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I don’t know if our 30 year relationship is coming to an end

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Fairytoast · 26/02/2022 15:02

Or can we save it?
I apologise in advance for the length of this post.
I’ve never been in any other relationship so have no bench mark to set against to measure if this has been a good or poor relationship but it currently feels strained and I just don’t know where to turn.
DH and I have been together for 30 years since we were 17 and 18.
Our 20’s were full of fun, travel and going out, lots of laughter. Our 30’s were raising our children who are now 16 and 14.
The next part of our lives is where it’s started to stain and I am not sure if it is these circumstances which are fraying things?
Our early 40’s were fine but it’s all been a bit shit the last 5/6 years.
My lovely MIL passed away 18 months ago after 5 years poorly with a bowel tumour. DH has just gotten on with things, doesn’t talk much about MIL and that’s up to him as we all grieve differently (although personally I really don’t think he’s addressed his grief). I really miss her so much.
Then my own mum was diagnosed with Alzheimer’s 4 years ago. My dad struggles and is in denial with her diagnosis. My dad is an awkward character (that would be a whole other thread just on him!) and it’s hard for my sister and I. He won’t have any outside help in and so I go in everyday and help. It’s stressful and has taken it’s toll on my mental and physical well-being. I am going to have to insist he gets help in this year.
My ds (16) has had a lot of anxiety over the last few years. It’s started off in the last year of primary and turned out he was scared of secondary school. The first years of secondary were a nightmare. Every morning he refused to go to school and this has gone on until year 10. The school have been of no help, the attendance officer would ring me and insist I get him in. I would say he’s 6 foot tall and 2 stone heavier than me, just how do I do that? No answer or help from them. I would plead with them to check him for dyslexia but they said they couldn’t. They checked him 6 months ago and indeed he has dyslexia (DH would not pay for a private assessment, see below re financial issues). This was the main reason for his anxiety as he was struggling. Eventually I got him some counselling and he has been better. No help from anyone else, dh wouldn’t get involved as he was at work when this happened every morning. He and his family don’t deal well with mental health issues, it’s all controllable according to them!
The stress of recent years have taken its toll on my physical and mental health. I have IBS which is in constant flare no matter how many invasive, uncomfortable tests come back ok I am in discomfort most days which gets me down. I also suffer awful anxiety not helped by the fact I have very low anaemia (had to have urgent infusions 2 weeks ago), I am due to have an op to fix my heavy periods but can’t have it till my iron is up so that is a bit of a vicious cycle.
DH tells me that I am making him miserable, that I am ruining his life because I feel unwell and am depressed. I am really trying to be proactive in getting better, I have had CBT and counselling, I take all the IBS meds and stick to the diets. I don’t just sit and mope, I really try but keeping all these plates in the air is bloody draining.
I feel he is being unreasonable. He doesn’t help with the kids. He never took them out on his own when they were babies/toddlers. Has never helped with homework, never taken any interest in their studies or how well they are doing (he is not academic and has made his money by being practical). He never gets involved with parents evening, never looks at their reports etc. He loves the kids, I do know that for sure but he’s never been a hands on dad at all (just like his own father. Always their physically but not so much emotionally etc).
He works full time and I part time as a PA for a disabled lady.
I have buried this thought for years but I do wonder if he’s a little financially controlling? Obviously he earns much more than I do. All my money is for the kids, I don’t spend much on myself, all their little treats in life are from me.
DH pays all the bills and our mortgage which after all these years is only about £300 per month and for another 3 or so years.
He is a big saver and obsessed about saving loads for his retirement. The kids always moan that we don’t do anything fun. They even say he’s a Scrooge. I need to get a job earning more money to treat them but it’s been hard as I’ve been helping with my mum a d have these health issues going on. DH resents this.
He hates paying out for utility bills and moans like crazy if the kids leave lights on or turns up the thermostat or uses too much water (this all before the recent fuel issues). He works outside so is never cold, he hates putting the heating on. It’s on for an hour in the morning and then comes on around 5pm. He keeps it low or off and insists on a log burner which I hate but he insists we keep it as he gets the logs for free. Obviously makes sense especially with the current fuel crisis but it aggravates my bad sinuses.
He has a smart meter and spends all his time looking at it and tutting!
Martin Lewis is his hero!
Obviously I am painting a bad picture here and I am certainly no angel but he is getting on mine and the kids nerves, they both say he’s changing and becoming more grumpy and mean spirited. He questions everything to do with cost and money. Whatever the kids ask for something or wants to do something fun with friends it’s ‘how much will that cost?’ and the answer is usually no. I end up giving them the money even though I can’t afford it.
Sorry lots of ramblings here but I have so much going on in my head and can not fathom any of it out. I can’t work out if I am genuinely in a shit relationship or this is just a blip because I am pretty sure I still love him but having never been in any other relationship do I even know what love is?
I am so confused.
I would suggest counselling for this but he is totally against anything like that, he is very stubborn and very rarely compromises or would want to see another POV.
Has anyone questioned their long term relationship? I would be so scared to even know what to do. I don’t want to have wasted the last 30 years of my life, I want to save me marriage but certainly don’t want a future like this either.

OP posts:
LimeSegment · 27/02/2022 12:44

If you end up splitting the last 30 years haven't been a waste. You said you had fun together and a good relationship (not perfect but whose is) for the first 25 years. That's a really good run. Maybe the relationship has now run its course and your lives will go in different directions.

Eagle6EyeD · 27/02/2022 13:50

If you are unwell & cannot work FT, can you apply for PIP ?

Alternatively, if you are well enough work FT, 2 jobs ?

At 18 your encourage your children to get a PT job

Now that your children are older, do you & DH spend any te together, date nights ?

I think you should all plan a holiday together, even if it a couple of days
Megabus is cheapest travel
You can get family train discount cards

You all need something to look forward to, now that the restrictions have lifted

Fairytoast · 27/02/2022 13:54

GeneLovesJezebel luckily I do have my own bank accounts.
Eagle6EyeD DS is starting an apprenticeship in July and will earn quite good money so that’s a good start for him. No, DH and I don’t have date nights. We go for walks and he will take odd days out and we’ll go out for a day with the dog lol! I have booked two weekends away as a family this year, had to be the cheapest I could find though, that’s always the case which takes the shine off things but at least they are booked and something to look forward to.

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Eagle6EyeD · 27/02/2022 13:56

What's stopping you from working FT ?

Canyouhearmehello · 27/02/2022 14:22

OP tomorrow go to see a Solicitor explain the controlling behaviour and start divorce. When you have your own place you will be more relaxed as will dc, you will have money because he will have to pay for dc you can go to CP .
If you stay what happens when you retire he has savings etc you get a state pension. He is a nasty piece of work you deserve better. Good luck

Eagle6EyeD · 27/02/2022 14:33

If you live in UK

You need 35 years of National Insurance contributions to claim a full state pension per person

You can check this via your National Insurance number on www.gov.uk

Also

Check your state pension forecast

www.gov.uk/check-state-pension

Fairytoast · 27/02/2022 14:39

Eagle6EyeD I am currently a carer for my mum who has Alzheimer’s, I also have anaemia which is causing me to faint regularly, I am under the hospital having iron infusions and signed off from my part time job. Until all that is sorted and I get carers in for mum full time work atm is a bit tricky.

OP posts:
Eagle6EyeD · 27/02/2022 14:54

Do you claim carers allowance or for your DM ?

Fairytoast · 27/02/2022 15:25

Yes I do Eagle6EyeD

OP posts:
Mushr0000mPie · 27/02/2022 17:21

Your DH is essentially supporting you, children & your DM

I have lived alone & have supported an elderly relative, whilst working FT
It is much harder emotionally & financially

There is a saying, don't swap your troubles for someone else's troubles

Perhaps, you should try connecting with your DH more ?

Krasunya · 27/02/2022 17:45

Can anyone share if they’ve been through similar situation, I feel I am “ going crazy”, hard not to cry all the time.
Married for 10 years, so happy! Children, holidays, romance etc. Then as life became stressful he would make often rude/sarcastic comments,
Made me so upset, kept asking him not to do it. As overall he was very good husband I didn’t worry too much, thinking he will mellow
with age, become more polite/gentle. Now at the age of 59 he suddenly tells me he wants to leave me! “ I love you forever but I cant go on
It is making me ill”. I fear he is going through middle life crisis, recently he wanted to use all of our retirement savings to buy a dilapidated church
“ to use as an art studio”. He doesn’t want to go through counselling, when I appeal to him, asking not to break the family for the children’s sake
He just says “ they will survive”. He seems depressed to me, I wonder if he cannot think straight?? He says not depressed. He is a Capricorn, emotions are very hard for him.
I still love him and he looks so miserable/confused, I want to be there for him but its hard as he keeps being affectionate despite being certain on leaving me it makes no sense ☹
I am not ready to give us, he was a wonderful husband for ten years, but now every day is costing me a piece of my sanity ☹((

DuchessofAnkh1 · 27/02/2022 17:51

@Fairytoast

Eagle6EyeD I am currently a carer for my mum who has Alzheimer’s, I also have anaemia which is causing me to faint regularly, I am under the hospital having iron infusions and signed off from my part time job. Until all that is sorted and I get carers in for mum full time work atm is a bit tricky.
I have a friend in a similar situation; the solution for her was to realise that she was sick herself, and needed to address that urgently. It is impossible to care for a sick relative at the same time. Help will not be available while you are caring yourself for your mum and you will only get sicker. You need to urgently sort out the reasons behind your anaemia and other issues. Then and only then can you do other things.
Twicklette · 27/02/2022 18:13

I agree with @Mushr0000mPie. Your husband may feel resentful of you becoming the main carer for your mother whilst he has to be the family breadwinner. How many women working full time would tolerate a husband not pulling his weight financially because he was caring for his parents?
Your children will be independent soon and leaving home. You are free to walk away at any stage but it seems you are used to being financially dependent on your husband. If you are really unhappy your children leaving might be the catalyst that makes you leave and start living independently, making your own decisions. Are you excited by the prospect of starting afresh?

Fairytoast · 27/02/2022 18:13

DuchessofAnkh you are right of course, it’s been going on for so long and I am now so far worn down by my own physical issues and personal that I just can’t look after mum like I used to. I have started today by emailing our local adult social services to ask for a care needs assessment and Weill,hopefully get an appointment asap. I spoke with my sister today (who is also having health issues) and we agree regardless of how much dad may protest, this has to happen. I can not fix myself if I am carrying the weight of my parents issues too.

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Molly70 · 27/02/2022 19:07

Perhaps regarding the money situation and finances, you should raise the topic in a manner that sounds like you are being pragmatic. My husband often moans that I do not pay enough attention to family finances and if something happens to him I wouldn’t know where our money is. Your dh should be thinking along those lines as well

Cherrysoup · 27/02/2022 19:11

Have you used the online calculator to see how much you’d get in benefits (uc?) if you left him? As you’re married, you’re definitely entitled to at least some of the house. Have you considered seeing a solicitor?

Wallywobbles · 27/02/2022 19:35

If you stay with him you shouldn't expect to see your kids much once they have the option of leaving.

So, don't stay. Please.

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