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I can't love you the way you deserve ...

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Stickingstickers2022 · 31/03/2022 11:21

I apologise for how long this turned out and thank you anyone who reads it.
What does this really mean? My boyfriend of two years said this last night when he was breaking up with me. I've sensed something hasn't been right for a while and I pushed the issue. About a week ago he said he didn't want to break up with me but wasn't sure about moving forward. We live about an hour apart but manage to see each other at least four days a week, sometimes seven days a week. He says he still loves me. I asked him to say he didn't because it would make it easier for me to understand. He said he didn't think he could commit to me or possibly to anyone. He's thirty-six and has had a series of long-term relationships all of which end because he says something didn't feel right from the beginning and he just stayed. In September I thought we were going to break up and then we had a conversation where he asked why I didn't seem to want to move things on since I was in my late 30s and we ended up deciding we would move in together and plan on having a child. We'd had a similar conversation three months before that where we didn't discuss children but he said he wasn't ready for me to move in with him and he would 'see how it goes over the summer'. This is a bit confused, I know. I suppose I just want someone to make me feel okay about being single in my late 30s. I thought he was the one when we met. I had this feeling that I'd met my husband. Absurd I know now. The big problem in our relationship has been that when we're with his family and friends we speak my second language and I struggle a bit to keep up and get quite nervous and a bit awkward because sometimes I lose track completely of the conversation. The first time I met his family we'd been together about four months and I was very nervous and he was just very off with me after it. It felt like anger to me but he calls it frustration, which just made every social encounter after it very stressful. Everytime we did something with friends, he would go a bit cold on me. I'd text to say good morning and he wouldn't reply for three hours, that kind of thing. We were having less and less sex. Last night I asked him if he'd gone off me since we hadn't had sex since January. He just said that sex is psychological, which I think was his way of saying yes he has gone off me. In the conversation we had a week ago I suggested I leave because we were in his place and that we take time to think about it but he didn't want to. I slept on the sofa that night because I couldn't sleep and when he woke up he thought I'd gone and was really upset. He did say that he knew he wasn't being nice to me, that if I treated him the way he treated me that he'd have been very angry a long time ago, but that he didn't know if he could be nice to me. He also said no one had ever been as good and kind to him as I had. He also said things about being cold and broken inside. He was very upset when he left. It was hard for me to see him cry.

I don't know what I'm asking. Just, how to see this. Does 'I can't love you the way you deserve' really mean 'I don't love you but don't want to hurt you'. Any words of wisdom or advice on how to get over this would be great. I know some people might think it was only two years but it was two years of constant contact and during lockdown we spent every minute together. So far I haven't contacted him. I'm still a bit in shock. If you've read all this, thank you :)

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Eesha · 02/04/2022 17:53

Hi Op,

I'm going through something similar with a partner of a very short time but I saw similarities in your story as my partner was a survivor of severe abuse and also swung from being quite besotted to being distant towards the end as I don't believe he could cope with life's stresses and felt better to be alone. I wonder if this is what your partner means by saying this. He's broken inside and wants a relationship like normal people but realises later that he can't give it all to you. I don't know the answer but hope you can find some peace.

urbanbuddha · 02/04/2022 17:57

It doesn't sound he would have been the best father. His own father does sound abusive. "I can"t love you the way you deserve" is probably true is this case.
It's hard and painful but you have to move on.

chisanunian · 02/04/2022 18:01

Someone mentioned his childhood and I know his father was quite harsh, but not abusive. He said his sister is a nervous wreck because of how his dad treated them

Oh he was abusive all right.

Tiredmamaaa · 02/04/2022 18:20

I’m sorry you are going through this, it must be really hard Flowers

To me it sounds like he does love you, has loved you your full relationship but struggles with commitment.

You’ve said he has had a string of long term relationships but he always ends them, the conversation about moving forward and then when you take that step, he retracts. It sounds like he struggles to commit.

I honestly think he does sound like he loves and cares for you, but he just can’t commit to one person for the rest of his life yet. Maybe he never will be able to.

I hope you are ok Flowers

Momijin · 02/04/2022 19:01

It's not you, it's him. He's emotionally unavailable and treats each girlfriend the same.

Raise your standards and don't bend over backwards to accommodate unreasonable behaviour.

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Stickingstickers2022 · 03/04/2022 10:20

@tiredmamaaa Thank you, He did tell me almost a year ago that he always has doubts in relationships. He said it to me when he raised the issue of me not fitting in well with his friends and family. Half of me thinks it's all my fault and the other half thinks it was inevitable from the outset.

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AdamRyan · 03/04/2022 10:25

Read the book "attached" by Rachel Heller and Amir Levine.
This is him not you, but also not conscious by him, it's a result of his early childhood.
Maybe if you can get him to also read it, you can move on together? (If that's what you want)

Tiredmamaaa · 03/04/2022 10:29

Please don’t think it’s your fault. You sound lovely and you shouldn’t have to change who you are for someone to love you. It really does sound to me that it wouldn’t matter even if you did change who you were, he sounds like he would always back away from commitment 😔 you have done nothing wrong and I think he knows that and is saying that without saying it in the way he is speaking, if that makes sense. He doesn’t want to hurt you because you don’t deserve that.

Fraaahnces · 03/04/2022 10:33

I went out with someone like this a million years ago. Absolutely hooked on him. Looking back now he was an absolute psychopath.

willowbough · 03/04/2022 10:39

Just a way of letting down gently.

TheBigDilemma · 03/04/2022 10:46

Honestly OP, what you wrote about the last year is the perfect example of a relationship that has run its course but is getting you both more frustrated because neither of you found the courage to end it.

The line “I cannot love you the way you deserve” is a way to end up kindly, don’t pushback on that or ever think of trying to convince him that what he was offering was enough. It is just a line, not even a lie, he has just said it is over.

The main problem however is this “I suppose I just want someone to make me feel okay about being single in my late 30s.” while you are putting your happiness on the hands of other people, you are not going to be able to find or build a good relationship. You can only build a nice, healthy, balanced relationship when you are happy with yourself and love the life you had.

TheBigDilemma · 03/04/2022 10:47

Have, not had.

Lovinglife45 · 03/04/2022 10:55

I would take this as "I love you but I am not in love with you".

I think it is commendable when men can be truthful. Others are cowards and become spiteful or even abusive in the hope that you will end things. This happened to me and was far more damaging than if my ex had told me he wanted to end things. I was humiliated and traumatised as I knew exactly what he was doing.

Lovinglife45 · 03/04/2022 10:58

Another ex (over 18 years ago) gave me a shit line that he was planning to work abroad and could not commit to relationship. I can confirm that he has never worked abroad and lives with his wife and children less than 20 miles from me. I just knew he was misleading me at the time. It felt awful at the time.

Foreverhope1 · 04/04/2022 12:55

Hey StickingSticker,

I'm sorry you're going through this, I know it must hurt and you'll need to do some self reflection which is absolutely normal.

By what you have shared and the others contributing their invaluable advice, I'd say he isn't fully able to love honestly. His desire for approval stacks higher than his actual love for a person. He needs to do the work to become emotionally aware, as it seems as if he's coasting along blindly ... whilst hurting people in the process.

You shouldn't feel as if you're hard to love by the right person. He's not your person and has done you a favour, which I hope you see one day. You sound like a lovely loyal person, you'll get your happy ending soon xx

MardyOldGoth · 04/04/2022 12:58

@Templeblossom

Hmmm "I dont love you the way you deserve" is usually. " Ive got my eye on someone else but I want you to be to blame for being demanding"
Thank you! I thought I was the only cynic here for a while! I'd translate it as 'I want to dump you without being the bad guy so I'm going to make it your fault.'
Musttryharder2021 · 05/04/2022 16:17

@Lovinglife45

Another ex (over 18 years ago) gave me a shit line that he was planning to work abroad and could not commit to relationship. I can confirm that he has never worked abroad and lives with his wife and children less than 20 miles from me. I just knew he was misleading me at the time. It felt awful at the time.
This is awful @Lovinglife45
Lovinglife45 · 05/04/2022 16:58

Musttry
It really was. I knew I was being fobbed off even at the time but went with it as I felt so humiliated. To make matters worse, he is extremely successful as well as his wife. I believe he felt I was out of his league in terms of my then ambition and earning power.

Stickingstickers2022 · 06/04/2022 07:27

@TheBigDilemma Thanks for this. I haven't pushed back at all. It's a week ago today and I haven't tried to contact him. I was torturing myself at one point reading over old messages and I could see he was typing a message to me but he stopped and never sent it. I'm miserable but trying to move on and improve myself. Thank you!

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Stickingstickers2022 · 06/04/2022 07:32

@Eesha I'm sorry to hear what you're going through. My ex has been pretty stressed out over the past year and I can understand that affecting his mood but I'm not going to make excuses for him. He just didn't want to be with me. I hope everything works out for you. No one deserves the push and pull behaviour and I'm not sure there really is ever any excuse for it. Everyone deserves better than that.

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Stickingstickers2022 · 06/04/2022 07:39

@Foreverhope1Thank you for your kind words. I've been thinking so much over the past week and I've begun to realise that that's when things started to crack a little bit, when I wasn't perfect it really bothered him. We actually discussed this as week before we broke up. I told him he cared too much what people thought and that most people probably didn't notice that I wasn't talking as much as everyone else and he agreed saying most people probably didn't care, but he would often be a bit annoyed after social events that my answers had been too short or that I'd try to say something funny that just doesn't translate. Once he told me that people sometimes ask me a question and I just ignored them and I said I obviously didn't hear them and I asked him in future if he would call me and repeat the question so the other person wouldn't think I was rude and he refused saying he didn't want to embarrass the other person. That turned into a bit of a rant. What I wanted to say is, yes, I think one of the issues was approval and I just didn't measure up. Thank you.

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TheBigDilemma · 06/04/2022 07:40

[quote Stickingstickers2022]@TheBigDilemma Thanks for this. I haven't pushed back at all. It's a week ago today and I haven't tried to contact him. I was torturing myself at one point reading over old messages and I could see he was typing a message to me but he stopped and never sent it. I'm miserable but trying to move on and improve myself. Thank you![/quote]
If it helps to avoid the 3 dot torture, I have noticed that in many apps, the three dots appear whether he is typing a message to you or anybody else.

OP, you should write down all those bad things and others that happened as a list on a piece of paper. So you can come back every time you are missing him or when sadness starts making you idealise him.

Be patient and don’t fight the feelings, nobody stops loving anyone on command. Accept you will continue to love him until you don’t, but try to distract yourself when you start thinking of him.

I am sure you would look back at this in a years time and know you have dodged a bullet.

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