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How do people leave their partners when they don't/can't work?

43 replies

okapiokapi · 29/03/2022 14:24

I have earnt my own money since I was 11, I have had both successful businesses and worked as an employee, often doing both at the same time. We moved over 80 miles away from everyone I've ever known 5 years ago whilst I was on maternity leave to a very rural area. I was planning on working in the local primary school once our youngest began nursery and my husband said that he would convert a small room into a working kitchen so that I could set up a small bakery. 11 months after moving we were involved in a car crash and I have been left with a lifelong disability. It's now over 5 years later and the small room is still not finished, plus I can't bake in the same way I once could, so I now require specialist equipment, which we can't afford and there is no funding for.

My dad died less than a year after the car crash and he was my only friend in the world. I'm autistic and working from home was always the long term plan when we moved, but without my husband completing what he started, I'm stuck. He leaves things all over the house and garden and I run around picking up after him, more than our children. I have issues sleeping and I have been sleeping on the sofa for 11 years. I usually lay on 'our' bed every Christmas Eve, so that the kids can see that Santa has been on Christmas morning, but last Christmas Eve my mum came and refused to leave the living room on Christmas Eve, so I had to stand in front of the door to stop them seeing her until she woke up and the Christmas Eve before, I slept on a wooden floor with three of our children because my husband had started ripping up floor boards in their bedroom in September and he still hadn't put new ones down by that point.

I'm stressed by mess, but if you saw our house, you wouldn't believe it. I spend every day cooking from scratch, home educating and cleaning and I'm exhausted. I wash, dry, iron and fold all my husband's clothes and all I ask of him is that he puts his own clothes away, like the adult he is, but when I go upstairs they're thrown on top of cupboards, on the floor or he'll throw them on the bed and kick them down the gap between the bed and the wall. We had lived here over four years before I could unpack my clothes out of the moving boxes, where everyone else's were put in drawers. We bought some drawers and I put my clothes in them and then when my husband ripped up the floorboards, everything was piled in front of them. I couldn't physically move them. In the last five years I have wore probably as many outfits. A couple of months after my dad died, I heard my husband joke to our teenage children that he doesn't have a sex life, because he's married to me. Firstly my Dad had just died, secondly; he's made 'our' bedroom into a hell hole that I can't breath in and lastly; I didn't feel it was appropriate to talk to our kids about that or demonstrate that I'm a joke. Upsettingly; they laughed! I don't have a friend in the world. My mother has made it clear that she wants nothing to do with me and I don't know where to turn.

I can't drive and buses in the area we live in are expensive - no day rovers or discounts. There are no shops for 15 miles and no employers other than farming for about the same distance. I want to do something that I could do from home, but all the work from home jobs seem to involve driving or going out and I have mobility issues. My husband knows I have these issues, but I'm doing more now that I did before and I've had as much as I can take. Every time he has a coffee, he gets a new cup and sticks the other in the sink. I went in the kitchen in the early hours of Saturday morning and saw everything he'd left me to deal with and I've just given up. I haven't done the pots or eaten since Friday until yesterday (Monday) when I ate some crisps. When I feed the kids, I've resorted to using paper plates, because it's all getting too much, which I absolutely hate to do.

I don't have a degree and I'm stuck for what I could do. Could somebody give me ideas of how I can get out of this situation please? I've asked him for a divorce many times over the last few years, but he just ignores me and maybe does the pots but then returns to normal. I don't love him. I resent him. Every time we've had money and I've wanted to learn to drive or start a degree, he has found a use to better himself. The fact that I'm 40 and I can't drive in such an isolated area is very restrictive.

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Bananalanacake · 29/03/2022 14:30

I hope someone will give you a link to the UC website and you can see what benefits you are entitled to. What happens if you suggest getting in a professional to do the floor boards and work you need doing?

okapiokapi · 29/03/2022 14:38

I won't even mention getting anyone in, because we can't afford it. I'm not working and I can't see a way back into working. I can't think what I can do, that doesn't cost money or skills I don't have. I have to move out to claim anything and that's my problem. I can't move out without an income and I can't claim anything without moving out.

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SaxendaSummer · 29/03/2022 14:42

how old are the kids?

are they doing their fair share around the house?

SaxendaSummer · 29/03/2022 14:43

you could contact women aid for some advice

would the children want to move out with you? you are only 40,dont give up!!

Easterbunnyiswindowshopping · 29/03/2022 14:46

Stop doing anything for the lazy fucker.

okapiokapi · 29/03/2022 14:47

They all have chores, two are disabled, but they are picking up my husband's habits and I feel like I'm going mad. Everything I do seems completely pointless. Our disabled children get up in the night, every night and he sleeps through it all. Every illness they've had whether I've worked 120+
(no, that's not a typo) weeks whilst pregnant with our second child or I've not worked, he hasn't stayed up with any of them

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Easterbunnyiswindowshopping · 29/03/2022 14:50

Can you claim any benefits for your ill health? For your dc? Can you get on a housing list? Ask at the council of any household grants you may be able to apply for.

okapiokapi · 29/03/2022 14:50

@SaxendaSummer

you could contact women aid for some advice

would the children want to move out with you? you are only 40,dont give up!!

I don't know. I haven't got that far. I don't want to cause chaos when I can't even find a way out.

I'm actually at the point where I feel like walking out of the door and not looking back, but something keeps stopping me.

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okapiokapi · 29/03/2022 14:56

@Easterbunnyiswindowshopping

Can you claim any benefits for your ill health? For your dc? Can you get on a housing list? Ask at the council of any household grants you may be able to apply for.
I've just started claiming Pip the beginning of this year and DLA for one of our children, the other was refused because I have no proof of him not sleeping!

Household grants are for accessibility and I've contacted the government through the links several times and never had a reply. I even wrote to them with the same response. I think it's for things like downstairs toilets, which we have one.

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talkingdeadscot · 29/03/2022 15:06

Would you qualify for PIP at all? It's both and in work and out of work benefit and it doesn't affect any other income or benefits. It would be a starting point if you do qualify. Are you able to contact Citizen's Advice or maybe a benefits person at your local council? If so, they could help you to find your way through. Do you get child benefit into your account? If you do and you qualify for PIP these bits of income can be something for you personally to have control of and also they can help you access other help.

talkingdeadscot · 29/03/2022 15:07

Sorry, just seen that you've started the PIP process. It might be a bit of a slog but don't give up Flowers

okapiokapi · 29/03/2022 15:10

@talkingdeadscot

Would you qualify for PIP at all? It's both and in work and out of work benefit and it doesn't affect any other income or benefits. It would be a starting point if you do qualify. Are you able to contact Citizen's Advice or maybe a benefits person at your local council? If so, they could help you to find your way through. Do you get child benefit into your account? If you do and you qualify for PIP these bits of income can be something for you personally to have control of and also they can help you access other help.
I've just started receiving £60 a week PIP and we get child tax credit as a joint claim. I don't know where the kids would want to be, I'm a joke to them. I can't find anywhere for £60 a week. I don't know what to do.
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Easterbunnyiswindowshopping · 29/03/2022 16:08

I would appeal. Add photos of an awake at stupid o'clock dc... Dozens op.
Apparently lots of claims been refused recently... Appeal imo.

FloBot7 · 29/03/2022 16:14

Have you contacted citizens advice at all? They have employees who specialise in money matters and could give you advice. You might qualify for other help like a car under the motability scheme.

Did you make a claim for your injuries after the accident? If it's still in progress could you speak to your solicitor about an interim payment?

okapiokapi · 29/03/2022 16:19

@Easterbunnyiswindowshopping

I would appeal. Add photos of an awake at stupid o'clock dc... Dozens op. Apparently lots of claims been refused recently... Appeal imo.
I'm appealing with CAB, but the stress of it is getting too much. I got this far last year and gave up and I can feel myself doing it again. I don't like conflict, which is probably why I let people treat me like dirt.
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okapiokapi · 29/03/2022 16:25

@FloBot7

Have you contacted citizens advice at all? They have employees who specialise in money matters and could give you advice. You might qualify for other help like a car under the motability scheme.

Did you make a claim for your injuries after the accident? If it's still in progress could you speak to your solicitor about an interim payment?

I'm appealing with CAB's advice , but I can't drive.

I made a claim, but I accepted the first offer because my husband promised me that the money would go towards building materials and he would get the house put back together. That was over 18 months ago and it's still not done, but he does have a lovely £700 Sage coffee machine. I don't drink coffee, but I appreciate the smell.

My solicitor told me that at the latest, I would have been looking to settle by October 2021 and taking the first offer is the biggest regret of my life, but we were looking like we were going to lose the house, so I reluctantly agreed, knowing that I'd be sleeping in a bed. I'm still on the sofa and we have no money. The minimum my solicitor said I would be looking to get would have paid for our house twice! I fee like such a fool. I've put myself in a position that I can't get out of.

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Babadook76 · 29/03/2022 16:31

There are a lot of elements of abuse there op. I’d definitely phone womans aid. Even if they can’t give you practical help, they can give you advise

okapiokapi · 29/03/2022 16:41

@Babadook76

There are a lot of elements of abuse there op. I’d definitely phone womans aid. Even if they can’t give you practical help, they can give you advise
No, I don't feel like I'm abused - just taken for granted and dehumanized. I don't think he realises how much I do and how hard it is. I was in agony for a week because I grated a carrot and I could hear how stupid that sounded, compared to who I used to be.

I have trouble finding my way around unfamiliar places, which is my autism. I can't plan a route. If I have an appointment, he has to take me, so because I have nobody else in my life, I don't know how to escape. I've searched cheap places to stay in the area I'm in, but I can't understand how to get there.

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Crikeyalmighty · 29/03/2022 16:51

Do you jointly own the house OP? I would be putting it up for sale, tell H you are separating and splitting the equity and moving somewhere with your children that’s near facilities and possible work. There are also a good amount of online WFH options these days- you are in a catch 22 at moment, no money and less options to earn money and he sounds an arse

stripeyflowers · 29/03/2022 16:57

The majority of stress in your life is down to him. It's not really relevant what you label his behaviour, it is massively negatively impacting your health and your life. I'm sorry I don't know what to advise but I'm thinking in your position what you need is to called Woman's Aid.

You won't be forced into anything you don't want to do and I am sure, whatever they make of your situation, they will be able to offer practical advise and solutions to improve your situation or they will be able to point you in the right direction of other services that will be of help.

I just wonder, though, what would he do if you point blank stopped doing anything for him?

stripeyflowers · 29/03/2022 16:58

*advice

okapiokapi · 29/03/2022 17:00

@Crikeyalmighty

Do you jointly own the house OP? I would be putting it up for sale, tell H you are separating and splitting the equity and moving somewhere with your children that’s near facilities and possible work. There are also a good amount of online WFH options these days- you are in a catch 22 at moment, no money and less options to earn money and he sounds an arse
The house is jointly owned, but it is in the middle of being renovated, which I can't complete. I have trouble painting, so it's all on him. I think he resents me because we renovated the previous house together. He either doesn't understand or doesn't believe that I'm disabled now. He has back pain, but so do I, plus many other issues. I've also had 2 miscarriages last year which I'm struggling with. If we go out, I can't eat because I have issues now that I didn't before and I can't tell him because I know it will disgust him. He had to give me stomach injections once after I had given birth. He was disgusted with my stomach. This was the day after I gave birth.

I'm sorry I don't know what WFH means.

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okapiokapi · 29/03/2022 17:14

@stripeyflowers

The majority of stress in your life is down to him. It's not really relevant what you label his behaviour, it is massively negatively impacting your health and your life. I'm sorry I don't know what to advise but I'm thinking in your position what you need is to called Woman's Aid.

You won't be forced into anything you don't want to do and I am sure, whatever they make of your situation, they will be able to offer practical advise and solutions to improve your situation or they will be able to point you in the right direction of other services that will be of help.

I just wonder, though, what would he do if you point blank stopped doing anything for him?

I have stopped doing his washing and the pots before. He eventually does them, but he will make a lot of noise doing it. I don't eat every day, sometimes I taste the kids food I make, but often he'll see what I make and decide to have cereal and milk or something from a packet. I struggle to eat anything that I haven't prepared from scratch, so as I struggle with my mobility, I find I'm eating less and less.

I've not being diagnosed, but I know I'm depressed. It cost me over £20 to go to the doctors on the bus and since Covid began, all my appointments are on the phone, so my children can hear everything, so I don't do that anymore. I had a talk therapist, but the service was cancelled and now it's just me.

I looked on Women's Aid, but its for women who are abused. He isn't abusing me, I just don't love him anymore.

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MrsWobbleTheWaitressIsTired · 29/03/2022 17:17

Have you tried contacting your MP? They are there to help folk in similar situations.

frozendaisy · 29/03/2022 17:34

Your husband let his wife and kids sleep on the floor on Christmas Eve? What sort of lowlife does this?

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