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How should a relationship look if you don't live together?

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Cupcake00 · 06/04/2022 12:52

I have been married and divorced. I went back to university and worked really hard to build a career to be financially secure (I had alot of debt after I separated from my dcs dad). Bought a house last year after a very difficult few years and finally feeling secure financially. I'm a single parent so obviously money is still tight.
Met someone at work who lives with his mum due to separating from his dcs mum.
I knew he was struggling with debt when we first met. I could understand the difficulty as I had been there. We have been dating just over a year and he is still with his mum. He has secured his debt into one debt only to help him by financially. He often says, he will never be able to afford to move out of his mums as rent is so high. Or until he no longer has to pay maintenance. Its completely his business and I have continued to date him. However, recently I have started to think about the future. Would the next step be living together. If not then is there a future. I have a few niggles and question what relationships should look like if not living together.
He gambles, says its just 5 pound a month. He also smokes and enjoys a few drinks when watching football, which is probably every other week. He doesn't drive so I drive if we ever go anywhere (not that we do). Again, completely up to him how he chooses to spend his money and live his life. He mainly comes over, twice a week. I cook and he gets a taxi home. I then feel guilty for him to pay taxi fayres but I'm not comfortable with him staying over. Should I be a year on?
I haven't met his dcs yet as his ex does not want me to. I'm not sure she ever will.
He's a really kind person and would do anything for me if I asked him. He often tells me how lucky he is. I have dated in the past and I know how difficult it is to find someone genuinely kind.

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theleafandnotthetree · 12/04/2022 12:45

@Cupcake00

I'm not sure I want to get out there dating again, it's hard. I honestly think this will be the end and I will be alone. I'm early 40's. It gets harder with age, don't you think?
Jesus woman, early 40s is nothing! People fall in love and start relationships at all ages. I think, if you don't mind me saying so, that you have a bit of a downbeat, defeatist attitude. The right person with the right spark might jolt you out of that, I just don't this guy is that guy.
Cupcake00 · 12/04/2022 13:20

Oh, really? I do apologise, I don't mean to come across that way.
I'm feeling a bit fed up.
I appreciate all of these messages.

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Cupcake00 · 12/04/2022 13:25

No, I don't really fancy him. I can't remember actually fancying someone. He's good looking.

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DatingAWidower22 · 12/04/2022 13:33

Ok OP. So you don’t fancy him, you don’t want to live with him, he’s lazy, not interested in doing anything with you? Am I right? Time will I live in from this one.

There are good ones I promise, you just have to keep looking and get rid as soon as you have any doubts.

He wants to move in with you, rent free, be waited on etc… NOPE!

theleafandnotthetree · 12/04/2022 13:46

@Cupcake00

Oh, really? I do apologise, I don't mean to come across that way. I'm feeling a bit fed up. I appreciate all of these messages.
If that was in response to me saying you seemed a bit downbeat and defeatist, I genuinely wasn't trying to have a go or make you feel worse. But it's not clear why you want to be in ANY relationship really at the moment, you don't yourself seem to have that drive that is needed to rev the thing up, which means the other person would have to have a lot more mojo than this bloke has to make this a lively or engaging relationship for either of you. And not ever fancying someone is something to contemplate, that is not really the norm. I am a very cerebral overthinking kind of person but even I think - and know from my own experience - that it is the sexual spark, the wanting to fling your arms qround someone that gives momentum to a relationship early on at least. You can't talk yourself into feeling it, it has to just be there..
Cupcake00 · 12/04/2022 14:00

theleafandnotthetree you are right actually. I don't have the drive and I question if this is me or how he is. I do wonder if someone else would help jolt this or if this is just me.
I appreciate your thoughts, thankyou.
Going back to that, I have felt that attraction whilst dating but there has always been other things that have been incompatible with that particular person. I would love to feel that feeling as yes, I believe you're right in saying it gives that momentum.
The more I think about it, the more I think it's unfair on him too as he deserves to have someone feel all of those things.

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Sunshineandflipflops · 12/04/2022 14:16

I don't live with my partner of almost 3 years but that's due to a number of reasons such as kids (mine), financial issues (his) and because I like my own space (as does he).

I don't think a relationship has to "look" any way, as long as you are both happy with it. It doesn't sound like you are though.

Me and my DP lived an hour away from each other and as he doesn't have a car, he made the decision to move to my town and rent here so that the travel wasn't always on me or relying on trains. He is also now insured on my car so shares the driving (and fuel costs) when we are together.

He misses me more than I miss him if I am honest when we don't see each other but then I have my dc when I am not with him and his are grown up. We might live together one day but no plans to at the moment. I am only just going through divorce after 4 years separation so my aim is to own my home in my own name as stability for me and my dc.

It doesn't sound like your partner brings you any joy...rather he is just 'there'?

Cupcake00 · 12/04/2022 15:36

That was my aim too. I hope it all goes well for you. Divorce can be difficult but when you manage to start again, buy again, it feels like quite an achievement. I think that's why I like being alone so much. I have always said, someone needs to be quite special for me to want to let in.
I know there isn't a perfect person.
Thankyou all.

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theleafandnotthetree · 12/04/2022 16:26

@Cupcake00

That was my aim too. I hope it all goes well for you. Divorce can be difficult but when you manage to start again, buy again, it feels like quite an achievement. I think that's why I like being alone so much. I have always said, someone needs to be quite special for me to want to let in. I know there isn't a perfect person. Thankyou all.
You sound lovely OP (and admirably willing to listen to others!). I agree that being alone is great in lots of ways! I hope you have a very lovely life and really hope you DO meet someone who fancy madly and have a great time with and who treats you well. But you might STILL want to be mostly alone and that's a more than legitimate choice, especially when you've achieved so much in rebuilding your life. The great thing about being beyond the family formation stage is that there is no pressure to conform to any one way of having a relationship, it's whatever works for you both. Someone can be very special and still confined to weekends 😘
Cupcake00 · 12/04/2022 17:42

theleafandnotthetree thankyou so much for your kind words. I really appreciate your messages and others here.
A huge part of me does not want to hurt him also. However, I really need to have this talk with him.

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happydivorcee · 12/04/2022 17:55

When I first separated from my ex husband, the first man I dated was 38 years old and lived with his Mum: had never moved out. Didn’t drive. Couldn’t hold down a job. I honestly don’t know what on Earth I was thinking when I look back on that Blush Once that ended (after about a year..!)
I was single/ dating for 2 years and then met my current partner and we have no plans to move in together. At all. That doesn’t mean that we don’t have a future together - we do so much together and are very involved in each other’s lives. What stands out to me is that you and your boyfriend don’t seem to have a life together? My partner doesn’t have children and I have two (early teen and a ten year old) but we still do so much, we go away for weekends (with or without the children), spend all of our weekends busy and just living. I think you need to find someone else; there are lots of kind men who have homes, cars and a bit more zest for life.

Sidge · 12/04/2022 19:38

I don’t live with my boyfriend of 18 months but I think of him as my partner. We make plans together, we plan things together, we spend as much time together as we can around work, kids etc despite being an hour apart by car. I adore him, can’t wait to see him, fancy the pants off him.

We’re in no rush to live together due to logistics, finances and kids. But we still DO stuff. We date.

It doesn’t even sound like you and your boyfriend date - he hangs out with you, he sounds more like another kid than an equal partner, lover, friend. He brings nothing to the table but takes plenty.

I’d be saying goodbye. Find that someone that makes you zing. Oh and early 40s is nothing. My man and I are 50+.

Cupcake00 · 12/04/2022 21:04

All sounds good, glad it works for many.
Today I have had messages telling me how many buses he's been on and how long he has been stood in bus queues and all in all how many hours. To then sending me photos of his next tattoo. I'm irritable now. Before, I would pass it off.
Thanks everyone.

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AntelopeBeau · 12/04/2022 21:37

Gosh your last post about buses and tattoos 😒. You don’t fancy him that much 😕. Where can you go from there really?

Cloverforever · 12/04/2022 21:37

Sounds like youve gained another child OP. You're worth much more than this wet blanket.

Momijin · 13/04/2022 03:10

My 19 year old son has more nouse, ambition and independence than your bf. I'd have no respect for someone like that and wouldn't want to parent a grown adult.

SortingItOut · 13/04/2022 06:49

So he has no money so you don't do anything but he is having a tattoo - you do know how much these cost.

I think we know his priorities in life.....

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