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Partner of 17 years cheated

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KaidensMum12 · 23/01/2022 10:38

I was with my partner since I was 13 years old I am now 30. We have 2 children together aged 6&2. I found out 2 weeks ago he had been messaging and meeting another woman.

Background- he was literally my first love, my best friend and what I thought was my soul mate. We got together really young but it was always me and him against the world. When I was 18 I fell pregnant and I had what was called a molar pregnancy, I had to have chemotherapy for 12 weeks after. We had a few miscarriages after that but went on to have 2 successful pregnancies. Times have been hard but we always got through.

Throughout the years like most couples we had our ups and downs but always got through it making us stronger. We've had people try and break us up in the past by spreading rumours etc but again never broke us.

Over the last few months it hasn't been great, Iv been working 3 jobs, looking after our children, running the house, making sure he was looked after and ok as he seemed down. I kind of felt like I was drowning with so much going on. I am far from a selfish person and always put him and the children first but I wouldn't have it any other way. Our children are not great sleepers so we got in the rut of sleeping separately with each of our children. At the time it worked as we all got a good night sleep but now I know that was probably the reason he has done what his done.

We both had a conversation and agreed we needed some help so we spoke to our drs and was prescribed sertraline. Things started to get a little easier and we pulled together as a team.

So over Christmas and new year we were getting along. He bought me a new car and we got our family dog. I thought things were ok but he kept going out a lot, randomly sneaking off saying he just needed to pop out but was gone over 2 hours, very secretive with his phone, pushing me away, playing the depressed card saying he needs to change and make money and get away on his own etc. I kept reassuring him everything would be ok and to not push me away and that if he needs anything he knows I'm here. I carried on struggling making ends meet with my jobs and the children.

Then one morning I just had a feeling that something wasn't right so I took his phone and went through it. There was extra passcodes to get into his what's app which I thought was strange. I got into the messages and there they were. Messages to another woman. He was telling her he loved her, how beautiful she is, felt like he won the lottery meeting her, discussing family trips away with our children her and her child, arranging meet ups, booking time off work to spend the day with her, telling her about how he can't wait to be hers properly, discussing sex etc. She was also in a relationship of 8 years and had a child with him. She broke it off with her partner the day before I found out.

When I confronted him he didn't know what to say other than he was sorry. He admitted it and said there was nothing sexual just a kiss. He was taking our son to a football match that afternoon so whilst he was gone I packed his stuff and took it all to his mums house. I spoke to her on the phone but she didn't give me much she wouldn't even tell me her name. All she told me was it had only been 4-6 weeks and that she was sorry. My partner didn't go back to his mums that whole weekend and woundnt answer his phone. It turned out she had paid for a hotel for him so he could get away and clear his head. He is adamant she was not there. I do not believe this. He has even lied saying she lives far away when I know that's not the case. I tried calling him a week later and she answered his phone. When I confronted him about this he kept saying she didn't and I am crazy but I clearly heard her. I don't know if she answered his phone without him knowing so he just turned on me making me out to be crazy and accusing him again.

I have had my good days where I think I'm ok but obviously Iv been having really bad days where I miss him. I have messaged a few times asking if he would speak to me face to face to give me some answers and some closure on our 17 years together but he won't have none of it. In actual fact he is being nothing but rude to me telling me this is my fault, I never showed him love, I took him for granted, im controlling etc I have told him I would love nothing more than for us to have some time apart to sort ourselves out then maybe start dating again to try get that spark back but he is just nasty saying I need to get it into my head we are over and he can do what he wants now.

I really don't know what I'm asking but I just don't know what way to turn. This is pain I have never ever felt before. My heart physically hurts. It is like I am grieving for my best friend. To be honest I don't know if I would ever be able to trust him again and I don't know if we would ever be the same again but at the same time I just miss him and us and our family so much. I don't understand how he is treating my like I never existed, no respect for my feelings or well being. It's like I don't know who he is anymore. It's so heart breaking. I think it would of been a bit easier if we had just broken up but knowing there is someone else is just killing me.

Does anyone have any advice? Been in the same situation? Does it get easier? What do I do going forward?

Sorry it was a long read x

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KaidensMum12 · 26/01/2022 08:39

@Rodeodown I'm so sorry that you went through this to. It's awful isn't it.
Il be honest and say I have been messaging and asking him to come home and sort things out but as you said he is saying he isn't happy and wants to sort his head out and needs some time. I know deep down that this other woman is still on the scene even though his denying it. It's such a rubbish situation. I don't know why I feel so weak without him.
Did you ex ever come back to you? I will also send you a private message x

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KaidensMum12 · 26/01/2022 08:55

@LittleKitten1 I'm sorry you have been through this to. It's so hard isn't it. When he down played it did he ask for forgiveness straight away or leave you? My ex has flipped this round and blaming me saying he isn't coming back.
"I was so terrified of being alone, being lonely, him loving someone else more than me. Them having a future together. So painful to think of it." - this is exactly how I feel and I can't shift the feeling which is why I think I want him back.
Oh my god I can't believe he did it again after so long! Did you forgive him again or let him go?
That's my biggest fear!
I am trying so hard to be strong but it's so hard when trying to look after the children. I want to be brave. This feeling in my belly I am getting just makes everything harder and is a constant reminder. Ah I'm so glad you found your happily ever after I wish that would happen to me. X

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KaidensMum12 · 26/01/2022 08:58

@Tamworth123 wow everything you have said is so true and makes sense! Thank you, this has given me a wake up call and made me realise a lot. X

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KaidensMum12 · 26/01/2022 09:04

@layladomino yeah I do feel it was a one sided relationship to be honest but since breaking up he has flipped this onto me blaming me for his cheating and blaming me for how he felt etc. I just can't get my head around it. I done everything for that man and now I'm left feeling guilty and upset and broken. He said I took him for granted and he warned me this was going to happen.
"Maybe if he'd pulled his weight the emotional side wouldn't have drifted." I did say this to him and he just laughed.
I do think life will be easier without him but I just really miss my best friend and feel so bad on my children that their daddy isn't coming home. I blame myself. Maybe I am a bad person.
"He doesn't deserve you. I beg you not to even consider taking him back. Give yourelf time and you'll realise your life is much better without him." He says I don't deserve him! I have asked him to come home and he has said no and that he needs time to sort his head out etc x

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MrMrsJones · 26/01/2022 09:07

How old is he?

Malibu19880 · 26/01/2022 09:19

You really need to be strict with yourself and not message him. I know you are in so much pain and looking for some hope or some kind of reassurance that he will come back to you but ultimately you need to shift your focus in order to heal from this.

You absolutely must cease contact for a period of time and don’t beg or plead with him. He has treated you appallingly, don’t give any more of your power away to him.

I know it’s so hard, but you really have to try your best. If you feel the urge to text him and it all gets overwhelming please post in this thread instead.

Not only has he cheated on you, he’s now gaslighting you and completely disrespecting you with his behaviour. Is that the kind of person you really want to be with? The kind that can so easily treat you this way? All relationships have their ups and downs and yeah sometimes the downs can be really bad but did you run into the arms of someone else when things were bad? Of course you didn’t. He made a conscious choice, now he won’t take responsibility for his actions because he’s a coward. You deserve someone who will love and respect you and not f*ck someone else when things get rough! Keep reminding yourself of that.

KaidensMum12 · 26/01/2022 09:24

@MrMrsJones he is 31

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KaidensMum12 · 26/01/2022 09:30

@Malibu19880 I know I need to be strong. I am literally showing him I have absolutely no respect for myself! I know deep down this is exactly what he wants and I'm just playing into his hands it's just so hard when I feel so broken and lonely.

Yeah I need to gain control back and not give him the satisfaction of messaging him. Yeah I will try and do that instead. I can't keep doing this to myself. I'm hurting enough.

No it's really not. My head is telling me I need to walk away with my head held high and remember my worth but my heart is telling me I love and miss him and our family and that I need him. It's so s**t! That's the thing. I gave him 17 years of my life, I was faithful and I have only ever been with him. Never would I of done this to him. How can you do that to someone you love then blame them! I literally don't know who he is anymore. I hope he regrets what his done/doing and I hope I'm in a place where I can reject him if he tries to come back. X

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HippeePrincess · 26/01/2022 09:42

Why the fuck would you beg for this piece of shit to come back? He doesn’t love or respect you, now you need to find some love and respect for yourself and quit begging him to be with you. You’re showing him how little self respect you have and why would should he have any for you when you’ll accept how he has treated you?

What makes you think it would be any different next time? You’ve shown him you’ll be cheated on and beg for him to pick you, so what would be the incentive to be faithful to you in future?
Why would you accept someone sticking his dick in someone else, while you’ve been supporting the family with 3 jobs and doing what sounds like all the wife work too?
You might think this is harsh but you’ve wasted all of your youth and best years of your life with this poor excuse of a man, partner and father, don’t waste any more.
And don’t let him off paying maintenance, tell him what to pay and by when or send his details to child maintenance and they’ll tell him what to pay or start deducting from his pay. They don’t backdate so do it ASAP.

KaidensMum12 · 26/01/2022 09:58

@HippeePrincess Ino Ino. I don't understand myself. I just feel so weak. Iv just lost my best friend and I need to accept it. I have said for so many years that I would never accept cheating which is why I kicked him out and packed his stuff the day I did find out but for some reason I am now feeling bad and I know I shouldn't. The way you have worded everything is what I needed to hear. Someone putting it bluntly. I am being pathetic I know. If I have no respect for myself then he isn't going to is he. I guess he is all I know so the thought of doing this alone scares me a lot. I need to pull myself together and find the strength to get through this

Why the fuck would you beg for this piece of shit to come back? He doesn’t love or respect you, now you need to find some love and respect for yourself and quit begging him to be with you. You’re showing him how little self respect you have and why would should he have any for you when you’ll accept how he has treated you?

What makes you think it would be any different next time? You’ve shown him you’ll be cheated on and beg for him to pick you, so what would be the incentive to be faithful to you in future?
Why would you accept someone sticking his dick in someone else, while you’ve been supporting the family with 3 jobs and doing what sounds like all the wife work too?
You might think this is harsh but you’ve wasted all of your youth and best years of your life with this poor excuse of a man, partner and father, don’t waste any more.
And don’t let him off paying maintenance, tell him what to pay and by when or send his details to child maintenance and they’ll tell him what to pay or start deducting from his pay. They don’t backdate so do it ASAP.

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HippeePrincess · 26/01/2022 10:10

I do understand perhaps more than you know, I was with my ExH from aged 16 to 27/28, so at the point of us separating it’s all I’d know for all of my adult life. It was scary and I took him back and put up with a lot too many times before enough was enough.
But he won’t treat you better if you get back together, it gets worse.

KaidensMum12 · 26/01/2022 10:13

@HippeePrincess it is scary I never thought I'd be in this situation. If he had just broken up with me and said he was unhappy I probably would of been a bit better. But knowing there is someone else he is loving and being sexual with makes me feel sick. It hurts so bad. It's out of my control though and there is nothing I can do except be strong for me and my children.
I know the right thing to do is walk away becayse things would never ever be the same if we got back together.

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HippeePrincess · 26/01/2022 10:19

It’s the worst kind of betrayal.
It always helped me getting the practical stuff sorted, made me feel more mentally capable.

Newschapter · 26/01/2022 10:37

A friend's dh had affairs on and off for years.

She found a burger phone and text msgs confirming these. Times and places and women's names.

She threw him out. He was begging to come home, went on the charm offensive, flowers, gifts, letters POETRY ffs.

He then turned like a snake. It was HER fault he needed sex elsewhere, she didn't pay him attention, she didn't tell him she loved him enough, she wasn't slutty enough, she didn't take care of herself, she didn't look after the house well enough... and on and on...

He started sending flying monkeys, neighbours, his family, his friends all to tell her she needed him, she needed to take him back and forgive him as he was remorseful, as he missed her, he needed to see the kids, he was depressed, her menopause was to blame Hmm the fact she had surgery was to blame Hmm but poor poor him...he was depressed, he needed these other women to adore him, to suck his cock and massage his fucking ego.

What an absolute ballbag.

She isn't taking him back, and you don't need to take yours back either. She served him with divorce papers Grin

Newschapter · 26/01/2022 10:37

*burner phone

Soz for typos.

TurtleBackUp · 26/01/2022 10:41

I've been here and yes it hurts.

OP, please don't message him. You will look back at this and cringe for doing that to yourself. You will never get the answers you want / need to hear - the person you knew if gone. Do not discuss anything with him and do not contact him.

Getting practical is the way I managed. Changed the locks, claimed Child Maintenance - and kept busy.

You can do this and you have to do this. It gets easier. Took me a year or two to recover after the loss. You can either dwell over the unfairness of it all or pick yourself up with dignity - and be the best you can be.

Good luck

KaidensMum12 · 26/01/2022 10:47

@Newschapter oh my god sounds absolutely awful! Your poor friend. That's the thing he isn't even slight interested in coming back. It's all about him. He needs space. He needs time. He is depressed. He needs to sort his head out. He needs get away. It's bs! I don't deserve to be treated like this. Thing is I don't actually want him back it's just I don't want her to have him that may sound very selfish of me I'm just hurting that's all. I need to respect myself and not contact him and show him I'm ok without him! I'm so glad your friend got away hopefully I will to x

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KaidensMum12 · 26/01/2022 10:49

@TurtleBackUp I am cringing now to be fair and I'm gutted that Iv shown him I'm so weak and that I still need him. I need to gain control back and start respect myself.
I can do it I know I can I just need to be strong and stop letting myself get weak becayse I'm better than that. I need to stop believing him when he blames me. Thank you for messaging x

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Newschapter · 26/01/2022 10:52

@TurtleBackUp

I've been here and yes it hurts.

OP, please don't message him. You will look back at this and cringe for doing that to yourself. You will never get the answers you want / need to hear - the person you knew if gone. Do not discuss anything with him and do not contact him.

Getting practical is the way I managed. Changed the locks, claimed Child Maintenance - and kept busy.

You can do this and you have to do this. It gets easier. Took me a year or two to recover after the loss. You can either dwell over the unfairness of it all or pick yourself up with dignity - and be the best you can be.

Good luck

This exactly. My friend booked std tests, filed for a non molestation order, made sure school etc knew, sorted bills into her own name (which I see you've done)

Let her have him, if she wants your rubbish, I am sure she's welcome to it. Won't be long til he's doing the same to her.

KaidensMum12 · 26/01/2022 10:59

@TurtleBackUp they are welcome to each other the scum bags. They have wrecked 2 family homes so I hope they are happy with themselves. They deserve each other and karma will come around for them both.

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I0NA · 26/01/2022 11:28

[quote KaidensMum12]@Nanny0gg he won't have an adult conversation with me. So we are yet to discuss what he'll be paying for his children each month. He said he will but he also said a lot of other things and hasn't stuck to it so I don't know. [/quote]
He doenst get to decide how much he pays, unless it’s more that the legal minimum . It’s based on his income and the number of nights he has the kids. He’s obviously have the kids zero nights now so bad eit on that.

Get onto the calculator now and work it out, email it to him if you like. Tel him he’s got 7 days to agree to that and have the first payment in your bank account . After that you will lodge a claim with CMS. If he doesn’t pay they will take it out his wages plus an extra 20%.

Do this all my email today. NOT TEXT OR PHONE. You don’t need to speak to him about it - he is using your desire to talk to punish you. Stop it right now .

I0NA · 26/01/2022 11:39

Oh and I can also tell you why he cheated, so you don’t have to wait to ask him. He cheated for the same reason that 99.9% of people cheat - their sense of entitlement .

All the other supposed reasons that people give are reasons to talk to your partner ( unless of course they are severely abusive and you are at risk ) and then leave if it can’t be resolved.

I’ve never yet seen a reason that made it ok to cheat.

Of course your relationship changed over 17 years from 13 - 30. It would be odd if you both still behaved like school kids. That’s how life is. I hope I’m not living the same life in 15 years that I’m living now . It’s called being an adult.

And I also bet that the rumours about him had some basis in fact. Very few people have the motive or energy to go around trying to split up other peoples marriages for no reason .

Crikeyalmighty · 26/01/2022 11:40

Thing is OP— keep busy, concentrate on your family and friends— don’t bother thinking about them— what has this other woman gained? A cheating piece of shit - that’s what and in 6 months time she will be looking over her shoulder— how you win them is very often how you lose them. Keep calm, Be matter of fact with him (they hate it) and claim absolutely all you can .

Tamworth123 · 26/01/2022 12:12

@DrinkFeckArseBrick

Hi OP

I've read your OP and updates and think when you read back you'll realise it wasn't the best relationship to start with. People spreading rumours about you to split you up sounds suspicious. He sounds like he massively took advantage of you - you have kids, worked 3 jobs and put everyone else first but he says you took him for granted? You were trying to help his "depression" while he was looking elsewhere...what did he do to try and mend things before they got bad? Anyway I just wanted to say that I know that you might not see it now but one day you'll realise that he didnt deserve you and you're better off without him

This as well.

I think you mentioned putting him first etc. Why should he have been put first and prioritised and pandered to etc. Good relationships are supposed to be equal priority, equal support, equal consideration.

He sounds spoiled, selfish - even before the major stuff, and the dynamic of your relationship sounds very unequal and unfair.

Tamworth123 · 26/01/2022 12:18

Thing is I don't actually want him back it's just I don't want her to have him that may sound very selfish of me I'm just hurting that's all.

That's natural/understandable but he's not worth having so ..

Whether he's cheating or he's left, you can't control his actions.

Equally he can't control yours. You have just as much right to form relationships and be intimate with other people if and when you recover and choose to.

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