I definitely know the difference and this guy was making love to me like he was madly in love with me (obviously he isn't).

He did respond quickly and basically said he was very happy with how I was, but wasn't overall happy with his performance, he said 'that's just me, always wanting to do better'. I responded on back of that saying I didn't see it like that and 'with the intention of doing it again we can get into a better rythymn'. His response was 'practice makes perfect right?'.

So why am I feeling like utter shit? Because the mood has definitely shifted. Is normally get a text Sunday night (last night) - I didn't. Or some sort of good morning via text or on Teams in work - absolutely nothing. He's definitely not like he used to be (pursuing me every day via text - be that a good morning or sending me photos of what he's made for dinner).

I totally regret it now. I honestly thought he'd still continue with the frequent texts and asking how my day was, or wishing me a lovely evening. That's stopped.

Lesson learned.

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Sophia1980ES · 06/06/2022 17:44

Oh and for clarity - we had "the conversation" about what this would be (a week before we had sex). He said he wanted to be single for a while, so the arrangement was to be casual sex with just eachother.

So for those of you who suggested I was stringing him along, or I'm a bit of a head fuck to him, clearly this is not the case if he said he wanted to be single for a while.

I do appreciate everyone's input, it has been benecifical to me, thank you.

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Tractorcrisis · 06/06/2022 17:46

“see you tomorrow beautiful'; 'i would make love to you'; 'you're funny, intelligent, have a big heart'; and things like 'i just want sex with you'; 'i want you to be just mine'; 'id be happy to just spoon/cuddle'.”

Every one of those texts would make me cringe. Urgh. It just sounds like too much already and a bit creepy.

Tractorcrisis · 06/06/2022 17:56

And I just read your update. Double urghhh. I think there are - sadly a LOT of men that do this. Love bomb until they get you in bed. Then nothing. Give it a couple of weeks and he’ll be at it again.

layladomino · 06/06/2022 18:16

It shouldn't be this complicated. If you like someone, and they like you, and you're both single, then it's fairly straightforward. It's only complicated because one or both of your are making it so. And that's what you need to understand.

It sounds like you're really confused about what you want, and have sent mixed messaged. He sounds like a love bomber who is enjoying the chase but may well lose interest once he thinks you're 'caught'.

At the very least you need to be honest with each other about where you are. No game playing or second guessing is necessary in a healthy relationship.

Sophia1980ES · 06/06/2022 19:36

@Tractorcrisis yep, I fell for it hook line and sinker sadly - because I'm a romantic at heart and like to believe people have good intentions. I've known him for nearly a year and his character screamed 'selfless' - he volunteers at a homeless shelter every week and is giving his home up to a Ukranian family soon. So you can see how and why I trusted someone like that who would do those things. Just goes to show, you don't know... 😒

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Sophia1980ES · 06/06/2022 19:41

@layladomino fhanks for your message I appreciate it. I agree, it shouldn't be hard, but I've now got the impression post sex that it is - for some reason. Here's a guy who was very happy with how I was in bed, and seemed to enjoy my company (I've worked closely with him for a year), yet he's not coming across as though he wants to pursue me again - like he used to. I'm a nice, warm-hearted, funny intelligent, independent, good looking woman - it's sad really its confusing as it is.

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Hawkins001 · 06/06/2022 19:46

All the best and positivity op

Sophia1980ES · 06/06/2022 19:50

@layladomino sorry forgot to add - I don’t believe I have sent mixed messages because we were always of the understanding that neither of us wanted a relationship - so we agreed to a FWB situation. But thr mixed signals came from him with the love bombing and now and again, asking what type of dynamic relationship we’d have (holding hands, , going for lunch, passionate sex and good company- his words) - which confused me as why would he make reference to those things if we agreed on a FWB situation?

I think he has basically gotten carried away with himself and then after the moment arrived, crapped himself as post sex, it brings everything to light. The chase is over basically (my choice), and I feel sad because I thought I was a lovely enough woman (I am). I’ve never had this experience before of being chased endlessly, by a guy I’ve known for nearly a year, and then effectively put to the side. I’ve had 4 long term relationships where all but one.we’re lovely guys who still wanted to stick with me even after sex.

it hurts, a lot.

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Tractorcrisis · 06/06/2022 19:56

@Sophia1980ES I fully admit that I’m not romantic at all. But it’s such a common theme - SO many men do this. They love the chase, fail to contact after - and then rear up again a couple of weeks later when they fancy a bit more.

So the ‘make love’ and the ‘beautiful’ and ‘I love you’ etcs - need to be sincere, not words used to get you in bed. Used too early on it’s - well it reminds me of going on holiday and getting hit on….

And volunteering is nice, but there are those than volunteer who genuinely care - and those that do it to look good….

Tractorcrisis · 06/06/2022 20:00

He will be back, and I think you need to be strong in your response. And keep yourself very open to someone who is decent and committed.

Sophia1980ES · 06/06/2022 20:01

@Crimeismymiddlename wow so you went the same thing as me? (I’ve posted an update since your post). You can see why i went for it after 5 years of no sex too! Was worried it was going to go on another few years and didn’t want to regret taking the opportunity with someone I trusted and knew well.

he doesn’t want a serious r ship no. I said from the beginning I didn’t and he’d come out of a r ship a month prior so knew it wasn’t for him too. We also spoke a few times of the arrangement, so it was always clear what the situation would be. Again, he only said a week ago that he was happy to be single for a while (which I get , plus he’s going travelling around U.K. for 8 weeks in July to stay with family and friends). He we’d hook up whilst he’s away , but now post sex I can’t see that happening.

so no, we both knew a r ship wasn’t going to happen currently. I just thought he’d still be receptive if he had such a great time when we slept together. I just don’t get it. Ah well.

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