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My life is chaos

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SadSteven2022 · 15/01/2022 11:27

Hi everyone

Apologies if this is not the place to post this. I was a member of mumsnet a while ago and to be honest miss the conversations on here. I have many issues going on in my life and If I was to describe them in detail I would literally be here for days. The main issue is my life now is family. Around 2017 (when I was 27) my dad became very ill, and eventually in 2019 was diagnosed with a life limiting illness and was not expected to live beyond five years. Unfortunately, as an only child I took on a lot of the caring responsibilities at a great cost to my own social life. Flash forward to 2022, he is now in full time care which has assisted in having some of my life back. Prior to 2019 I had my own place but moved back in to help my mum with the caring responsibilities. Now at the age of 31 I am still living at home which is embarrassing but it is my relationship with my mum which is now really affecting my health. Despite my age she does try to control everything in my life, she likes everything her own way and acts very passive aggressively when she does not get her own way. My anxiety is literally through the roof all the time, I have poor self-esteem and just generally have given up with life.

This bring me onto the other issue which is girlfriends. I was in an abusive and toxic relationship for four years, ending in 2018. Although living together for a short time I never properly moved in. Due to my strange relationship with my mother, I rarely tell her things about my personal life. Therefore, I never mentioned to her that I had a girlfriend, however, she eventually found out via Facebook and hit the roof as I had not told her. She immediately took a disliking to her, despite never meeting her which damaged the relationship from the start. I think the issues my mum had with her were the fact she was unemployed and on benefits, ten years older than me and had three children. I think part of the issue was I was trying to make everyone happy and just felt nothing I ever did was good enough.

Anyway, fast forward onto 2019 and I entered another relationship. At the start it was a friends with benefits sort of thing which we both agreed to. However, by the end of the year we had developed feelings for one another and were in a relationship. My current girlfriend is nine years older than me and has two children. She is a very nice person and I do enjoy spending time with her. However, I have not told my mother about her despite it being two years later. I suppose I am just worried about how she will react again and to be honest cant be bothered with all the hassle of people bickering and trying to play happy families again. I know she is unlikely to approve. In a way it is easier just to keep my personal lives separate if that makes sense. However, as you can imagine my girlfriend has had enough of this and feels still spending three days a week together is not enough. She is looking to move house and wants me to move in with her but I am not sure if this is what I want. As much as I love her I am not sure if I really want to be with her. Although I get on with her two children, the younger one really does my head in, constantly screaming and wanting his own way. He is always damaging things in the house from jumping over everything. The dad is not that involved and as a result is literally there all the time, I feel suffocated by him and would not know how I would manage living with him full time. At least in other relationships the father generally has the children one/two weeks a month or similar arrangements. I appreciate he is a typical 5/6-year-old but I feel I have less patience with him as he is not mine, definitely a “its not you it’s me sort of thing”. The older child is much older and does their own thing and we get on fine. The other issue is she is 40 years of age and has stated it is unlikely she would have any more children. I am in two minds whether I want children or not but the issue is if I stay with her it is unlikely I will have children with her. Even if she changed her mind, by the time we move in together and are settled I feel that biologically it is unlikely to happy anyway. The other smaller issue is that she lives about an hour away from me whilst my work and family are all within a twenty-minute drive. She has stated she would only by looking for houses local to her due to her children’s school and work being there and the fact she does not drive.

I am just not sure what to do and what I want in life. Am I being selfish? Am I out of order for thinking that her circumstances just do not fit in with mine and that we want different things? I have never felt so guilty in my life as I cannot give her what she wants now. On one hand I feel like I should end the relationship and find someone or a similar age or slightly younger who is childless and wants a family some day or should I try and make it work with this girl and would I regret is as the “one who got away”. I was diagnosed with mental health issues in 2019 and took a long-time off work as a result, I think this makes me very anxious and indecisive. I have booked in with a therapist this week who specialises in hypnotherapy and BWRT. I am hoping that this helps get my life back into some kind of order or at the very least helps with the anxiety.

Apologies for the long post, I suppose I am just looking for some advice in a non-judgemental way. Apologies if this causes offence to any women on here, it is certainly not intended to be. I appreciate it is very odd for a 31 year old man to be in this situation but I am trying to resolve it whilst trying not to hurt anyone.

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LeifSan · 15/01/2022 11:36

Seems like you have a lot of overbearing women in your life. It isn’t going to do you any good to go from your mums house where she is controlling to a girlfriends house where you want different things.

It’s also wise not to move in and become step-dad to a child you don’t have the patience for.

I think you need to move out of your mums and start living for yourself.

sorrysaywhatnow · 15/01/2022 11:36

You sound like you resent your girlfriends youngest, and she unfortunately (for you) will need to prioritise him over you.
I think you need to separate from your girlfriend, and find somewhere else to live so that when you do find the right person, it's largely irrelevant what your mother about it, about anything you choose to do in fact.

GreyCarpet · 15/01/2022 11:51

I think you need to move out, live alone, work on yourself and your self esteem and live the life you want to live.

It was admirable moving back home to help care for your dad but you need to live your won life now. The one you want.

SadSteven2022 · 15/01/2022 13:06

Thanks people.

I think your all right. It’s just how I go about it that’s the issue. I think I will really miss her but it’s my fault at the end of the day.

I think because my girlfriend works a lot, always has the kids and doesn’t have a lot of money I just feel guilty but then I need to remember I’m not the one that put her in That situation and I try to help her as much as I can.

Hopefully hypnotherapy can make me more decisive, less anxious and able to decide what I want and stand up to people.

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Nanny0gg · 15/01/2022 16:20

Definitely move out.

Definitely leave the girlfriend - if only for her children's sake.

Work on yourself (counselling?) before you have another relationship. Ask yourself (or bring up in counselling) why you go for older women with children. There's probably a lot of reasons we could list but I don't think that would be helpful.
But ideally, when you meet someone else, try and find someone with less 'baggage'. You don't seem to have experienced fun, uncomplicated relationships so far.

Out of curiosity, how old are you?

SadSteven2022 · 15/01/2022 16:35

@Nanny0gg

Definitely move out.

Definitely leave the girlfriend - if only for her children's sake.

Work on yourself (counselling?) before you have another relationship. Ask yourself (or bring up in counselling) why you go for older women with children. There's probably a lot of reasons we could list but I don't think that would be helpful.
But ideally, when you meet someone else, try and find someone with less 'baggage'. You don't seem to have experienced fun, uncomplicated relationships so far.

Out of curiosity, how old are you?

Hi I am 31
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AgentJohnson · 15/01/2022 16:44

If you haven’t ruled out having children of your own, why are you having relationships with much older women with kids?

I’m glad you’ve arranged counselling but you also need to move out and try being single for a while.

heyday · 15/01/2022 17:11

Start looking for your own space even if it is in a house share if that is all you can afford. You need space between you and your DM so you can start making your own decisions without guilt and stress. Then I think you should see less and less of your girlfriend until it naturally fizzles out. Take time for yourself to find yourself. You don't need to feel guilty over breaking up with your GF...not everybody wants to be taking on someone else's children and then live with them full time. Step back from it all, start standing up for yourself and start believing that you are worthy of, and entitled to, a happy, fulfilling life - one with the prospect of someday having children of your own.

Mich1986 · 15/01/2022 17:20

I agree with everyone else, you need to break up with her. I have a 5 year old and if i got a new partner and they thought this about my child, then I wouldn't want to be with them. It's never going to work out or be right for you, so leave now, you are wasting your time and hers.

SadSteven2022 · 15/01/2022 18:12

@Mich1986

I agree with everyone else, you need to break up with her. I have a 5 year old and if i got a new partner and they thought this about my child, then I wouldn't want to be with them. It's never going to work out or be right for you, so leave now, you are wasting your time and hers.
I agree with what you say. However, I haven’t said anything about her son at all. Never been nasty to him or raised by voice or anything. I just find him a bit much that’s all.

I do love this woman but feel like our lives are too different. I’m younger and career minded and she has a job she’s happy in and two children. Feel like a scumbag if I finish things and feel like I’m wasting her time I I don’t. Literally feel liek the worst person in the world.

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SadSteven2022 · 15/01/2022 18:13

By the above comment I mean I’ve never actually said anything about her son to her if you get what I mean.

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Mich1986 · 15/01/2022 18:21

Yes totally get it, kids are hard work, especially at that age, but if he does your head in now, there is no way you could live together.
You definitely are not a scumbag, but the longer you stay with her, the worse it will get and you really will be wasting her time.

LilyWater · 15/01/2022 18:38

@SadSteven2022 you're only 31! You're in your prime and there are plenty of great women around your age who don't have children with other men and are emotionally healthy. Seek these women out so you don't have to deal with the difficulties and drama of other peoples children. I'd say the same to a woman too.

Before any other relationship, go for therapy. As someone said, it's abnormal you're going for these complicated relationships! You're doing the typical thing of choosing women who are like your mother.

SportsMother · 15/01/2022 18:43

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CagneyNYPD1 · 15/01/2022 18:47

From the outside, it is very clear what you need to do. You need to move out of your mother's home. End the relationship with your gf because you can not be the partner she needs you to be.

Move out and work on your self esteem and confidence. Rebuild your social life. Work on your boundaries with your mother. You did an admiral thing in moving back home to help look after your father. But you are only 31 and there is a whole world out there.

SadSteven2022 · 16/01/2022 10:37

Thanks for the comments people. Breaking up with someone is easier said than done though.

I feel at 31 I’m a bit past it to be honest most people my age are settled and having kids.

I think what I will do is have a few sessions of therapy and see how I feel and discover if I really see a future in this relationship.

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TillyTopper · 16/01/2022 10:43

I think you need to move away from your mum's place and live on your own for a bit. Well done on all the caring and help you gave to your Dad - I know that's hard. But don't feel you have to go from 1 relationship where you are looking after someone to another. How about you take time for yourself and be alone for a bit. Sounds like you do get out socially as you've had a couple of girlfriends, but perhaps be on your own for a bit to enjoy just being you.

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EmmasMum12 · 16/01/2022 10:56

Good lord.... you're definitely NOT past it! You're young with many many years ahead of you....

Move into a place of your own, end the relationship and start some therapy to help you focus on what you want for you and to.learn more about who you are

When you're ready to date again it might be that the therapy will have helped you to no longer need a mother type girlfriend with a ready made family.

Keepitonthedownlow · 16/01/2022 11:03

Have you had counselling to work out why you keep having relationships with older women with kids when it clearly doesn't suit you?

One reason could be that you are scared of getting hurt so you choose unsuitable people. Another is that you are ambivalent about being a father so again choose someone not able to be a parent with you. You should definitely get your own place and get counselling, before life passes you by.

Just to add you are obviously a very caring person, and deserve to be happy Flowers

EarthSight · 16/01/2022 11:19

The mistake you made was moving back in with your parents. Ideally, it probably would have been better if you had found somewhere that was close by, but still had your own place to back to, even if to just maintain that sense of autonomy and boundaries.

I think the issues my mum had with her were the fact she was unemployed and on benefits, ten years older than me and had three children

Errr....yes. I can see why she was concerned about that.

Despite my age she does try to control everything in my life, she likes everything her own way and acts very passive aggressively when she does not get her own way

I don't blame you for not telling her about your personal life. Does she respect boundaries? Is she intrusive as well?

I think this makes me very anxious and indecisive

I don't think you will manage to be decisive until your anxiety dampens down.

Why have you ended up with two partners who were 9 - 10 years older than you? It's unlikely that's a coincidence. Do you feel drawn to older women? I wonder if on some level you are looking for a solid, decisive figure who is willing to tell you what to do as that relieves you of having to make decisions. Do you think you might be drawn to women with children because you think that because they're busy with their kids, fewer demands will be placed on you?

SadSteven2022 · 16/01/2022 17:39

Totally agree. I think as long as I manage to get this sorted within the next 12 months i should be ok.

I hate the feeling of guilt it’s the worst thing ever. Don’t know how to end it without feeling guilty, hurting her and as strange as it sounds I do love spending time with her. I’m hoping in a few months time after therapy I will be a different person.

Is it strange for a 31 year old man to be with a 40 year old woman with two children despite having no children of his own?

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EmmasMum12 · 16/01/2022 18:52

I think if you're 100% happy with your girlfriend then great. But you're not 100% happy. And you're young.... go find happiness 😊

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 16/01/2022 18:55

Wow. Your main problem is your overbearing Mum.

That will affect all the current and future relationships you have.

I'd really suggest some counselling to get to grips with it.

Alcemeg · 16/01/2022 19:30

OP I recognise the patterns of your worldview because I'm similar and am still working on it... despite being twice your age!

The way you see life, there are REAL PEOPLE with LEGITIMATE FEELINGS AND THOUGHTS... and then, somewhere in the background, is you, a hazy figure, with your silly ideas and stupid worthless feelings (if you could actually work out what they are).

Presumably this comes from a lifetime of having your thoughts and feelings discounted; but never mind, the thing to focus on from now on is not the past, but the future: how to correct this distortion.

I just knew when reading your first post that you'd get to this sooner or later:
Am I being selfish? Am I out of order for thinking...
Until you can give proper weight to your own thoughts and feelings, your dealings with other people are like trying to play tennis with a ball that's been turned inside out.

Somehow you need to get to a point where you (a) know how you feel and (b) give it at least as much value as other people's feelings. This is easier said than done, but unless you can manage it, you will always be living reactively -- focusing so much on what everyone around you wants/needs that you have no time to evaluate your own priorities.

Some time alone would serve you well, to get away from your mum and re-think what you want from a relationship. I suspect the relationships you've had so far have intensified through your efforts to meet the needs of another person, not let them down or disappoint them. Yet part of being human is that we can't avoid disappointing others. It's just the way it is. We have to accept that and come to terms with it.

How about not disappointing yourself? Don't lose sight of what you want from life. (Figure it out first, then keep it in mind, and give yourself permission to have it.)