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Mummys boy

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Anon96lp · 09/03/2022 16:53

I need some relationship advice as my partner is a mummys boy and we're about to make a big commitment of buying a house together but im beginning to get concerned!
(Sorry for the essay in advance!)
my partner and i have been together for 5 years (im 25, he's 29). I moved in with him and his mum 2 years ago so we can save for a house deposit and during that time we got engaged. he has always been close to his mum but i didnt notice how close until i got to witness it first hand. Him and his mum catch up before he leaves for work, facetime/phone call during his work day, catch up when he gets back from work (she's the first person he goes to talk to when he gets home from work) and he always texts her goodnight even though shes in the room next door. I taught him how to cook and look after himself as he never had chores growing up because his mum did everything for him and i feel myself picking up the slack as he isnt always hands on with cleaning or cooking. He tells his mum everything. I had a miscarriage during lock down and he told his mum ''because he needed support''. her response to the miscarriage was ''arent you scared when you have kids shes going to take your child to her home country to be with her family?'' he openly told me this and didnt see an issue with the statement??? Please consider i have lived in the UK 18 years and all of my immediate family live here so there is no chance of that happening. He is a good partner and treats me well unless the issue around his mum come up in which case he gets very defensive. His mum manipulates him and treats him like a kid and gives him the silent treatment if he disagrees with her, he then chases for her forgiveness even though she's in the wrong. When he bought my engagement ring, her first question was ''what are you going to do with the ring if you break up, will you let her keep it?''. He told me this after our engagement and he saw it as her being accepting of the engagement?? She has made comments on my appearance multiple times and its always when her son compliments me. He will say ''doesnt she look nice today'' and his mums usual response is ''she looks so different without make up, i wouldnt recognise her in the street if i walked past''. she makes snide remarks such as ''you made my son grow up too fast, he wants to get married and buy a house instead of hang out with his friends ever since hes been with you'' i mean, 29, about time you grow up, no?. He left our mortgage meeting to go and ask his mum if she has any questions in relation to the purchase of our house that she wants to ask the mortgage avisor.... his answer to everything is ''but its my mum, thats just how she is, dont be so sensitive''. So, my concern is that we buy the house and start a family but he will always put his mum first and will always prioritise her views over ours and it scares me especially when the time comes to having kids. Im concerned he will overrule my judgement as a partner to do what his mum things is best. Am i overreacting or should i be wary? can he change if he currently isnt willing to even listen to any concerns as he gets defensive?

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Pantsomime · 09/03/2022 18:58

Don’t do it

Puzzledandpissedoff · 09/03/2022 19:08

He will not change because she still does everything for him

Yes, and IMO that would be reason enough in itself to ditch him

As someone once said, "When I got married I expected to have children; I just didn't expect my husband to be one of them"

EarthSight · 09/03/2022 19:17

There's so much in this post it's difficult to pick one thing.

I know he must have good personality traits, but seriously, this is dysfunctional and I wouldn't blame you for reversing out of this relationship before the gates close you in.

His mum manipulates him and treats him like a kid and gives him the silent treatment if he disagrees with her, he then chases for her forgiveness even though she's in the wrong

She sounds like a smother mother. They're controlling, manipulative and don't really care about other people's feelings much as long as they get their own way. They know how to make their children feel insecure so that they never feel confident to leave home or stand on their own two feet.

It's not about whether he can to change - it's about whether or not he wants to and is willing to endure a degree of discomfort to assert his boundaries. He may have no wish to do that and doesn't see a problem with all of this.

I'd be running for the hills. Just imagine having her as a grandmother to your children. You will be made to feel small, incompetent and she will make you out to be the villain if your son does stand up to her.

EarthSight · 09/03/2022 19:19

Also, if you do stay, don't be surprised if you get constantly compared with her and be made to feel like crap for falling short of his mummy's standards. Bleurgh!!

SeraphinaDombegh · 09/03/2022 19:26

Run, run away now and do it quickly. Do NOT get financially entangled with this man child. His mother will hang over your entire marriage. You'll never be able to make any decisions about your children without mummy dearest being consulted. This will not end well. Cut him loose now while you still can!

Maze76 · 09/03/2022 19:30

Oh no.. you are setting yourself up for a lifetime of interference from his mother.
Guaranteed nothing you do will ever be good enough, don’t be surprised if she has a say in what house you buy, location, how it’s decorated etc
He will forever side with her and excuse any bad behaviour- cut your losses, save yourself a lifetime of misery.

Marmelace · 09/03/2022 19:33

How can he not give you the ick?

lemonyfox · 09/03/2022 19:34

She will be at your new house all the time. He will likely give her a key and she will let herself in whenever she wants and it doesn't sound like he'd be willing nor want to put any boundaries in place with her. How would you feel about that?

abbey44 · 09/03/2022 19:36

Oh God, my first husband was one of these and it was an utter disaster. His mother was there for everything, he gave her a key to our house and she used to come round to "tidy up" when we were out at work, was horrified I cooked for him without using a deep-fat fryer and her biggest objection to me (there were so many...) was that I put him on the mortgage to my house when we married because she saw that as "getting him into debt". (Mind you, she was happy to encourage him to go for half of everything when we divorced.) When I found I was pregnant unexpectedly after a year of marriage, she told him it wasn't right for him, he left me to go back to his mother and that was pretty much it.

Please don't shackle yourself to him and his mother - you are so young and you deserve so much better from life.

Whattochoosenow · 09/03/2022 19:37

Walk away.
There is a critical window in brain development for becoming fully independent and it looks like his mother has completely suppressed that.
Walk away.

Aquamarine1029 · 09/03/2022 19:40

My god, how many red flags do you need to see right in front of your face?

You would be an absolute fool to stay with this man. What you see is what you get, and his mother will only continue to get worse. Marrying him would be the biggest mistake of your life. Take your money and start over.

LouOver · 09/03/2022 19:48

Regardless of the mum things its a massive mistake to buy a house with someone who you haven't independently lived with.

You need to rent together for at least 6 months so that you deal with bills, cleaning rota ect.. as a couple without mummy.

Riverlee · 09/03/2022 19:52

Definitely DO NoT give his mother a key!

Sorchamarie · 09/03/2022 19:54

I definitely don't think you're over reacting and I definitely think you should be very wary. If his Mum was actually nice to you, maybe you could make this relationship work, but she's not at all nice to you by the sounds of it. I really think you'll have endless problems and issues relating to his Mum if you stay together. 😢 Best of luck for whatever you decide.

Ourlady · 09/03/2022 20:14

Good God just no OP.
This has catastrophe written all over it.

Sweetpeasaremadeofcheese · 09/03/2022 20:27

It will get worse when you have children because you will be deperate to mother them your own way and be your own little family and they won't let you. They are showing you how it will be. I know it's easy for us to say run but....seriously! This is your last chance to choose your own life.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 09/03/2022 20:27

Definitely DO NoT give his mother a key!

What makes you think OP would have a choice? Is it really likely he'd refuse this to mummy?

Yamalt · 09/03/2022 20:36

Stay with him at your own peril! You’ve been warned by many an experienced PP here.

These men don’t change and your MIL to be sounds incredibly toxic and jealous. A terrible combination.

Personally I would find it difficult to be attracted to a manchild like this.

babyhaha · 09/03/2022 20:43

Pls listen to all of the comments, people really aren’t exaggerating!

I’ve had one child with a mummy’s boy and currently pregnant with my second. I didn’t realise how bad it was until literally last month. The fact that you’ve had to teach him how to cook and he didn’t grow up doing chores etc. It all sounds too familiar and once you have a child he’ll continue to put his mum first. I’m in this situation because I’m dumb and ignored these signs hoping he’d change. If I was you, I wouldn’t even get a mortgage with this guy. He’s literally showing you his mum comes first before any kids/marriage so it’s not going to get better is it? I think deep down you know that too.

I’d say listen to the advice about renting otherwise in 5 years time you’ll find yourself married and on MN asking what to do about your MIL!

babyhaha · 09/03/2022 20:45

Men like this are really a joke when it comes to mummy dearest. Everything has to be run past her and you’d think they’re the ones in a relationship🤦‍♀️ I’m currently pregnant with a son and really hope I raise him to be independent and NOT a mummy’s boy

Thatsplentyjack · 09/03/2022 20:47

Do not start a family with this man!

Elieza · 09/03/2022 21:06

I had a mummies boy. You will have to do all the housework etc because she will tell him that you should.

He will always side with her. Always. He will never go against her. You cannot change that.

Is he Indian? I ask because my friends husband was like that as the culture he came from was very much you do what your parents tell you end of.

I’d strongly suggest you will have problems and I’d strongly suggest you rent for a year to see how it goes.

Do not try for a baby in that time. It’s too soon and you will likely be a single mum with that dragon telling him not to give you money to look after dc as you’ll waste it or some shite. Don’t rush into things. You will regret it. And it’s hard trying to have a good life and good career as a single mum. Take one step at a time.

Although the dragon will tell you renting is a bad idea I’d suggest it’s an ideal way to suss out what he is like without the dragon.

Only then will you know if he is a keeper. And I think I know the answer.

It’s worth a years rent to prevent many years of misery.

BadNomad · 09/03/2022 21:07

It's honestly not worth it. There actually are men out there who are already housetrained. Go get yourself to one of them.

GentlemanJayFab · 09/03/2022 21:23

I had a wife who should have been married to her mum not me.

It will constantly grind you down.

SoftwareDev · 09/03/2022 21:28

Sounds like they have an unhealthy relationship.

Don't marry him thinking you can change him in this respect - you won't.

You need to ask yourself if you are able to marry him with this ongoing dynamic with his mother.

Personally - I'd run. Life is too short.