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Splitting socialising costs

40 replies

gothisdilemma · 07/02/2022 18:43

I have a FWB.
We are definitely not going to end up moving in together or merge finances.

We got out to eat/drink/days out etc and try and split the costs evenly - which doesn't always work out as it's impossible to split everything 50/50 if you take turns to pay. Eg I might by using tickets to a play and then he might play for dinner beforehand which won't always equal exactly the same.

We are both very very sensitive about money. I have been financially abused by a family member and he has suffered re-occurring serious health issues which have resulted in paid time off work - luckily he has a very understanding boss/employer and a job for life in my eyes - but he is very anxious about being long-term ill and therefore is aiming to pay his mortgage off as soon as possible. I'm trying to lay down my mortgage to reduce my future monthly costs (see below)

I earn £36,000
He earns £55,000

We both run our own households, and have spare money which we both over pay into our mortgages.
My house equity is more than his, sadly thanks to an inheritance, but he has an amazing private pension to come when he retires, I have none.

I am planning to try and have a child using a sperm donator next year, and have no local family support so am likely to only be able to return to work part time for several years. He is childless and wants to remain so.

My question is this - how do we fairly split everything we pay for fairly?
For example because he is twice the size of me he will order more food than me when we eat out, he will also drink more than me, 2 pints to my 1 etc.
When I am out with female friends we tend to eat/drink similar amounts so it's never felt unfair to split the bill 50/50.
These aren't massive differences each time - which is why this seems so petty and why I have gone into detail about why we are so sensitive about money. We both get quite anxious about this - but it's seems massively weird to pay for our own things all the time. We go to cheap/mid-range places and I feel I can't suggest nicer places because I'll end up paying because it will be 'my turn'.

Any suggestions?
We have wildly different spending, eg I will buy new things a lot more than he will, my car is more expensive for example - so I think he thinks I'm easy going about money - which I am - apart from when I feel I'm subbing someone else's lifestyle.
He's spoken to me about his issues, but I've never told I'm him I feel he constantly gets an advantage.

Please don't be horrible to me, I know we are both privileged, but we both have suffered trauma from our pasts and this affects how we view money and security and causes us both distress.

I'd just like some advice on how to handle this please.

OP posts:
Woeismethischristmas · 07/02/2022 18:48

Just pay for what you have rather than split 50/50. I suppose in a pub you could just by him a drink on your round missing yourself as you’re going slower.

MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 07/02/2022 18:50

@Woeismethischristmas

Just pay for what you have rather than split 50/50. I suppose in a pub you could just by him a drink on your round missing yourself as you’re going slower.
This. Solved. You are friends. Friends don't sub or support lifestyles.
GentlemanJayFab · 07/02/2022 18:55

I had a FWB. In the early days I paid for most things or that's what it felt like. I think she was used to being taken out and treated by men.

I had to have a chat to her about sharing costs. From that moment on we did.

Valdes · 07/02/2022 18:57

This seems like a lot of overthinking for just a FWB. Would you do this amount of calculations with any of your other friends?

Blushinggerbil · 07/02/2022 19:02

Bit intense. Just pay for your own?

gothisdilemma · 07/02/2022 19:02

@Valdes

This seems like a lot of overthinking for just a FWB. Would you do this amount of calculations with any of your other friends?
Yes I know it's over-thinking, I think my post explains why I have this attitude towards the situation. I don't do it with anyone else, I don't socialise with any other men, my female friends tend to eat/drink the same amount as me and we split the even bill evenly.
OP posts:
Valdes · 07/02/2022 19:04

Maybe just splitting the costs as you would with any other friend is the way to go then? Smile

Valdes · 07/02/2022 19:05

I.e. everyone pays for their own share

Howshouldibehave · 07/02/2022 19:05

Just pay for what you have.

Clymene · 07/02/2022 19:07

Just pay for yourselves. If you're ending up subbing him because he eats and drinks more than you, it's not fair. Tell him you're initiating it because you need to save for your baby.

RedCandyApple · 07/02/2022 19:08

When I go out with my friends literally everyone just pays for what they order even drinks, we’ve never done 50:50 or ordering rounds each etc, everyone has always just paid for what they are buying tickets, if we were to pay for tickets to somewhere everyone just pays for their own?

VerveClique · 07/02/2022 19:08

Have a Kitty! Like literally a wallet with cash in it.

For every £50 you put in, he puts in £60.

That then covers everything you do together.

Sorted.

JangolinaPitt · 07/02/2022 19:11

Interesting. I am seeing f someone who drinks pints to my halves and pointedly asks whose round it is. Am going to suggest that he does two to my one…

KeepingAnOpenMind · 07/02/2022 19:13

He sounds pretty stingy.

Purplecatshopaholic · 07/02/2022 19:19

Defo have a kitty - it’s what I do with friends and it works brilliantly. Nothing worse than both of you secretly pissed off with the other about money!

Loopytiles · 07/02/2022 19:22

Don’t take turns.

Pay your personal share, eg one ticket, your food and drink.

Kitty won’t work either: he’d spend more of it.

MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 07/02/2022 19:25

No to Kitty. Then you are beholden to the holder.

Just both pay your own way, or decide you want more than FWB

VerveClique · 07/02/2022 19:26

If you can’t trust each other with a pre-agreed kitty and you get pissed off if it’s a few quid out either way… then… you have a FWB problem, not a money problem. (Remember, you should agree unequal amounts for the Kitty if he eats and drinks more.)

katepilar · 07/02/2022 20:31

I would just stay with each of you paying for yourself.

CouldIhaveaword · 07/02/2022 20:35

So you're friends with benefits. But he benefits more than you. Is he worth it?

HowlongWillThisTakeNow · 07/02/2022 21:03

If your FWB and not in a relationship, why all the interest with money, just split everything

MintLampShade · 07/02/2022 23:10

Why is paying for what you have is not an option? Your own ticket, your own meal, him the same. If I have an £8.50 pasta dish with a glass of wine, I definitely wouldn't want to pay for his premium steak and bottle of wine (for examples sake) and if you are meeting regularly, I imagine things do add up.
Just tell him straight, you don't need to reason with how much you / him earns and pensions and conception etc. That's over the top. You are FWBs, it shouldn't be this complicated, you don't really own each other anything tbf.

MintLampShade · 07/02/2022 23:11

*owe

Loopytiles · 10/02/2022 08:30

It doesn’t sound like it’s ‘a few pounds’, sounds like OP is subsidising her FWB, which is icky.

HollowTalk · 10/02/2022 08:37

I don't like the sound of this relationship at all. What I mean is I don't like the sound of him!

Why don't you both use cash and just put in what you each spend?