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What do I do now?

85 replies

Tears11 · 01/02/2022 18:26

Relationship with an ex drinker. Met him a few months after he quit. We've been together over a year now and it's been up and down. Highs and lows. I know that you are supposed to leave when things are not right but I guess it's been abit confusing for me and alot of stuff I'd need to explain than I feel I could possibly. I know I need to be completely honest on this post and I would appreciate people being kind as I'm currently sat in tears feeling pretty upset.

He has leant on me alot. This has been gradual. He was working when we met. Brilliant money. He was confident and painting himself as someone perfect for me. Within days he started mentioning his ex and planting seeds into My head. He would keep in touch with her and insist they were mates. He originally made out the split was mutual. Everything was great.

Overtime he told me about his depression and struggle with drink. But he was working and sorted. His stories didn't always add up looking back. He had this woman that he'd had a brief fling with after his ex that still harassed him. But I later found out he was still messaging her.

Throughout our relationship he would say things like. You'd look nice with shorter hair. Why don't you curl your hair. You suit a ponytail. Telling me what colours I suit etc.

Around 6 months into our relationship his back got so bad he had to quit working. I ofcourse wanted to support him and lent him money for the first month. Which he paid back. He isn't faking this. I've seen his scans. It's severe. It's chronic. He is going to need more operations. For 6 months he borrowed my money and paid me back on his universal credit days. Fair enough. He has tried Hard to get the GPS to help. He's had pip reject him so he's now appealing. I've chosen to buy his shopping and in return he's cooked for me alot. We've agreed he will give me some money when he returns to work for this. I buy his dog food.

Whilst he's been off work his depression has kicked in. He's been suicidal in the past. I've dealt with all his forms and phone calls with councils, charities, insurance companies etc. He's always shown appreciation and said he just freezes up with these things.

In 6 months as extras I've often picked him up toiletries. I got him a bracelet for Christmas even though he couldn't afford to get me anything. I've bought toys for his dog. I've bought little bits and bobs for him like candles and household stuff. I've lent him my tablet when his tele broke.

Over the last few months I've noticed a pattern in him screwing up my head. He plants little things in my mind. He's very clever at little stories of women he could have or women that have been inappropriate online. He points out attractive people and plays dumb when you bring up women he's mentioned in the past.

This last week I've found my fire I guess. I lost my patience about his ex. I told him I was absolutely sick to death of xyz and hearing about her. He told me this week she actually dumped him. Another lie. Another woman he claims was inappropriate with him saw us Sunday and absolutely went bright red and could barely talk. I asked him if something had happened in the past. He absolutely blew off.

Then today he asked me why I always dress in the same style. I have 8 pairs of jeggings in various shades of blue, black and grey. Some are ripped or have certain patterns. I wear them with a variety of jumpers or tops. I buy new tops most months. I asked him what he meant. He said don't you ever wear skirts or jeans. Why are you not confident. I told him I always try and look nice and we never go anywhere for me to even consider dressing up. I said perhaps your Ex had loads of different clothes but I have children and this is my style and budget. He walked out his house screaming at me that he wanted me gone when I got back.

I got my things and came back to my flat. He's blocked me on Facebook and sent Me a few blunt messages trying to tell me I'm wrong and I twist his head and I argue with myself like a little girl.

I know the obvious. But I need some help to understand and do the right thing. He is likely to talk to me again tomorrow as he relies on me. My heads struggling to find the strength to get out this situation. I'm genuinely frightened of him not being around as he gives me alot of love and care aswel. I'm stuck in a cycle of emotional abuse and don't know how to find the strength to stop.

OP posts:
Grimsknee · 02/02/2022 07:45

@Tears11

Thank you. I can't explain the constant highs and lows. The silent treatment. The punishments. The blocking me like a naughty girl then unblocking me and asking for money. Just to get away from the egg shells and sadness I give him the money and he warms up again. He cooks me dinner. Tells me I'm naturally pretty. Says he's so thankful for what I do. That he sleeps better when I'm there.

He makes me walk away from the road so I'm safe. He carries my bags. But when he's mad at me like today he leaves me to walk 3 miles alone. Suddenly I'm not important to him..

He's never touched me but said to me today that if I wasn't gone when he gets home he will push me out the door.

Sweetheart, this explains the constant highs and lows - it's a cycle that keeps you trapped. If he was horrible and abusive 100% of the time, you'd have run a mile long ago. breakthecycle.sa.gov.au/

Keep talking to women here, keep writing lists like you've written.
Also, if you're still hearing from him, try 'grey rock' as a strategy when you get those messages.
www.e-counseling.com/mental-health/what-is-the-grey-rock-method/

The thing about men like these, is once he realises he can't get any more out of you, he'll look for his next target. He'll be fine. Look after yourself!

Grimsknee · 02/02/2022 07:47

Ignore the shitty person above my comment btw. Keep posting OP

Unanananana · 02/02/2022 07:48

Don't respond AT ALL. Block him! Focus on yourself and your children rather than moping over that excuse for a 'DP'.You are not his carer. He doesn't give a shit about you, he just wants money.

pog100 · 02/02/2022 07:51

You are now giving him so much headspace, wondering about why he does stuff. As many have said above it doesn't matter why! It matters that he does and that he won't change. Just concentrate on the shit he does and and says and please end it. Now. You really can.

Anniegetyourgun76 · 02/02/2022 07:53

Hon you know what you need to do, if you feel like you're going to break and contact him just come on here and talk to us instead xx

ElectraBlue · 02/02/2022 07:54

He us an abuser and a user OP.

That's what they do: make you feel insecure, mess with your head, gaslighting, so you start doubting yourself and your grasp on reality and make you co-dependent.

Deep down you know he is not a good man. He probably has done the same thing to many women. Cut your loses, dump him and block him everywhere.

Tears11 · 02/02/2022 08:00

I'll look at the links thank you. I am trying my best to not overthink. I guess even though I do know what he's doing there's still a tiny part of me that wonders if I am to blame. Like he said he never argued with his ex like me. But they split because of insecurities and lies and not wanting to spend time doing the same things. Be ended up messaging an old school friend and had a fling with her after his ex dumped him.
I don't think he's ever totally got over her. But she still messages him herself and has some emotions with him still.

I appreciate people having time to talk it through with. Thank you.

I'll update as the day goes on. I appreciate the tips. Thank you.

OP posts:
Stormtropper5000 · 02/02/2022 08:11

Just block him OP.

Don't be giving him all this headspace.

Block, block, block

velvetpeach · 02/02/2022 08:17

You posted about him a lot last year didn't you? The hair thing and his drink problem is so familiar. Those posts were all about how you had broken up and were no longer together as he was so terrible, how did you end up back with him and further enmeshed?!

The answer to that will help you work through how to break away fully. Start with blocking and deleting him though.

SortingItOut · 02/02/2022 08:23

Do you work?
What hobbies do you have?
Friends?

Your whole life seems to be about him and what he needs, it sounds exhausting.
What do you do for you?

Brakebackcyclebot · 02/02/2022 08:46

My mum was rubbish at emotional support though and I don't feel I got the warmth and loving bond others share with their mums

This stood out in your post OP. Your mum didn't give you emotional warmth and you're looking for it in your adult relationships. Let me guess - she was hard to please, and you would have loved nothing more than some love/praise/being noticed by her. So you kept trying? She set you up nicely for abusive relationships in your future, with thus very same pattern.

People like him feed on empaths like you. Your empathy makes you vulnerable to his tactics. And his tactics are all about making you dependant and keeping you where he wants you - feeling small and doing everything for him.

I know you know this is abuse, and you know what you need to do. Take it in little but powerful steps.

Block him on all contact methods. Do it now.
Change your phone number.
Tell a close friend what has happened.
Focus on YOU. What do you enjoy? Make a list and do one thing on it every single day.
When you feel wobbly go to your list of all the things he did to remind yourself.
Make a list of all the good things you have in your life, stick it up and focus on that.
Take deep breaths.
Go for a walk.

Imagine your future self standing in front of you now. What would she say to you? What gift might she give you?

Remember the last time you felt courageous? Brave? Confident? How did you stand? What did you think? Tap into that now.....

It's like an addiction to heroin. You need to go cold turkey. It will be hard, you will want to go back. In those moments, what is the one thing that will stop you? Do that instead.

You can do this OP.

frozendaisy · 02/02/2022 08:47

If my partner compared me with other women he would be out the door.

Just block him.
And keep him blocked.
And look the other way.

Or don't and continue to live in this grinding down cycle going round and round, paying for all his stuff whilst being told your clothes are rubbish, your hair is wrong.

What's so great about him?
No job.
Smokes.
Can't fill out a form.
Always comparing you to any woman he can, all these great women that aren't with him, I wonder why?
Can't buy you a Christmas present.
Blocks you or storms out when you dare to however small stand up for yourself.
Tells you how to walk home.
But carries your bags sometimes.

He is not a catch.

He is nasty and useless. Please open your eyes and see this.

Put your love, time and effort into your children. They do really love you. As for Ex, please say he's an ex, he just wants a maid and an emotional punch bag. That is basically what you are with some secretary services thrown in. You are not an equal partner, you are not a cherished, adored, goddess girlfriend and never will be.

StEval · 02/02/2022 09:24

This stood out in your post OP. Your mum didn't give you emotional warmth and you're looking for it in your adult relationships. Let me guess - she was hard to please, and you would have loved nothing more than some love/praise/being noticed by her. So you kept trying? She set you up nicely for abusive relationships in your future, with thus very same pattern.

This
Essentially what you are doing is trying to put right/ heal the emptiness you feel with your mother.
This means you are desperately trying to keep this man happy and he is taking advantage.
She is emotionally distant as is he ( deliberate as part of the abuse cycle) but he throws you snippets of hope to get you hooked.
This is called Trauma Bonding.
Get as far away from this man as you can and get some counselling booked to explore the relationship with your mother.

Tyredofallthis1 · 02/02/2022 10:10

Sending hugs. It isn't easy, but you owe it to yourself.

You have value. You are a lovely caring woman or you wouldn't have done half as much for him. Wishing you all the luck in the world.

2DogsOnMySofa · 02/02/2022 10:48

Please prepare yourself for the text messages to start again. Next time he wants money he'll come back with a charm offensive. Best thing you can do is block him on all fronts. He's not good for you, he uses you and is only nice when he wants something. You can find all the things you liked about him in another fella who won't abuse you. Find your anger and self worth

Tears11 · 02/02/2022 13:14

Had a text this morning with a screenshot the woman he had a fling with after his ex text him last night. He told me he thought he had blocked her and was doing it now.

Then he text and said his head was banging and he had no milk left.

OP posts:
Hdhr8jsj · 02/02/2022 13:31

OP. Block him.

Seriously.

IcicleIcicle · 02/02/2022 13:41

Are you replying to his messages OP? He sounds extremely practised at reeling you back in so I'm not surprised you're struggling to break free. You do seem to be seeing it from a slightly more detached perspective this time though, his manipulation must seem very obvious in light of some of the replies you've had on this thread. You may not manage it this time but once you've started to see their behaviour for what it is it really is only a matter of time until you walk away.

frozendaisy · 02/02/2022 13:58

@Tears11

Had a text this morning with a screenshot the woman he had a fling with after his ex text him last night. He told me he thought he had blocked her and was doing it now.

Then he text and said his head was banging and he had no milk left.

And you replied "a walk in the fresh air to get some milk and painkillers will do you the world of good sorry got to get on, job, kids, life you understand"
youvegottenminuteslynn · 02/02/2022 13:59

Why haven't you blocked him?

He's now resorting to trying to make you jealous with that screenshot, he's pathetic.

Block him.

frozendaisy · 02/02/2022 13:59

Or even better "great reminder I forgot to block you yesterday"

frozendaisy · 02/02/2022 14:00

Lord he sounds dull.

If Mr Frozen had text me "I've ran out of milk" in our courting stage I would have totally reconsidered if I could live such a dull existence with someone.

RantyAunty · 02/02/2022 14:28

Yes, block him and read the list you made about the rotten things he's done to you over and over any time you feel like contacting him.

Moretodo · 02/02/2022 14:33

I've ran out of milk (your responsibility/I need you/helpless)
I've got a banging head (playing the victim)
Blocked this other woman (other women want me/can throw in your face later, what I gave up for you, so now you owe me something)

No mention of him physically throwing you from his house. No apology. tactics

thoughtcatalog.com/shahida-arabi/2017/11/this-powerful-manipulation-method-keeps-you-bonded-to-your-abuser/

The "trauma bond" only exists in denial. Where you are in two minds about the person he is, if he loves you or not, if you love him.
In that denial, we are lost and it leads to mental illness. In fact, it is a mental illness because we are not in reality.

Stay in reality.
Stop communicating with him. He is manipulating you and you are giving him the platform to do so.

He is harmful to you.

There is not a single voice on this thread that is saying otherwise.

Keep coming back to this thread for support. Lots of us have survived this, and can help you to navigate.

CatsBooksAndCoffee · 02/02/2022 14:38

@ColourMeExhausted

It's not you. It's 100% him. He has messed with your head. You sound so lovely and deserve much more than this. Refer to this thread whenever you feel he's trying to worm his way back in. Your life will ultimately be better without him in it, even though I know it doesn't feel like that right now.
This. Pretty much what I was going to say. You sound like a really lovely person OP who is being harmed by this 'man' who sounds Iike an utter c*nt that really does not deserve to have you in his life. As previous posters has said, you deserve so much more.

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