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Major dilemma over moving in with boyfriend

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Redleavesfalling289 · 09/04/2022 15:17

I've been with my boyfriend about six years & during this time we've lived in the same place and separate places. I went to uni for three years, so that was long distance. We were then in the same city again for about a year, then he had to move as his DM was dying. A few months after this I'd moved to London for a job & now I'm in the South-East. Since around the time of lockdown I started to struggle more with the long-distance & was jealous of couples that could 'move in' together as they were local. We didn't see each other until the whole bubble thing was introduced.

We've talked about him moving here, but he's reluctant because a) He has a business which is based where he currently lives. Though it's worth saying this business has been doing very poorly for the last few years & he's thinking of winding it down 2) He currently lives with his brother, who has disabilities, doesn't and probably can't work. They don't get on at all, but his DM said on her death bed that he must promise to look after said brother.

To add to the complications, I had been thinking of buying a flat in the South East, as want to get on the property ladder. I have been looking at different areas. The plan is obviously for him to move in with me, but then he recently asked if I could move to the South West where he's based, as my job is permanently remote with just the odd trip into the office. I hadn't even considered this till recently - though am reluctant as have some friends here & I like having easy access to London. Plus houses are likely to retain value a bit more due to said proximity. I feel like if he ends up winding his business down, it would make more sense for him to move here as he'd be doing a 9-5. But whenever he talks about it he says he feels stuck due to the responsibility of his brother, who the benefits office are now trying to get off benefits. The brother is also occasionally involved with the business, though mostly uses it as a storage unit. Partner has been SE most of his life and detests the thought of working for someone else.

We see each other between 8-10 days a month usually & spent two weeks at Christmas together & I'm really starting to struggle with living apart. Mostly the lack of spontaneity in the relationship & obviously the fact we're physically apart a lot of the time. I live alone so it can get quite lonely. It's got to the stage where it's really affecting me mentally, and I'm bringing it up every time we speak on the phone. I'm seeing him over Easter, so going to try and have a sensible discussion. I feel like the options are:

A) Break up
B) He moves here
C) I move there

I feel like breaking up would not be a good option for me mentally at the moment, as I'm quite isolated and struggle with mental health. But equally, should I have to put plans such as buying a flat on hold because he's too scared to tell his brother he's leaving? I know one of us is going to have to compromise, but it's tricky as there's no compromise where we can meet in the middle really.

Any thoughts?

OP posts:
AgentJohnson · 09/04/2022 16:31

If breaking up is really not an option for you then you either move or stay put. The status quo is you not living together, as the person wanting the change, you are the one who has to make the decision. Good luck

Redleavesfalling289 · 09/04/2022 16:34

@MrsMoastyToasty

I think it depends on where I the south west he is based and how often you need to travel to London and the south east. If it's somewhere like Bristol or Bath then it's not too much of a problem. Thousands commute by train to the capital from these 2 cities (takes about an hour and a half). Obviously if it's somewhere obscure like Ryme Intinseca or Nepnett Thrubwell (real place names) or really far away like St Austell, then it needs further consideration.
Hi, it'd be about a 2hr commute & I'd need to go into London about once per month.
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beastlyslumber · 09/04/2022 16:34

If the thought of breaking up makes you feel suicidal, that isn't healthy. You can't depend on another person so much for your mental health and stability. A partner should enhance your life, not be your life. If you stay together feeling this way, you will always be vulnerable to his control, as he can simply threaten to break up with you in order to get his way, or hint that he's not happy.

I think that you can postpone this decision while you do some work on your mental health.

lemongreentea · 09/04/2022 16:35

I'm sorry OP. Please contact your GP if you feel that way.

Do you have any friends you can confide in who will be supportive? I know for sure if a friend fely suicidal I would want them to call me.

Keep talking here, there a lot of wise women here who give good advice Flowers

ChairCareOh · 09/04/2022 16:36

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Redleavesfalling289 · 09/04/2022 16:39

@ChairCareOh

Very cruel of his mother to make him responsible for his brother in her death bed.

I think your best option is to move on with your life without him.

His mother unfortunately could be a cruel, quite manipulative woman at times. He has other siblings but she always made him feel like he was the one responsible for them.
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DragonOverTheMoon · 09/04/2022 16:39

I really think you need some MH support if the thought of breaking up gives you suicidal thoughts/ideation. Thats not normal OP.

I don't think you should move closer. I think you should buy the property You want to buy in the area You want to live in and make a great life for Yourself. I put a capital on the You on purpose. Why should anyone else value you if you don't value yourself? Why should anyone make your life better if you won't even make your own life better?

Redleavesfalling289 · 09/04/2022 16:43

@lemongreentea

I'm sorry OP. Please contact your GP if you feel that way.

Do you have any friends you can confide in who will be supportive? I know for sure if a friend fely suicidal I would want them to call me.

Keep talking here, there a lot of wise women here who give good advice Flowers

Thank you. I do have close friends, although we've all been quite scattered since university. I'm sociable, but haven't really made any new friends since the pandemic with everything being remote.

Although I'm close to family, they live 100s of miles away. I actually moved partially due to an issue in my family that means living with them isn't possible.

I think I feel very isolated as have no one local who I can rely on.

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MySecretHistory · 09/04/2022 16:47

After 6 years if you are not living together there is not future
Spilt up and move on

ScrollingLeaves · 09/04/2022 16:47

Why not buy a property you like in the SE, then let it out for 6 months.
Then go to te SW and rent a flat with DP and see what you think?

Hold on to flat in SE through thick and thin.

MySecretHistory · 09/04/2022 16:48

@ScrollingLeaves

Why not buy a property you like in the SE, then let it out for 6 months. Then go to te SW and rent a flat with DP and see what you think?

Hold on to flat in SE through thick and thin.

You cant rent unless a BTL and you usually need a much larger deposit
lemongreentea · 09/04/2022 16:51

That sounds really tough OP Flowers

I do agree with other posters that a relationship is supposed to enhance our lives but that lack of one shouldnt cause us depair as we should be enough by ourselves. Consider postponing any decisions about this until you have the opportunity to work on your mental and emotional health.

Redleavesfalling289 · 09/04/2022 16:52

@ScrollingLeaves

Why not buy a property you like in the SE, then let it out for 6 months. Then go to te SW and rent a flat with DP and see what you think?

Hold on to flat in SE through thick and thin.

It'll be a Shared Ownership property so can't rent it out unfortunately.

As someone suggested above, the one compromise I could do is go and rent with him in the SW. If everything is good, problem solved. But if I feel I'm missing out & want to move back to the South-East, I still have the option.

Sharing would also be good on a practical level, as my rent currently eats up 60% of my income.

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Redleavesfalling289 · 09/04/2022 16:54

Sorry, I meant go and rent with him in the SW for six months or so, to see how it goes and if I like the area. It is a beautiful part of the country.

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2bazookas · 09/04/2022 16:56

I doubt he's able to leave his brother. Unless you want to spend your life under the same roof as his brother I don't see a future for you and DP.

ScrollingLeaves · 09/04/2022 16:58

You cant rent unless a BTL and you usually need a much larger deposit

I may not be up to date with current rules, but I thought you could let out your own principal dwelling for up to a certain amount of time. After all, people often need to go away for work but don’t want to sell their home if the work is temporary.

If OP decided to stay in SW could she not change to Buy to let at that point?

FinallyHere · 09/04/2022 16:59

Brother insists on bf keeping the business running even though it's failing. My bf would like to hand-over the business to the brother, so he's free of it all, but the brother can't afford to run it himself.

Any operation which needs to be subsidised is not actually a business, it's a hobby. It's hardly fair for the brother to 'insist' on being subsidised in this way.

Please, get some real help for your mental health before you make any decisions about where and how to live your life

Redleavesfalling289 · 09/04/2022 17:00

On my mental health. Like a lot of people, lockdown truly f'd it up for me. I was isolated for months on end and went through multiple job losses. Pre lockdown I'd never suffered from suicidal ideation or poor mental health. Haven't been the same since.

I have had some CBT & I also tried anti-depressants. These turned me into an emotional zombie. When I moved to my own little flat in the SE my mental health improved so much I was able to get off them. Only gone back to feeling this low the last few weeks. This might sound very odd, but my mental health is always worse in Spring/Summer than autumn/winter.

I'll try the GP again but the provisions available are a total postcode lottery.

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ScrollingLeaves · 09/04/2022 17:01

Sorry OP I hadn’t read your update about how your flat would be shared ownership and letting it out wouldn’t be allowed. ( So what are people supposed to do if they go away for several months on a short work contract? Not fair imo)

LittleOwl153 · 09/04/2022 17:04

The fact that you dont feel ready to move to his area despite it being financially better for you speaks volumes. You are not ready for what he is offering something is holding you back.

Given your mental health I think some counselling would be a good option for you as it sounds as though there are all sorts of things going on!

BOOTS52 · 09/04/2022 17:05

I think just have a good long calm talk with him and come to a compromise for you both. He is been very good as he is a good brother to the brother who needs the support so this will always have to be his priority. Also I would talk to someone about how you feel so low and think you cannot cope without him. This sounds like something you can work on and you are living independently for so long anyway. Talk to him and see what you both come up with that can help you both and if not then you will have to move on as you are not happy living this way anymore. You may meet someone who wants the same things as you in life and you sound young and have your whole life ahead of you. What will be will be and this may be the conversation that changes it all. You will know if he feels the same and wants the same for your future.

godmum56 · 09/04/2022 17:25

I think you are making your mental health dependent on what your BF decides which is NEVER a good idea. You are already a hostage to his choices if the thought of being without him makes you suicidal.

lemongreentea · 09/04/2022 17:36

Agree about total postcode lottery. It sucks.

Do you have any idea why spring/summer is worse for you? Could it be because autumn/winter is typcially a time when people hide away at home due to the cold/rain and dark nights whereas the summer days are longer and everyone is out and about which makes it more obvious to (yourself) that you arent?

Just try to bear in mind things usually work out in the end. I know that sounds flippant but in my experience its usually true, even if its not the outcome we think we wanted. Take one day at a time Flowers

watcherintherye · 09/04/2022 17:41

I’m sorry if I’ve missed this, op, but does your dp rent with his brother, or does their home belong to one or both of them?

sunshinesupermum · 09/04/2022 17:46

Please, please get some therapy before making a monumental decision like moving to where your boyfriend lives. After which you can make a rational decision which I hope will be to buy your own home in the southeast which is where you appear to wish to stay?