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Life in tatters - menopause and it’s consequences

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Namechanger250 · 21/04/2022 17:12

Hi,

Name changed for this but please don’t beat me with a stick. I know that I have been an idiot and handled things completely wrong and am left with a life in tatters.

I had, what some would perceive as, the perfect life. A good job, a nice husband, two lovely/intelligent kids, nice holidays, a nice house owned outright, plenty of money etc. However, underneath, I was unhappy. To be perfectly frank, I was unhappy in my marriage. It was just like a friendship and I knew, and had probably known since day one, that I wasn’t attracted to my husband. He was my first. He was also quite a bit older than me (>10 years). I had been very shy as a teen girl/young woman and had spent my evenings/weekends studying so that I could get a good job and get a better life than I’d had as a child. My parents split up when I was 8 years old and I was moved away (one day after being told my mother was ‘leaving’ my dad) from the family home to a 2 bedroomed council house. My elder siblings were quite a bit older than me and had already left home.
My mother didn’t work (severe asthmatic) and also didn’t meet anyone else. She was 48 when we left - always seemed older to me. We didn’t have much and I never went anywhere outside my home town (pretty boring place and I left as soon as I grew up). We went on a couple of day bus trips each year - to the seaside - and that was it. I never saw my father again and found out he’d passed away at the age of 64 (when I was 24). So, I hadn’t had a male figure around growing up. My older brothers married and had families of their own and didn’t really bother with me. Big age gap between us.
Anyway, like I said, I was determined to do better for myself than my mother did. As a consequence, I didn’t socialise as much as I should’ve done when younger. I did well. BSc then MSc and straight into my profession and rose to senior management level. Obviously, money was never an issue for me.
I had taken a year out from university to gain some work experience in the area I wanted to be in and I met my husband during this year. I’d always had the feeling I was going to be left on the shelf (even though I was attractive and only 21/22). We got on ok and he took me places in his car - places I had never seen - and took me abroad for the first time (Europe, USA and Canada). I loved it. He was 33 and living at home with his parents and hadn’t had girlfriends (no red flag raised). He was in a dead end job and had failed his degree at university years earlier - never made any attempt to resit his exams or try something else. Anyway, he asked me to marry him (in an awkward situation that sort of pushed me into saying yes) and that was that. His mother and father (both now RIP) were delighted and I was snowballed into marriage. We married when I was 25 in a register office as I didn’t want a church wedding (looking back, I’m now 50, I realise how young and inexperienced I was) and he was 36. I think the not wanting a church wedding was because, deep down, it didn’t feel right. I was an idiot but felt under pressure to marry as all of my friends had.

We travelled a bit more and bought our first house. His mother passed away after suffering years with heart problems. Our sex life was crap. I knew I was passionate but had never had the chance to express it. One, because I knew, deep down, I wasn’t sexually attracted to him and, two, he was very cold emotionally/sexually. He was never the virile/horny type - in some ways this was good as I knew he was unlikely to cheat or anything but it was also bad as it meant we were never sexually compatible. He never touched me (foreplay) and wouldn’t kiss as he ‘couldn’t breathe‘! I often thought he wasn’t a sexual man. When I hit 30 the biological clock started ticking. We had two children but both conceived by IUI as we just weren’t able to conceive naturally even though all tests came back clear. I now think sexual incompatibility may have played a part. Years went by and I physically couldn’t go near him as he was poor at it, not attractive and I just couldn’t! Our marriage became sexless. For years and years.
I started to realise that there were other things making me unhappy. I carried him. A lot. Both with running the house, looking after the kids and providing the money. I work in a stressful role and rose through the ranks whereas he stayed at the same level and on the same salary. I felt like a doormat in some ways. He was emotionally cold. Never complimented me (other men do) and etc.
I had accepted that this was my life and got in with it. I spent a lot of time with my mum (RIP 2015) inbetween working and raising the kids. I did work part time for ten years
but returned full time just after my mum’s passing. My mother had been a difficult woman. I coped though but always felt a bit like there was no happiness in my life. She was diagnosed with terminal bowel cancer a year before she died.

Two years after my mother’s death - at the age of 45 - my periods stopped suddenly and never returned. A few months later I started to feel odd. Very frustrated, short fused but extremely horny!! I had no idea at the time it was menopause and had put my lack of periods down to my working life. I had, at this time, lived in a sexless marriage and had slept alone in another room for years and years (sexless for over a decade). I have no idea what the hell I did next but, I ended up chatting online to another man. I know you will not like what I did next but, looking back, I realised that I was living in a dead/cold marriage of ‘convenience’ and had a gap the size of the Grand Canyon in my life. I was a people pleaser and had lived my life looking after and pleasing others rather than myself.
Well, this other man was also married and also living in a sexless marriage. No kids. Similar situation - he was married to an older woman etc. We got on well, very well. And of course both of us ended up sexual in the end but he always insisted he never wanted to meet. Like a fool, I fell for him in time and we did meet - again and again (he lives over 200 miles away so it hasn’t been that often) and well, yes, we did and, yes, it was amazing always. Always amazing to be with him even in a cafe. We just got on so well. He always felt guilty and tried to stop it but it kept happening. I was an idiot. I started to look at my marriage and why I felt the way I did and it became obvious. I was neglected as a woman and a wife. I had lived with a man who had never even complimented me, put his arm around me, hugged me or told me he’d loved me. The OM was the opposite!! When he took hold of my hand I almost melted into the ground. I had never felt like this before. He said he often got carried away with me and, after 5 years of ‘friendship’ he put a stop to it so we never meet again after a steamy night in a hotel room. I had already ended my marriage at the end of 2020 btw as I knew I had crossed the line and I had started to realise why. He was giving me what I so very much desired and I had/have strong feelings for him. However, he won’t leave his wife. He has made that clear and I feel stupid and used after so many phone calls (hours long) and Skype chats. He provided support my husband never did in all areas of my life. He has a tendency to come back but I know this has to stop. We have tried to be just friends but it is impossible due to the high sexual chemistry between us. I know I need to move on.

However, my life now lies in tatters. I quit my job and moved into another area thinking it would solve everything. I have lost my career/profession. I am on more
money but have awful staff (needy/bullying) to deal with and a very stressful role. It isn’t my background so I am extremely unhappy. The youngest child lives with me so I am unable to return to my profession as it would mean moving away from her father. He moved out and lives across town. I am also still battling through divorce proceedings as he is offering a 70/30 split in his favour. My eldest child has really taken it badly. He lives with his father although he is away with me at present. He says I have picked a horrible time for him (A-levels) to divorce and he is blaming me for everything. I wanted to end the marriage years ago but didn’t as there was never a right time.

I am so unhappy right now. Alone in the evenings (youngest in her room) and nobody there for me. I feel under immense pressure to pay bills now and keep this job going. I have someone at work who is after my job so is trying to belittle me so that I leave. I have to sell the family home and give him his share meaning I need a mortgage till 67 leaving me with little disposable income and a worse lifestyle than I have ever had. I feel bitter at the relationship I could’ve had but never did and bitter at what I am losing even though I was the one who worked hard (doing courses) to get a better salary.
I know a lot a people on here will beat me with a stick but I truly can’t believe how I got here! Menopause changed me and made me go through all sorts of shit (at times I was suicidal)! I didn’t go on HRT and seem to be through the worst of it now but I feel very, very different to what I did 5 years ago.
How did this happen and what the heck can I do??

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Udder4Belief · 23/04/2022 00:14

I agree, you cannot change the past, but you can make a better future for yourself

Complete the divorce

Perhaps change jobs again

Try to find things that make you happy

Thisisworsethananticpated · 23/04/2022 08:05

You sound very bruised
you can’t fix everything

personally I’d be happy the marriage is over !

you need to get your mental health back on atrack as a priority

see a Gp , consider some meds
find a therapist
be very mindful abiut self care , sleep , fresh air and exercise

there is never good time to divorce
its always brutal

I’d consider yourself as bruised not broken
get yourself in a healing and self care mode

stop the guilt and blame
and try to rebuild

RebookRace · 23/04/2022 08:38

ParisNoir · 22/04/2022 08:05

Firstly, I wouldnt rely on a GP for menopause/HRT advice. I booked a private consultation with a biodentical hormone specialist- someone who is expert in their field. They told me that actually- its to balance hormones and if you are estrogen dominant for example, NOT taking progesterone to balance it out can actually put you more at risk of female cancers. Alcohol consumption actually puts more people at risk of developing hormone related cancers and yet funnily enough- more people scream about the dangers of HRT than they do about a daily glass of wine. Funny that.

With regard to your personal life, I think you need to talk to someone objective like a relationship counsellor- it sounds like you have had a marriage full of emotional neglect and I think before you move on to another relationship you need to process what happened in your marriage first. Good luck!

Can you recommend any biodentical hormone specialist, ideally in the London area? Thanks

ParisNoir · 23/04/2022 08:40

RebookRace · 23/04/2022 08:38

Can you recommend any biodentical hormone specialist, ideally in the London area? Thanks

Dr Martin Galy. He's amazing and a pioneer of biodentical hormones. You can google him and see how many glowing reviews he's got. Based in London.

DFOD · 23/04/2022 09:23

You are being shafted in this divorce.

Inheritance is not ring fenced in a divorce if it was put into the family pot during the marriage because it has been baked into the cake.

If your DH has kept his inheritance cash/asset separate in his name then it can be ring fenced.

I also agree about the part time and pension sharing points. You need to invest in much better legal support - it will pay back £££ and be a good return on investment. If you don’t have the cash to hand - ask for fees on account arrangement until the divorce is finalised.

Agree with PP you need an overhaul of your physical health and mental health.

Blaming menopause, blaming your STBXH, blaming your colleagues, blaming the xOM, blaming your solicitor is a mindset that is keeping you paralysed in victim mode. This is not an unusual emotional stance for someone with your deficient childhood background - to feel hopeless and powerless - because that was what it was like for you as a child. No one encouraged or supported your self worth, sense of agency and emotional resilience. You have practical resilience as you powered through academics and career.

I don’t doubt that you were an especially vulnerable victim all of these people and experiences but all have included choices that you have made - mostly to stay, do nothing or capitulate to the will of others. Again understandable when your emotional development is compromised.

However in all of these situations you can have more choice, agency and control even if it is just to reframe your narrative so that it doesn’t weigh you down and paralyse you by taking responsibility for repairing the emotional deficit through therapy so that you can build new emotional resilience and self esteem to move you through this stuckness to a brighter more fulfilling future.

Well done for having a great career. Well done for your ability to reflect so thoroughly on the tough inadequate hand you were dealt in life - but seek professional support to turn this around.

Did your DH find out about the affair?

I wonder if you are so submissive about the 70/30 split because you feel guilty about the affair and/or calling an end to the marriage?

None of that should have any bearing on financial settlements.

coffeeisthebest · 23/04/2022 09:55

OP. You rock. You finally, finally, did what you wanted to do after years of doing what you thought you should do. Don't lay this in the lap of the menopause, salute your inner voice for finally saying 'FUCK THIS SHIT'. Sorry for swearing but I was exhausted reading how you got where you were. Yes it has undoubtedly been messy but so are all relationships and break ups. It's just life. I would all suggest counselling as you need to address the part of you that seems to want a beating. You need to bring that in-line, and you need space to process and grieve so you can support your kids through this separation and possibly once they realise they have grown up in an emotionally stunted house. Please embrace your feelings now they are here. Laugh, cry, scream, rage, grieve, feel heartbroken. You are actually alive finally and you have lived.

Namechanger250 · 23/04/2022 13:11

Hi all,
I feel bad that I have destroyed a family but I was unhappy living in a marriage that was cold. Yes, we did things as a family - day trips and holidays - but it was very obvious that between myself and my husband there was no real connection. I couldn’t go near him sexually in years and we had become brother and sister raising two kids. He was quite happy to live like that but I started to realise that he wasn’t a very passionate/sexual man anyway and I am even suspicious that he may bat for the other team at times. Maybe I’m wrong but all of his friends (now over 60 years old) are all single and never married/never seen with a woman. Maybe he didn’t do himself any favours by not hanging around with family men etc. He was always socially awkward with other people and you could see him standing in the queue at Costa feeling uncomfortable when someone spoke to him. He would get flustered. I do wonder if there is anything wrong with him that has been hidden. I know the age gap issue caught up with me and the OM really made me realise and wake up to what I’d missed out on but something isn’t right with my stbx. I really don’t know what though! He didn’t seem emotionally switched on. And, my background, probably made me oblivious to this in the early years. We had some great holidays - USA, Canada - but I never felt like that OMG I want to make love to you/kiss you feeling.

As for the OM. My anger towards him is growing. To allow something like this to go on for so long and then just decide to get rid of me after sharing a great time together (because of guilt) is shocking especially when he knew I had feelings for him. If the shoe had been on the other foot, and he’d had feelings for me but I knew I would
always get rid of him and not end my marriage, I would have ended it very early in especially when I knew that person wasn’t quite mentally well (menopause) and their marriage was deteriorating (through thoughts of ‘what if’). He was always lovely to me and we’d chat for hours - any topic; holidays, jobs, politics - but it obviously went too far for him. But, my anger is, that he should’ve stopped it a long time ago!!! Yes, he is in a sexless marriage but you don’t ruin someone’s life just to get some fun! He, of course, has inherited money from his mother and will be taking early retirement and blissfully happy! I really want to indirectly tell her! I’m not the first woman he has been with. He met someone else once in similar circumstances and felt guilt and ended it (they only met once though. I do think he feels bad and possibly has traits of a sex addiction fuelled by a sexless relationship but you don’t destroy other lives to make yourself feel better.

I am feeling really bad about my children. Yes, my marriage was affecting me and a perfect storm was brewing for years as I knew I was emotionally/physically not supported in the marriage but I feel terrible at what I have done to my kids. The eldest one (18) in particular. He had tears in his eyes the other day and he said he is fed up if being the one in the middle of us (we don’t speak at all, myself and his father) and he felt he couldn’t make a decision about his future right now. As a result, he looks like he will be turning down his university offers and has talked about a gap year. He has blamed me for everything and can’t see how and why I was unhappy. It is difficult to explain to an 18 year old. He hasn’t had a girlfriend yet! I just say we didn’t connect and had little in common. I did want to end the marriage before the pandemic and thought about it before then but it was never the right time!! I filed for divorce after GCSE’s (his grades were predicted so he hasn’t actually sat any exams yet so it’s going to be tough to go straight into A-level exams).

I am starting to count the pennies which I’ve never done before! Saying that, a lot is because I’m taking the children trans-Atlantic for a holiday in July and paying the solicitor loads!! Really am worried about our future but I can’t return to a dead
marriage.

Stbx inherited property after the date I’d put down as the separation date - even though we’d been living together in this 2 year period we were in separate rooms and hadn’t had sex (or kissed/hugged) in over a decade. He was happy to live like that probably because of the comfortable lifestyle we had. I was going out alone or with the kids and we were eating separately! It wasn’t a way to live. The OM blew my mind in every way - emotionally, physically etc.

I feel in such a mess but feel selfish at my actions. However, I have only one life.

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Namechanger250 · 23/04/2022 13:12

I am paying a car loan, other loan and saving for holidays funds atm. Plus, £250 an hour to my solicitor so I can’t really afford a counsellor until all of this is over. I could do with one but the damage is done.

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benevernomore · 23/04/2022 13:18

Don't listen to the blamers. You were in a shit situation, decades of a shit marriage, that they can't even begin to imagine. The affair enabled you to leave an utterly dreadful marriage.

Yes, financially you are in a worse situation than you are used to, but you have a good well paid job and can afford to buy another house. You are in a much better situation than many stuck in shit marriages or who leave or are left.

This is your chance to forge a new life and new relationship if you want to.

Maybe you could get another job if there is no way to improve the situation in this one.

Namechanger250 · 23/04/2022 13:27

I think what I’ll miss is the friendship we had. I never wanted to lose that. I should’ve stopped the sexual stuff as he clearly regretted it later. But, I was a massive turn on for him.

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DFOD · 23/04/2022 16:00

Is the timeline that you ended your marriage and then the OM dumped you?

If this is the case it seems that you were “safe” to him when married and became a risk to his marriage (read money) when deciding to separate.

I suspect that the other relationships he had whilst still married where “safely” with other married women.

I can see that this must have blindsided you even if you never expected him to leave his wife. However as others have said maybe see your experience with him as a reawakening of your repressed self which gave you the motivation to leave a suffocating marriage.

It seems that as a family you are all in transition and your DS will come through in time with your empathy, encouragement, love and support so that he comes to acceptance eventually - but your own guilt here (of the affair that he doesn’t know about alongside the decision to end the marriage) might inadvertently stunt this process.

If you can find some inner strength to look ahead and to know that this is an especially testing pinch point for all (exams imminent, divorce negs in full throttle) and know that by the end of the summer, end of the year the road ahead will be clearer and calmer.

Namechanger250 · 23/04/2022 16:19

DFOD · 23/04/2022 16:00

Is the timeline that you ended your marriage and then the OM dumped you?

If this is the case it seems that you were “safe” to him when married and became a risk to his marriage (read money) when deciding to separate.

I suspect that the other relationships he had whilst still married where “safely” with other married women.

I can see that this must have blindsided you even if you never expected him to leave his wife. However as others have said maybe see your experience with him as a reawakening of your repressed self which gave you the motivation to leave a suffocating marriage.

It seems that as a family you are all in transition and your DS will come through in time with your empathy, encouragement, love and support so that he comes to acceptance eventually - but your own guilt here (of the affair that he doesn’t know about alongside the decision to end the marriage) might inadvertently stunt this process.

If you can find some inner strength to look ahead and to know that this is an especially testing pinch point for all (exams imminent, divorce negs in full throttle) and know that by the end of the summer, end of the year the road ahead will be clearer and calmer.

No, I ended my marriage quite a while ago (2020). OM knew about it. It is a genuine case that he felt bad about his behaviour but I don’t think he has considered the effect it has had on me (and, consequently, my marriage).
He confessed a few times that he wasn’t attracted to his wife but he thinks she is a lovely person - hence why he won’t leave (plus, they are very comfortable financially due to inheriting money from both sets of parents). He is very guilty over his behaviour though - always was - and it would hit him the next day (even a naughty phone call). At the end of the day, he shouldn’t have carried on when he knew
I had developed feelings for him and my marriage was clearly deteriorating. Saying that, it has made me realise my marriage was empty emotionally and support wise but I feel extremely stupid that I ended up in a relationship with a married man! When we first started talking I had no intention of ending my marriage - even with the lack of affection/intimacy/sex. My eyes were
opened.

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Namechanger250 · 23/04/2022 16:21

BTW - he has ended it a few times in the early days as he didn’t want to go down that road (and cheat) but it was obvious that we both liked each other a lot and we constantly were brought back together. He always came back and probably will again. However, I want this to stop as it is having a massive effect on my life and mental health.

OP posts:
Namechanger250 · 23/04/2022 16:22

I never expected him to leave her and did start to realise it was all wrong. However, we had tried to be just friends but it was impossible.

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Namechanger250 · 23/04/2022 16:27

My marriage wasn’t dreadful. He didn’t abuse me or anything. It just lacked major parts of a marriage - affection, intimacy, emotional support, sex. We
were nothing more than companions in the end. No spark of conversation between us. I think I’d been suffering for years and hiding my feelings. My mother knew, I think, before she died as she said something to me. I denied it as I knew she was terminally ill. I didn’t want her to worry. Once
my mother was gone I started to feel worse but menopause was fast approaching and I’d probably been peri-menopausal for a while.

I can’t deny that the OM shook my world. He brought me into a world I’d never been in before and it is my heartfelt wish that he hadn’t been married as we got on so well too.

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Namechanger250 · 23/04/2022 16:33

My old boss, who Id known over 10 years, where I used to work said he’d noticed a change in my behaviour (he said this before my marriage ended) and took me to another building at work for a chat.
He asked if my marriage was ok as I was showing signs of being unhappy in my life.
Again, I denied everything but knew I wanted to burst into tears and tell someone. I didn’t.

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Namechanger250 · 23/04/2022 16:49

I knew that I didn’t desire my husband sexually - and had felt like that for years. He was a nice person and had never been horrid or anything but the relationship was seriously lacking lots of things. Mainly, affection, sex and emotional support. He didn’t compliment me when I looked nice. Instead, he would criticise me for things. He laughed at me when I went out on the bike and stuff like that. He never kissed
me as he couldn’t breathe (he was shit at it anyway) and never touched me - even intimately in the early days. Sex was
on and off! Nothing for me. I started to realise. Then, as he got older (he aged quickly), I would feel my stomach churn at the sight of him walking around the bedroom in his Y fronts (I hate Y fronts) with his fat tummy sticking out and his bald head. I cried inside. My soul forever trying to work out why I had married him. And, to keep everyone else happy, I stayed. I never looked at another man. It was menopause that changed me.

The OM would absolutely gaze at me over a cup of tea. He would take my hand and hold it and squeeze it with affection. He would hug me. Put his arms around me and walk with me, around a lake, holding my hand (my husband never had). He would always compliment me on my achievements in life and my body/appearance. He would stop and pull me towards me and kiss me passionately. He would play with me passionately and I won’t go on but use
your imagination. I melted when he held
my hand and squeezed it. He did this numerous times. I felt like welling up with tears. He liked me but knew he’d crossed the line - many times - and something he hadn’t wanted to do. He lost control. One day, when he came back after cutting contact suddenly, I asked him if he hated
me. He said, “I don’t hate you, quite the contrary…that’s the problem!!!!”

I wish things had been different. For us both.

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PriestessofPing · 23/04/2022 17:39

I’m sorry you’ve had a rough time but nothing you say describes to me a life in tatters. You finally left a marriage that wasn’t working for you. You still have a job and income which by the sounds of it you could change with all your years of experience. Your kids are not happy about their parents getting divorced but they are coping.

You had a long affair and are hurt that the OM dumped you but frankly that was alexia’s going to happen with something like that.

You have undoubtedly had a tricky time in childhood so maybe you could do with some therapy and if you can’t afford it and holidays maybe prioritise the therapy?

Just seems like you’re focused on all the negatives instead of looking for solutions. How long ago did this five year affair end? Weeks? Months? Or is it sooner than that?

DFOD · 23/04/2022 18:08

It seems that you need someone and somewhere to process the shock, hurt and discombobulating impact of the end of the relationship with the OM as it was secret so you can’t download, talk it out or express emotions of loss and abandonment with family or friends.

It must be hard to keep that hurt under wraps IRL.

A few weeks of therapy might take the sting out otherwise you might turn it all inwards and end up ruminating and emotionally stuck and depressed.

The marriage is over, the finances need sorting, your DCs will settle and your job will evolve as all of these things are external and dynamic but how does your pain get addressed?

coffeeisthebest · 24/04/2022 10:57

Ok so you have experienced passion and you want more of it. That's positive, but not with this joker that you are talking about. You need to accept he is playing with you and walk away. Then you must turn your attention to your own emotional immaturity, which most of us have so don't get defensive, get lots of therapy and then to your child and say sorry to him and accept responsibility that he is aiming at you but you won't accept. Tell him you have been miserable for years but didn't have the balls to leave before and now you have made a mess which you are going to try and put right. Tell him not to throw away exams and university because he is angry at you, ask him to forgive you and tell him to learn to be an adult in a way you haven't done yet. Don't drag him into your drama, stop using him as a go between and learn to communicate with your ex separately from your children. Learn to sit in the discomfort of that. Please use this time to reassess. Ask yourself why you are obsessed with an available man, better yet take that question to therapy.

coffeeisthebest · 24/04/2022 10:58

An unavailable man I meant!

DFOD · 24/04/2022 12:25

coffeeisthebest · 24/04/2022 10:57

Ok so you have experienced passion and you want more of it. That's positive, but not with this joker that you are talking about. You need to accept he is playing with you and walk away. Then you must turn your attention to your own emotional immaturity, which most of us have so don't get defensive, get lots of therapy and then to your child and say sorry to him and accept responsibility that he is aiming at you but you won't accept. Tell him you have been miserable for years but didn't have the balls to leave before and now you have made a mess which you are going to try and put right. Tell him not to throw away exams and university because he is angry at you, ask him to forgive you and tell him to learn to be an adult in a way you haven't done yet. Don't drag him into your drama, stop using him as a go between and learn to communicate with your ex separately from your children. Learn to sit in the discomfort of that. Please use this time to reassess. Ask yourself why you are obsessed with an available man, better yet take that question to therapy.

Why has the OP made a mess?

It seems to me that she gave her all to children and family despite a very cold, unsupportive and emotionally unfulfilling husband. She did the right thing to end the marriage. How it was handled we don’t know and maybe that’s the bit for reflection? But that can always be repaired.

I agree though that vacillating between pining for the OM and blaming him is draining and preoccupying her and distracting her of the immediate priority which to support the DCs through the transition and agree that investing in quality professional emotional support could take get them through.

Not clear if anyone in the family is aware of the affair.

TheCurrywurstPrion · 24/04/2022 12:56

I don’t have any practical advice, but I left a couple of years ago and am just beginning to tackle the financial fallout and am finding it shockingly bruising, after years of a dead marriage, where numbness had set in, rather than conflict.

I’m also stuck in a job that gives financial security and convenience, but which I don’t like. It crossed my mind only yesterday, that there were things I was hoping for and trying to work towards that were causing me stress, and that perhaps while all the turmoil of divorcing is under way, I can stop and tread water for a while, then start to make things better once my financial situation is clearer and I know where I am.

My natural inclination would be not to push too much about money, partly to demonstrate that I don’t need him, but a friend advised me a while back, as someone advised you upthread, you only go through this once, so get the very best deal you can. Her husband had walked away, years before, and not fought for his share, and very much regretted it later as it had an impact on the rest of his life. I’m not sure I’ll get anything, because I’m in such a mess, but I’ve belatedly realised this is the time and I have to try.

The main thing I wanted to say is that I’d hoped everything would quickly be better and am shocked by how awful the disentangling process is, but that hopefully, things will gradually get better with time. As more and more things get settled, hopefully we will both find the headspace to tackle the things we have no room for right now.

So good luck.

coffeeisthebest · 24/04/2022 13:19

DFOD · 24/04/2022 12:25

Why has the OP made a mess?

It seems to me that she gave her all to children and family despite a very cold, unsupportive and emotionally unfulfilling husband. She did the right thing to end the marriage. How it was handled we don’t know and maybe that’s the bit for reflection? But that can always be repaired.

I agree though that vacillating between pining for the OM and blaming him is draining and preoccupying her and distracting her of the immediate priority which to support the DCs through the transition and agree that investing in quality professional emotional support could take get them through.

Not clear if anyone in the family is aware of the affair.

I only use the word mess as she has said that her life is in tatters in the title of her thread.

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