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ShinyGreenElephant · 02/01/2022 22:19

I've split with my husband of 5 years. He's an alcoholic, ever since his dad died when I was pregnant with our eldest he lost control of his relationship with alcohol and he's never got it back. Its been up and down and he's tried but he's really bad at the moment. Also struggling with depression and severe anger issues. Some of his behaviour has been aggressive and awful - smashing stuff in front of the kids, screaming at me, throwing stuff at me. He goes between being so so sorry and apologetic and desperate to change, to being nasty and horrible and fighting me on everything.

Weve been living apart for nearly a year now (and it was on and off before then) but there have still been incidents where he's been abusive in front of the kids even since he moved out. We have a 3 year old and a nearly 1 year old together - he cant take the baby without me because shes breastfed and more so because he's never really developed a relationship with her- its hard so he doesn't bother. He takes the 3 year old to the park or his mums but I cant let him have her in the evening or overnight because of his drinking, and sometimes I have to stop him taking her when I can see he's over the limit from the night before. But contact with me there is not great either because he can sometimes be horrible to me which I don't want them to see, and because my nerves are absolutely shot to pieces with him in my home all the time.

Were not divorced yet because I'm absolutely terrified of it going to court. I've got some evidence of DV (no physical violence but everything else) including texts from him admitting to some of it and photos of damage. Ive got a log going back years. He also has an awful criminal record and has been to prison for assault (this was painted to me in a very very different light before we got married and I stupidly believed him). However, he took his ex to court for access and he won, despite all of this. He now has his daughter eow, alternate birthdays and Christmases despite her not wanting to go and him not looking after her properly (when she came here she wouldn't brush her teeth for the whole week for example, he wouldn't make her and would have a go at me if I tried. There's a million examples like that). He would also try his best to stop her mum speaking to her at all over Christmas- I used to make sure she could and it caused awful rows. I'm terrified of this happening with my girls. Its keeping me up at night. He wouldn't take care of them properly and there's a huge chance something awful would happen due to his drinking and cocaine use. Also the baby in particular would be terrified and miss me dreadfully - the 3 year old adores him but thats because he does absolutely no parenting just buys sweets and takes her on the swings. He would 100% go for eow just to spite me - he keeps using it as a weapon to scare me if I do something he doesn't like. To be fair he does absolutely adore them, but as little playmates. He's never done any of the work ever, with them or his other kids. He will just sit and get drunk and have a laugh with them, giving them sweets and having the TV on then pass out drunk and leave them to it.

But the court will give him unsupervised access. I know they will. Then I won't have any control to protect them. So I'm stuck. What can I do? I've tried to keep things okay with him to keep him in AA and therapy, acting like we won't get divorced etc but he is absolutely destroying my mental health and its not good for the kids to see the arguments and the nastiness towards me when hes having a bad day.

Any ideas? There's noone else to supervise contact - his mum is another heavy drinker with massive dogs who has only met the baby twice and isn't really interested in the toddler. His dad is dead. My family think I need to keep him away from the kids and womens aid have said the same, but I dont think it would push him into sorting himself out, I think it would push him into taking me to court, and then I couldn't protect my babies from him at all. Hes done anger management and parenting courses in the past and thinks its all a big joke, talks a good talk but doesn't listen to a word. Comes across very very charming in person, I was so so fooled.

What the hell do I do? He wasn't always like this, I wish he would go back to the person I fell in love with at least for the kids sake. But this person he is now, part of me wishes he would just fuck off away and never ever come back

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ShinyGreenElephant · 02/01/2022 22:22

God that was long, sorry. Should also mention he has been couch surfing for the last year, has all our savings in his name and won't give me a penny (if there's any left) and only pays child support if hes in his nice mode. I've had nothing since the start of November

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ShinyGreenElephant · 02/01/2022 23:01

Anyone?

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13yearslater · 02/01/2022 23:09

"My family think I need to keep him away from the kids and womens aid have said the same, but I dont think it would push him into sorting himself out, I think it would push him into taking me to court"

Let him.

13yearslater · 02/01/2022 23:14

TBH I'm struggling to understand why you had another baby with this bloke. Is he rich?

13yearslater · 02/01/2022 23:14

Famous?

13yearslater · 02/01/2022 23:14

Hung like a donkey?

13yearslater · 02/01/2022 23:16

If you won't listen to Women's Aid there's not much anyone can advise.

ShinyGreenElephant · 02/01/2022 23:16

@13yearslater but then the court give him access unsupervised to two little girls who can't stand up for themselves if he turns on them the way he turns on me, too little to tell me what goes on, whether he gives them a proper dinner or 6 packets of crisps, and what about when he passes out drunk and they set the house on fire or choke etc? Id love to believe that the courts would protect them but the fact is, they will always give the dad contact in the end, even if he's abusive. And he's only abusive to me not them. They won't care about that.

Just scares me to death

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ShinyGreenElephant · 02/01/2022 23:18

And yeah I'm confused about that too. Id already thrown him out but we tried again in lockdown 1 because I didn't want him coming back and forth from the house share he was in. Then ended up pregnant so tried again for that reason. Two very poor decisions from me

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13yearslater · 02/01/2022 23:20

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ShinyGreenElephant · 02/01/2022 23:21

Its not that I won't listen to them I've taken a lot of their advice but I've seen first hand what happens when it goes to court - he wins despite everything pointing to him being an absolute horror

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Aquamarine1029 · 02/01/2022 23:22

Listen to your family and Women's Aid. You are not being sensible. Let the fucker take you to court, and you can throw every bit of evidence you have against him. Keep detailed records and call the police each and every time he kicks off or threatens you.

13yearslater · 02/01/2022 23:22

Did he tell you about his 'awful criminal record' before or after you walked down the aisle?

ShinyGreenElephant · 02/01/2022 23:24

He didn't have issues with alcohol until after we were married. He seemed like an amazing dad fighting for access to his daughter and the assault charge was painted as him being a big hero and getting the blame. He liked a drink, but it was when I was pregnant with our 3 year old his dad died and he went off the rails and never got back on them and its been downhill from there. Hes not always like this, a lot of the time he is trying and I see glimpses of the old him. But more and more now he absolutely terrifies me

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13yearslater · 02/01/2022 23:26

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ShinyGreenElephant · 02/01/2022 23:28

@13yearslater he played it down hugely and I was a complete and utter mug. Hes only told me details when hes been drunk in the last few years. I thought it was a few fights as a teenager but it was right through his life on and off. He's been arrested twice since we've been married as well but never charged, fighting in pubs both times

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13yearslater · 02/01/2022 23:28

Again, at what point did he tell you about his 'awful criminal record' ?

ShinyGreenElephant · 02/01/2022 23:30

@Aquamarine1029 but do you honestly think they won't give him access? They will just advise a few AA sessions then court order me to hand my kids over to someone theyre not safe with

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justbegoodforme · 02/01/2022 23:31

You will regret your poor decisions in years to come. Make the right decision now and leave.
Give your children a chance.

Bonster37 · 02/01/2022 23:31

My heart goes out to you. What a shit situation to be in. I would keep him sweet and get some legal advise from a solicitor. If you have evidence, maybe you can push for supervised visits on a contact centre. Surely taking cocaine and alcohol abuse make him a concern. I’d play the long game like you are doing and document everything until you have enough to get the fucker out of your life.

abw94 · 02/01/2022 23:32

Wow I am shocked at these replies and OP I really hope you don't take them to heart.

Clearly they have not been manipulated by anyone and do not realise abuse is mental because this is clear what this man has done.

I don't know what to do advise for the best but seems like you have good evidence to show what a shithead he is of a partner and father so try and gather as much as this as possible. I think the only option is the court route I'm afraid and a very good solicitor. You can't carry on like this your mental health will destroy you.

thirstyformore · 02/01/2022 23:32

Give it a rest @13yearslater

ShinyGreenElephant · 02/01/2022 23:34

@13yearslater I know I should never have given him a second chance but he was going through a really good patch then and had been sober for a while. So he moved back in, but all the AA etc stopped and bit by bit he slipped and it all went wrong. He hasn't always been like this, well maybe he has but I've never seen it. He was so so lovely to me for the whole time I knew him up until the last few years. I thought he was back to himself, and we were happy again for a while. But it doesn't last and it never will. I've been given up on him since well before the baby was born

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13yearslater · 02/01/2022 23:35

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JustCleaningtheBBQ · 02/01/2022 23:35

@13yearslater the OP has come on here for support and you just sound like you're bullying her. If you can't be helpful then leave the thread.

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