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I can't love you the way you deserve ...

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Stickingstickers2022 · 31/03/2022 11:21

I apologise for how long this turned out and thank you anyone who reads it.
What does this really mean? My boyfriend of two years said this last night when he was breaking up with me. I've sensed something hasn't been right for a while and I pushed the issue. About a week ago he said he didn't want to break up with me but wasn't sure about moving forward. We live about an hour apart but manage to see each other at least four days a week, sometimes seven days a week. He says he still loves me. I asked him to say he didn't because it would make it easier for me to understand. He said he didn't think he could commit to me or possibly to anyone. He's thirty-six and has had a series of long-term relationships all of which end because he says something didn't feel right from the beginning and he just stayed. In September I thought we were going to break up and then we had a conversation where he asked why I didn't seem to want to move things on since I was in my late 30s and we ended up deciding we would move in together and plan on having a child. We'd had a similar conversation three months before that where we didn't discuss children but he said he wasn't ready for me to move in with him and he would 'see how it goes over the summer'. This is a bit confused, I know. I suppose I just want someone to make me feel okay about being single in my late 30s. I thought he was the one when we met. I had this feeling that I'd met my husband. Absurd I know now. The big problem in our relationship has been that when we're with his family and friends we speak my second language and I struggle a bit to keep up and get quite nervous and a bit awkward because sometimes I lose track completely of the conversation. The first time I met his family we'd been together about four months and I was very nervous and he was just very off with me after it. It felt like anger to me but he calls it frustration, which just made every social encounter after it very stressful. Everytime we did something with friends, he would go a bit cold on me. I'd text to say good morning and he wouldn't reply for three hours, that kind of thing. We were having less and less sex. Last night I asked him if he'd gone off me since we hadn't had sex since January. He just said that sex is psychological, which I think was his way of saying yes he has gone off me. In the conversation we had a week ago I suggested I leave because we were in his place and that we take time to think about it but he didn't want to. I slept on the sofa that night because I couldn't sleep and when he woke up he thought I'd gone and was really upset. He did say that he knew he wasn't being nice to me, that if I treated him the way he treated me that he'd have been very angry a long time ago, but that he didn't know if he could be nice to me. He also said no one had ever been as good and kind to him as I had. He also said things about being cold and broken inside. He was very upset when he left. It was hard for me to see him cry.

I don't know what I'm asking. Just, how to see this. Does 'I can't love you the way you deserve' really mean 'I don't love you but don't want to hurt you'. Any words of wisdom or advice on how to get over this would be great. I know some people might think it was only two years but it was two years of constant contact and during lockdown we spent every minute together. So far I haven't contacted him. I'm still a bit in shock. If you've read all this, thank you :)

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noirchatsdeux · 31/03/2022 11:44

It's a way of saying 'I don't love you' without actually saying the words.

MrsSkylerWhite · 31/03/2022 11:45

I think he was trying to end it kindly. He doesn’t love you 💐

Birkenshock · 31/03/2022 11:48

I've ended my last two relationships with similar sound bites - I just wasn't feeling it, I didn't love them. And that's a very hard thing to say to someone when you've been with them a while and don't want to hurt them, and you don't want to be the "bad guy", so it's much easier to act as if you're being kind and thinking of them by saying "you can do better, you can find someone who can give you everything you need", than it is to say "I don't fancy you anymore"

layladomino · 31/03/2022 11:48

As pp said.

There are 2 ways of looking at it:

  1. He's telling the truth and he can't love you the way you deserve - so you're better off without him.
  2. He's lying and dumping you in a cowardly way - so you're better off without him.

He clearly wasn't a great bf anyway, from what you've said.

And there is no shame in being single in your 30s. You are a grown up, ready for a grown up relationship. He isn't. That's on him. You've just been unfortunate enough to become entangled with someone who isn't up to having a mature relationship.

There are mature men out there, you're far too young to lose hope of that!

DorotheaHomeAlone · 31/03/2022 11:59

He feels love for you but has too many issue to love you in a meaningful, building a life way. Honestly, he has made it clear that he is not equipped to be a good and loving partner to you. When someone says stuff like this you should ALWAYS believe them. You should honestly thank him and let go. There is no happy ending with this one.

gannett · 31/03/2022 12:31

I've said this, it was when I truly respected someone and wanted the best for them, but I knew I couldn't give them a decent relationship - I was still emotionally closed off, I couldn't commit to anything, I didn't feel IT.

When you're in that position you do wonder whether it's just the wrong relationship for you, despite the other person ticking a lot of boxes on paper and being a very decent guy - or whether you're cold and broken and incapable of love yourself.

Watchkeys · 31/03/2022 12:34

There's no hidden meaning. He's saying it exactly as it is: you want love as in 'a committed relationship', and he can't give you that.

He doesn't sound very sorted, and you seem to think that being in a bit of shock is something we wouldn't expect you to be in. Don't contact him unless you have something to say regarding your single life, not for a while anyway. Give yourself a week or two to let the shock wear off, and then you can work out how you really feel. Spend the time doing lovely, respectful things for yourself, and resting; shock's exhausting.

Templeblossom · 31/03/2022 12:38

Hmmm
"I dont love you the way you deserve" is usually.
" Ive got my eye on someone else but I want you to be to blame for being demanding"

Tamworth123 · 31/03/2022 13:07

Seems like just a nice, gentle way of saying he doesn't love you and qaboos to end the relationship.

It sounds like you're the latest in a line that he doesn't feel the "right" way about.

(The 2nd language thing shouldn't have mattered, so many ppl have long term relationships and marriages with partners who aren't perfectly fluent in their second language).

Notwithittoday · 31/03/2022 13:09

It’s over. Move on.

coffeeisthebest · 31/03/2022 18:08

It's over. He has some stuff that sounds pretty intense and probably you dodged a bullet. Mourn it and move on. Whatever he meant by it, it sounds like the relationship is dead.

GaryTheCat · 31/03/2022 18:47

Sounds like there were lots of things that were off, your felt it was over and it is.

I’m sorry, OP. Flowers

AndSoFinally · 31/03/2022 19:01

It's a fairly meek platitude for when you want to end things but dont want to be mean or to give the real reason.

Read also: "it's not you, it's me" and "I just don't deserve someone as amazing as you"

CheekyHobson · 01/04/2022 04:53

He said he didn't think he could commit to me or possibly to anyone.

He did say that he knew he wasn't being nice to me, that if I treated him the way he treated me that he'd have been very angry a long time ago, but that he didn't know if he could be nice to me.

He also said things about being cold and broken inside.

These three quotes are all you need to focus on.

He's telling you who he is, and you need to take him seriously or you will be on a hiding to nothing.

He sounds like he's got some very severe problems. I'd put money on childhood abuse that he has never had treatment for. He sounds extremely emotionally numbed/damaged. That is, of course, sad. He looks and sounds sad about it, because it must be painful but hard as this is to hear, it's not your job to fix it, and YOU CAN'T. He has to decide that all by himself.

The very healthiest thing you can do for both of you is take him at his word, tell him it sounds as though he has some serious emotional problems to deal with and that you believe therapy might help, and you hope he gets the help he needs. Not in a mean way, in a kind way.

Then do your very best to put him out of your mind and focus on yourself.

Stickingstickers2022 · 01/04/2022 10:23

Thank you to everyone who replied. I just don't have the strength to reply individually but I'm very grateful for the advice. I know everyone is right and it means he didn't love me. I just can't get my head around the fact that he would tell me he loved me quite a lot, and up until the day before we broke up. He would do things like roll over in the bed and sniff where I'd been and say it was wonderful because the sheets smelled like me. He would sniff my hair and say how much he loved my smell etc, and hug me all the time. Maybe these are all signs of attachment rather than love. I don't know. Someone mentioned his childhood and I know his father was quite harsh, but not abusive. He said his sister is a nervous wreck because of how his dad treated them. He said he wasn't affected by it but I did notice this intolerance of anyone being a bit shy or nervous or of doing things other people might not approve of. But that's me just looking for reasons I think so I can tell myself he didn't just fall out of love with me. He told me he would have been happy to just let things continue the way they were going and not make any plans for the future but I don't really understand how you wouldn't want to plan for the future. I suppose that's another sign he wasn't really into it.
Anyway, I shouldn't be adding to the thread, I should try to move on. I just don't know how right now.
Thank you Flowers

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5128gap · 01/04/2022 12:22

OP, he has done you a favour. If the person you are in a relationship with doesn't love you enough, then you are being badly short changed, as there are others out there who will. You are now free to find one of them. I'm sure he would have been happy enough to carry on, but that far less than you deserve. Its really difficult now, but there are few people who haven't been in your position, because many relationships don't go the full distance, for lots of reasons. Most people recover, and eventually end up in a new relationship which makes them wonder what they ever saw in the previous one.

CheekyHobson · 01/04/2022 18:18

Someone mentioned his childhood and I know his father was quite harsh, but not abusive. He said his sister is a nervous wreck because of how his dad treated them. He said he wasn't affected by it but I did notice this intolerance of anyone being a bit shy or nervous or of doing things other people might not approve of.

People don't usually end up nervous wrecks unless they've been treated abusively.

Your ex describing his father as "harsh" but not abusive is probably a denial mechanism (as is saying that he wasn't affected). He might suffer from disorganized attachment, which can alternate between clingy and rejecting. This is especially likely to fuck with the head of the person on the receiving end.

HellToTheNope · 01/04/2022 18:20

He's done you a massive favour. Move on.

Stickingstickers2022 · 02/04/2022 09:30

@5128gap

OP, he has done you a favour. If the person you are in a relationship with doesn't love you enough, then you are being badly short changed, as there are others out there who will. You are now free to find one of them. I'm sure he would have been happy enough to carry on, but that far less than you deserve. Its really difficult now, but there are few people who haven't been in your position, because many relationships don't go the full distance, for lots of reasons. Most people recover, and eventually end up in a new relationship which makes them wonder what they ever saw in the previous one.
Thank you. It's reassuring to think that one day I might meet someone else.
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Stickingstickers2022 · 02/04/2022 09:33

@CheekyHobson

Someone mentioned his childhood and I know his father was quite harsh, but not abusive. He said his sister is a nervous wreck because of how his dad treated them. He said he wasn't affected by it but I did notice this intolerance of anyone being a bit shy or nervous or of doing things other people might not approve of.

People don't usually end up nervous wrecks unless they've been treated abusively.

Your ex describing his father as "harsh" but not abusive is probably a denial mechanism (as is saying that he wasn't affected). He might suffer from disorganized attachment, which can alternate between clingy and rejecting. This is especially likely to fuck with the head of the person on the receiving end.

This is interesting because I've been thinking so much the past few days about how sometimes it felt like I was in love with a brick wall and other times he was so affectionate and loving. I was getting very down thinking there was something wrong with me and I couldn't connect to him or anyone. I've realised he's been rejecting me on and off pretty much our entire relationship. It's a hard thing to realise.
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Anthurium · 02/04/2022 09:56

Would you consider going a it alone with a sperm donor? If you want children you really ought to get yourself to a (private) fertility clinic or to the GPs and do some fertility tests. You don't really have time to waste as I'm sure you're aware of it.

IdblowJonSnow · 02/04/2022 10:02

Sorry uoure going through this op. Those saying 'move on' are quite right but that's easier said than done.

Of course you should give yourself time to grieve. It does sound like it's him and not you.

Flowers
Stickingstickers2022 · 02/04/2022 17:41

@Anthurium I've started to think about it but I just don't think I could manage it alone. I know it works for lots of women but I don't have my family around me and really would be doing it alone. I'm going to give it more thought though and see what's involved.

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Stickingstickers2022 · 02/04/2022 17:44

@IdblowJonSnow Thanks. I know I have to move on, of course I do, but as you say, it's not that easy. It's only been three days. I'm still trying to get my head around it, blaming myself for everything and for messing it up, hoping he contacts me etc.

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Grumpasaurusrex · 02/04/2022 17:48

UGH I HATE it when men do this. The ultimate cop out. Make out like they're sooo deep and complicated and damaged and so can't POSSIBLY commit to you FOR YOUR OWN SAKE of course 🙄 don't buy this nonsense. Don't even contact him again. Move on and ignore. He's an idiot and a dishonest one at that