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Questions about childhood / relationship with mother

76 replies

Knitternatter · 20/02/2022 20:47

Hi, sorry for the long post. I was hoping I could get some perspective on this. I feel that my childhood has greatly impacted my life now, I think it would be fair to class my childhood as abusive but the only other person that would be able to confirm this is my sister and she won’t talk about it. I’ve been doing a lot of thinking recently and feel that my low self esteem and anxiety may well be a result of this (but I’m not sure). Would you class the below as abusive? I also feel so strongly that I don’t want to parent my DS the way I was parented or make him feel the way I did. For info I grew up with just my mum and older sister - no other parent involved.

  1. We would be hit with a leather belt as punishment. I don’t remember much of this but I do remember it was my sister that bore the main brunt of it until one day she buried it in the back garden.
  1. A lot of what I think is emotional abuse. Being told by my mum that she wished she never had us. I can’t remember her ever telling us she loved us. Locking us out of the house for hours at a time. A regular favourite punishment of hers was to send us to bed for DAYS on end. This meant no books, playing etc just lying in bed all day. We were called down for meals then sent back up again. I actually had to sneak out of the house to sit one of my GCSEs as I had been sent to bed for the day that I had my exam and when I told her she told me I wasn’t allowed to go (I waited for her to go to work and snuck out). I remember spending my 9th birthday in bed. She would also get really cross sometimes and smash picture frames with our pictures in etc on the floor.
  1. Just weird punishments really. I remember once I must have been about 11 or 12 and I stole my sisters tampons. I didn’t know what to do with them and so tried using them, then ended up hiding them in my drawer. When she found out she cut all my hair off (she did take me to the hairdresser to rectify it but the only thing they could do was give me a pixie cut as it was so short). I remember once when I was about 5 she had arranged a birthday party for me. My sister did something on the morning (can’t remember what and it wouldn’t have been that bad as we were both terrified of her). She cancelled the party and told me it was my sisters fault. Several times she gave away our pets as a punishment for something. She made my sister go to school in her pyjamas once when she was 14 as a punishment.
  1. When I was a teenager she refused to acknowledge me in the mornings quite regularly, I would say good morning and be ignored. She would also pull up at the house after work and end up sitting in the car reading a paper for at least an hour regularly before coming in and would then give me the silent treatment. We could never really afford holidays and had 3 that I remember, but once we went camping in Cornwall (about a 6 hour drive away). I asked if I could set the tent up as I was really excited to do it. I did it but set it facing the wind apparently - she ordered me to pack it up, she packed everything back in the car and drove the 6 hours back home in silence. I once poured sour, mouldy milk on my cereal (didn’t realise it had gone off). She made me eat it. Got a summer job once when I was 16 and got myself an expensive sporty coat with some of my wages - the same day she made me clear up the dogs shit with it so obviously it went in the bin. I wasn’t allowed to brush my teeth for a week once at primary school.
  1. Just a lot of random stuff really. I think she got pleasure out of seeing me disappointed. I remember once I asked if I could go out to the youth club with some friends (rarely got to do things like that as I wasn’t allowed to other peoples houses and we weren’t allowed friends over to ours so didn’t see friends out of school). To my surprise she said yes so I got ready and was really excited, then just before I was about to leave she asked how I was going to pay to get in with a smile on her face (I had no pocket money so no way of paying the fee to get in and so couldn’t go).
  1. She would send us off on ‘hunts’ for various things around the house for hours as she was sure we had taken them. They never turned up and we had never taken them in the first place.

For reference we were good kids, we didn’t do anything really awful as like I said we were petrified of her. The punishments etc were for things such as bickering with each other or leaving light switches on etc.

Now I’ve read it back it doesn’t actually seem that bad but would appreciate thoughts.

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Knitternatter · 20/02/2022 21:52

@Weefreetiffany oh that reply made me feel really emotional thank you. Your reply and others have definitely confirmed I would benefit from talking to someone so that will be first on my list tomorrow. Thank you ❤️

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ZippyZap · 20/02/2022 21:53

Oh my goodness, this is one of the saddest things I've read for a long time, I hope you can work through this and I'd find an amazing therapist even if you don't think you need it. I'm truly sorry you had to go through all of that

MakkaPakkas · 20/02/2022 21:59

What you describe is not normal. It's abusive. And could not be any child's fault they were treated like that.
Here's my childhood with my DM for comparison:
Frequent cuddles, often told I was loved, mam would sit by my bed and talk though my worries with me, always there for a cup of tea and a chat after school (I realise not possible for everyone as they'd be working), she'd spend ages preparing me to have little adventures (basic independence stuff like go to the shops, go on the bus etc.), She'd have my friends round for tea, take us for little days out when we could afford it, we went to friends houses too, made cakes for all the kids in the street when we were playing out. When I was naughty I'd be told off verbally, very occasionally sent to my room for 30 mins or so.
She wasn't perfect, but she was a good normal mam.
That's normal. Sending your kid to bed for days is not normal, beating your child is not normal, the thing with the tent is a horrible mean thing to do to a child.
I'm really sorry you went through this. Good luck with whatever you decide to do x

BlueFlavour · 20/02/2022 22:00

I’m so sorry this happened to you. You didn’t deserve it. It was your mum’s responsibility to work through her pain, not yours and your sister’s.
You deserve love and happiness. Try to respect your feelings about your childhood. Feel them, and let them go.
It’s ok to be you. You have a right to be here, a right to like what you like and feel safe.

You sound so lovely and I wish you light and joy on your journey Flowers

BlueFlavour · 20/02/2022 22:02

Cherish yourself @Knitternatter, and you will find strength. Flowers

jadew88 · 20/02/2022 22:05

I work in children's safeguarding for an ambulance service. There are 4 categories of child abuse: physical, emotional, sexual and neglect.

Your mother subjected you to all except sexual abuse.

I am so sorry for what you were put through, and I'm sorry that this behaviour has seemed to be so normalised for you that now looking back it "doesn't seem that bad". It must have been horrendous for you, and I really hope you manage to seek the help you need to come to terms with what happened to you and your sister ❤️

Justleaveitblankthen · 20/02/2022 22:10

This broke my heart. I found it extremely difficult to read.
I'm so very sorry you both had to endure this. ❤️

Avarua · 20/02/2022 22:17

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Avarua · 20/02/2022 22:21

(I bet she had an entirely shit childhood herself)

runforyourdog · 20/02/2022 22:24

I can't believe you think that's not bad! Really really upsetting to read that she sounds horrible!!

Mulhollandmagoo · 20/02/2022 22:25

Now I’ve read it back it doesn’t actually seem that bad but would appreciate thoughts

Oh wow, really? It's bad! So so bad, it's worse than bad, it's disgusting! Ive never wanted to put my arms around someone as much as I do you right now.

Those experiences will have 100% impacted you into adulthood, have you had any therapy? If not definitely look into it, it's something that can really help you move forward. So you still have any kind of relationship with your mother now? Your sister will be blocking it out as a way to deal with it, but you don't have to do that if you don't want to, but you are unlikely to get any answers from her.

runforyourdog · 20/02/2022 22:38

@Avarua what??? This is no way to treat a child.

Knitternatter · 20/02/2022 22:41

I just wanted to say thank you to everyone for the replies. I’ve read every single one several times and have felt very emotional. I will definitely be exploring counselling or some sort of talking therapy. Really appreciate the responses❤️

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BlueFlavour · 20/02/2022 22:55

I hope you find a good therapist to talk about the impact your childhood has had on you. Very brave of you to speak about it.

LadyLolaRuben · 21/02/2022 00:52

A heartbreaking read. Please looking into getting therapy, you deserve to be free of that horrendous childhood x

idiotmagnet · 21/02/2022 01:01

Please believe that this is very severe abuse. And please get help. I've been on the receiving end of some emotional abuse during childhood and have friends who have too, but what you describe is some of the most messed up, cruel stuff I've ever read. Please do not diminish it to yourself. I wish you all the very best.

Bartiperma · 21/02/2022 02:01

This is one of the saddest posts I've ever read. It's actually stopped me in my tracks. I really do hope you are ok and I believe finding a therapist and talking this through would really help you.
Although we all know that unfortunately child abuse happens, to see it written down in some detail, really has left me gob smacked that a mother could be like this.
Yes your mother was probably mentally ill and yes she was on her own and it's tough...but neither are an excuse for this horrid horrid abuse.
I bet you're a great mum and that in itself sticks 2 fingers up to her...call me petty but I'd personally right a letter to her detailing every lovely thing you do for your DC and how much joy it brings you both. Take care of yourself, wishing you the best.

Geppili · 21/02/2022 02:17

That is absolutely terrible emotional abuse. I am so sorry!

MrsBaublesDylan · 21/02/2022 02:54

Your Mum raised you to tolerate her abuse. She got pleasure from making you suffer.

She has conditioned you to ignore your needs/feelings and place her needs/feelings first.

I would doubt she thinks she was abusive. I'm relieved she has no contact with you or your dc.

You deserve peace and happiness. What a truly terrible childhood you and your sister had.

Please think about therapy. I think you need to grieve the childhood she took from you. I was abused as a child and therapy has helped enormously.

Namaste6 · 21/02/2022 03:56

@Knitternatter I'm so sorry that you experienced such an awful childhood. As others have suggested, please do seek professional counselling. I experienced a trauma in my own childhood and held on to it for many, many years. Professional counselling truly truly helped me to let go. What happens in our childhoods does not need to follow us through our own adulthoods.

You sound like a lovely mum who's giving her DS a childhood worth remembering. That's the most important thing. 🙏

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OneSwallow · 21/02/2022 04:15

That is a really sad read. Your mother sounds like she certainly has mental health problems and perhaps a personality disorder.
What a horrendous upbringing. 💐

ShowerOfShite · 21/02/2022 06:14

My heart broke reading that OP, I'm so sorry you and your sister were abused so badly.
I hope you can find some support professionally to help you untangle it all.
You sound lovely, wishing you all the best Flowers

Notsuchaniceguy · 21/02/2022 07:45

As everyone has said, that was abuse. Severe abuse. My parents didn't really want me and my mum was an alcoholic and so at times was frightening and unkind but what you describe was on a complete other level.

Do think about therapy, it can be very helpful. Shop around a bit if you have to, the fit between you and therapist is important.

I wish you all the best.

WordleDordle · 21/02/2022 09:21

Your mother was a monster.
Without therapy you will probably pass on some of the harmful patterns you will have internalised to your child.
Try reading some books by Alice Miller about how parents destroy their children's lives.
Good luck

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