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No contact support thread

31 replies

SophieSoSo · 21/03/2022 12:54

Is there a NC thread running currently? I couldn’t see one and really need the support (and accountability!) they seem to give.

Day one for me. Usual story, abusive ex who leaves often and comes back later on. Taking all of my willpower to not text him and start the same cycle again.

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PollyDarton1 · 21/03/2022 17:57

Yes - me. Me and abusive ex split in September, but have had daily contact from then until recently.

He's met someone new and since then has completely blocked out - not before they had a blip and he reeled me back in for the sympathy. He doesn't want me, or to get back together, and has only shown glimpses of shit behaviour since we split so isn't the atypical abuser.

Problem is I'm still very trapped in the trauma bond, desperate for approval and currently convincing myself I was the problem all along.

SophieSoSo · 21/03/2022 18:02

I’m definitely trauma bonded to my ex too.

It’s awful, I know I don’t want him. I know my life would be so much better without him. When he leaves and I end up begging him to come back, and then when he does I’m regretting it the next day and don’t even particularly want him around.
It’s like I need him to want me if that makes sense?

Do you have children together? How long have you been no contact?x

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Waiting4u7 · 21/03/2022 18:05

Good luck. I found when I've been in this situation that every morning I'd think of him the Minute My eyes opened. I'd think aghhhh why can't I not think of him for one day. Then I'd walk around thinking and stewing and going over the anger and the hurt. I'd feel anxious and stressed because he was almost calling the shots. Because it was him that always wanted to fight or punish me with silence and withdrawing. I would then think why doesn't he care. Why doesn't he want to sort it.

I found pod casts helped. I found walking helped. Making a music playlist helped. I invented a 20 Minute rule where I wasn't allowed on social media for 20 minutes if I was being too obsessed. I made little plans for myself. Bought an orchid. Planned to paint the bathroom. Drank coffee in the sun. I messaged friends who I had probably not spent as much time on. I wrote a diary on my email account and saved it to drafts.
I was pretty rubbish at switching off.

I hope you find ways to release some of your thoughts. Remember not to think of the things you'll miss. They can fool you into wanting it back.

PollyDarton1 · 21/03/2022 18:39

@SophieSoSo

I’m definitely trauma bonded to my ex too.

It’s awful, I know I don’t want him. I know my life would be so much better without him. When he leaves and I end up begging him to come back, and then when he does I’m regretting it the next day and don’t even particularly want him around.
It’s like I need him to want me if that makes sense?

Do you have children together? How long have you been no contact?x

That's identical to how I feel. Him wanting me back would affirm I wasn't this horrible, crazy, hysterical "cunt" he made me out to be. That I'm somehow worthy, after years of feeling so appalling unworthy. He never accepted me, and I spent 7 years looking for that acceptance.

I don't want him back, to question my decisions, to tell me what I'm wearing is disgusting, to shout and bellow in our son's face, to stop me from eating certain things. To huff and puff when doing tasks because they weren't done properly, or to ignore me if I inconvenience him. I could never fully trust him or feel safe with him.

But the idea that I was the problem, that we were incompatible when it felt so right (he put me on a pedal stool) and the memories and laughter, the idea he's just not in my life anymore. It feels soul crushing. That I've just been discarded.

We have one son, 5, who he is pretty involved with (despite acknowledging he can only be a part time dad). No contact wise, this is actually the first day. We've spoken everyday since we split, but since he got with his new girlfriend and hoovered me in before spitting me out, things have been very hostile between us. He's put the boundaries in place, doesn't want anything to do with me, refers to our relationship as "shit" and says he just wants to move forwards. I'm just spent ruminating and questioning everything - he's never asked once how I feel, or the impact his behaviour had on me. On the flipside, he's asked for financial help, splurged all his worries and frustrations and anxieties, and when resolved, shut me out again.

SophieSoSo · 21/03/2022 18:41

@Waiting4u7

Good luck. I found when I've been in this situation that every morning I'd think of him the Minute My eyes opened. I'd think aghhhh why can't I not think of him for one day. Then I'd walk around thinking and stewing and going over the anger and the hurt. I'd feel anxious and stressed because he was almost calling the shots. Because it was him that always wanted to fight or punish me with silence and withdrawing. I would then think why doesn't he care. Why doesn't he want to sort it.

I found pod casts helped. I found walking helped. Making a music playlist helped. I invented a 20 Minute rule where I wasn't allowed on social media for 20 minutes if I was being too obsessed. I made little plans for myself. Bought an orchid. Planned to paint the bathroom. Drank coffee in the sun. I messaged friends who I had probably not spent as much time on. I wrote a diary on my email account and saved it to drafts.
I was pretty rubbish at switching off.

I hope you find ways to release some of your thoughts. Remember not to think of the things you'll miss. They can fool you into wanting it back.

Urgh this is word for word how I feel today!

How long until you started to feel better?x

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SophieSoSo · 21/03/2022 18:44

@PollyDarton1 I know it doesn’t feel like it, but these men really don’t change and no matter how it looks now he will be the same in this relationship. The problem is definitely not you.

I was banned from social media, told what I could and couldn’t wear, if I went to see my friends for a couple of hours he thought I was cheating. Been shouted at, had things thrown at me, called horrible names…he is vile, I’m ashamed that I miss him.

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PollyDarton1 · 22/03/2022 08:58

[quote SophieSoSo]@PollyDarton1 I know it doesn’t feel like it, but these men really don’t change and no matter how it looks now he will be the same in this relationship. The problem is definitely not you.

I was banned from social media, told what I could and couldn’t wear, if I went to see my friends for a couple of hours he thought I was cheating. Been shouted at, had things thrown at me, called horrible names…he is vile, I’m ashamed that I miss him.[/quote]
I don't know, I oscillate between thinking he's just got a deep rooted problem somewhere as he's treated other people like shit before (including his ex, to a lesser extent than me) and other times that he's just someone who gets easily frustrated and I was the target because I was "annoying". If his new girlfriend isn't like me, there is every chance they'll be fine.

He also claims to have emotionally grown as a result of our relationship (which he's thanked me for) - on the flipside, I left the relationship destroyed.

PollyDarton1 · 23/03/2022 09:02

How are you doing @SophieSoSo ?

My ex text me yesterday to see how our son was, and I sent a very brief message back. He's due to speak to him on video chat tonight (part of his arrangement) and I'm dreading it Sad

SophieSoSo · 23/03/2022 14:28

Not good today.

I hate him so much. How can he cause so much damage and walk away like it’s nothing?

That must be tough, do you need to be in the room while he’s on video call? Could you close the door and do something nice for yourself while it goes on?x

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Hehx3 · 23/03/2022 22:07

I have been there where you are 1 year ago. What helped me is to listen motivational talk from "let them go" series on you tube. Its like a private coach 😁 wish you all the best 💐

Manxiety · 23/03/2022 22:47

Block him and then delete his number. This will remove any temptation and free you from this conflict.

User838960 · 23/03/2022 23:06

All of your posts resonate with me so much. In the exact same position with abusive ex. He has done this shit before - pushing me away, leaving, saying horrible things. Only to calm down a day or two later and apologise. Or I beg him to. I've managed to forgive and forget and try propel forwards, and justify it all to my friends but the last occasion has let me down bigtime. And he knows I can't forgive this.

Yet I'm doing the whole waking up in the morning, dreading to look at my phone in case he hasn't text. And then spending the first hours of the morning thinking of all the things I have tolerated only to be deserted. Welling up in tears. Feeling anxious. All the things you've described.

My problem is that his ex caused so many of our issues and he allowed her to. And my crazy mind now has the fear he would go running back there which would just break me. I can't stop thinking along those lines. He has never given me that indication but now I'm convincing myself of it.

He has sent the apologies. Said how ashamed he is. But it all feels so cold. And yet I'm sitting here dying for him to come begging still?! I hate this trauma bonding, I wish I had the strength to just walk away without looking back.

Thinking of you all. It's not a normal breakup. I have had the sadness of other breakups. This feels like torture.

I slipped on the contact yesterday and regretted it. I'm not going to do that again. And I most certainly will not keep checking his last seen on whatsapp like I have!!! I just can't bring myself to block him.

SheKnowsWithoutKnowing · 23/03/2022 23:09

Two Months no contact, the longest has been six months, had been on/off for two years, he's blocked me now which he'd never done before so I'm hoping it'll stay that way, I'm just so weak when he comes back, I'm never the first to reach out but when he does, I can't ignore him, yet I can't stand being in his presence more than a day. It annoys me I'm attracted to him still and miss him, yet he's not a nice man and I shouldn't if I have any sense miss him.
The feeling of another failed relationship really saddens me but I have to let it go and stop holding out hope it would ever work with him.

Sassbott · 24/03/2022 07:51

I broke up (for the last time) with my ex about 6 months ago. We had been on / off for years. Me ending things, him promising change (even going to therapy for 3 months), and my taking him back each time.

The last time I ended things I acknowledged that (as people say here time and again) I needed professional help to help me break away for good. I worked through understanding a lot about the dynamic, the fact that I was trauma bonded and the counsellor was very clear what steps I needed to take to break for good. For me it was very black and white as we had no shared child.

From the get go he was blocked on my phone/ social media etc. I left email open, until finally after speaking to my councillor I closed that down too and asked that he no longer contact me. He had by this point made about 8-10 unprompted attempts at contact.

He then continued, via email (even though he was blocked and they went to spam). At this point he was in clear harassment territory. The emails/ attempted contacts were always about 10-12 days apart. So what was happening is even though I wasn’t seeing him/ speaking to him, the bond was being retained via the emails and the pattern was simply moved. So as much as I thought I had broken things off, I wasn’t moving on emotionally. His emails were preventing that (he knows that, that’s why he sent them). Any form of contact puts the clock back to day one in terms of recovery.

Finally after speaking to my counsellor (who had been urging me to take this step for weeks) I reported him to the police. Hats off to them they took it seriously and he was seen a few days later and told (very clearly) that I no longer wished to have any form of contact, that the relationship was over and he needed to leave me alone.

The concern was that his behaviour could (and most likely would) escalate as he was clearly unhappy at my absolute refusal to respond.

He has happily listened to the police and I have not heard a peep. That was a few months ago. Finally I am starting to heal and move on, something he hadn’t given me space to do. I would never have gotten this space had I not involved the police. And I would still be stuck in this loop of trying to stay no contact even though he was continually trying to poke a hole through somewhere in the vain hope I broke down.

The good news is i have no removed him from my phone completely. He isn’t blocked anywhere (as I need his number on my phone to do that). He hadn’t blocked me anywhere so I’m the various messaging apps if I couldn’t help myself I could see him and that was (honestly) torture. He is deleted and gone. He contacts me again? I will call the police.

That’s my story of no contact and today? I look back and can see how trauma bonded I was and why I simply couldn’t have taken the steps (like reporting him to the police) 2 years ago. I wish I had. In the Uk we all have a basic human right to live our lives and not be harassed. The police take this stuff very seriously, the officers who turned up were very clear that I had done the right thing to call them. Sadly this sort of obsessive behaviour is the behaviour that can escalate into much more serious stuff.

I will set myself on fire before I ever contact that man again. I’m proud of myself for getting here (it’s hard I know) but equally wish k had taken my life back years ago

SophieSoSo · 24/03/2022 11:22

It’s so hard today, I’ve just cried for an hour.

I don’t want him back, but for him to be able to just leave so easily makes me feel worthless.

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PollyDarton1 · 24/03/2022 12:58

Oh @SophieSoSo - what triggered it?

I had to speak to my ex yesterday when he video called our son. He was giving it the big "I'm looking at flats tomorrow" spiel and then asked me a question about drop off on Sunday which I'd already confirmed via text. I asked him over SMS whether he was at work tomorrow (as he's due to pick up our son straight from school and he's been on phased return after a MH episode) and whether the school should contact him or my Mum who is local and he ignored it. He's so ridiculously petty.

I had a therapy session today which really helped - when I told her everything I'd been through with him, she said no wonder I felt disorientated and anxious. We've set some goals to overcome and I hope with her help I will be able to break the trauma bond.

MissMaple82 · 24/03/2022 13:16

Oh my, this brings back awful memories. I spent many years in this exact cycle. Him leaving, me feeling so sad, him eventually coming back, being abusive again, then leaving, me sad, then back... so on so on.. trust me when I say it RUINS your soul and your life. I know its hard but you've gotbto justbtryst the process eventually your life will improve and one day you will look back amd realise how much he's taken away from you. It took me a long time to but honestly I look back now and I can't believe I let a pieces of shit man hate that much control over me and my life. There's a better life for you out there, you just have to stay strong 💪 ❤

SophieSoSo · 24/03/2022 13:24

Thank you @MissMaple82 x

I don’t know what triggered it really, I’ve been angry all week at how he treats me and then I dreamt about him last night and I just woke up feeling so sad.

I’ve been thinking about therapy but it’s so expensive I’m not sure I can afford it. I’m really pleased it’s helping you, that’s a great step! X

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PollyDarton1 · 24/03/2022 13:38

@SophieSoSo it's so hard when your unconscious does this to you - I have dreams about my ex regularly (even last night) and it throws me off kilter.

Have you been in contact with Woman's Aid? I'm wondering if they could signpost you to some services which could allow you to have some talking therapy? Or maybe some self help books?

SophieSoSo · 24/03/2022 13:57

[quote PollyDarton1]@SophieSoSo it's so hard when your unconscious does this to you - I have dreams about my ex regularly (even last night) and it throws me off kilter.

Have you been in contact with Woman's Aid? I'm wondering if they could signpost you to some services which could allow you to have some talking therapy? Or maybe some self help books?[/quote]
I haven’t yet, but I have thought about it.

I’ve paid for the freedom program online I just haven’t started it yet, I can’t find the energy. I’m trying to focus on work and then just feel exhausted. I’m sleeping well so that’s something I guess!

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SophieSoSo · 24/03/2022 14:16

@Hehx3

I have been there where you are 1 year ago. What helped me is to listen motivational talk from "let them go" series on you tube. Its like a private coach 😁 wish you all the best 💐
Thank you for this!! X
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PollyDarton1 · 24/03/2022 14:37

I found the Freedom Programme online wasn't as good as the ones where you can speak to other people who have experienced the same sort of treatment. I also found because my ex was low level, some of the descriptions didn't ring true for him.

I'd definitely call Woman's Aid and get signposted - we have a specific domestic abuse service where I am which I've self referred to for ongoing support.

User838960 · 24/03/2022 20:59

The mornings are so tough I find. I go through all the different motions through the day of relief, anger, knowing it's the right thing etc but in the morning I always wake up feeling devastated that this is what he actually wants. I hate that him coming back is the only thing that would make me feel less worthless right now. And I'm so mad that he is probably getting a great night sleep, not even thinking about it.

JLBear12 · 24/03/2022 21:44

I am 4 months out since me and my daughter were discarded. I too am trauma bonded, I found Dr Ramini really helpful on YouTube. I struggle with thoughts of him but then I remember the silent treatments, bad moods, sulking and always being blamed for everything. I just know he can never change and will treat every woman like this xx

PollyDarton1 · 25/03/2022 10:24

@User838960

The mornings are so tough I find. I go through all the different motions through the day of relief, anger, knowing it's the right thing etc but in the morning I always wake up feeling devastated that this is what he actually wants. I hate that him coming back is the only thing that would make me feel less worthless right now. And I'm so mad that he is probably getting a great night sleep, not even thinking about it.
I hear you. I always feel worse in the morning and later on in the evening when I end up wondering whether he's seeing his girlfriend, talking to her, building a new life. I don't want him back really at all, but I want him to want me if that makes sense.