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Is this abuse.

34 replies

Cheekychops77 · 24/12/2021 00:55

Hi ladies. I have been out of work for a matter of weeks and had no income and I start a new job in the next week or so but my partner took it upon himself to humiliate me tonight and then told me to stop being upset after we were all having fun in front of his parents saying that I am disgusting living off him as he earns 6x more a month than me and even though I pay half the mortgage apart from this month and shopping bills, cook, clean, do all his errands amd make his lunch for work everyday he said I do nothing! To humiliate me even more he said out loud I haven't bought my mum, dad or daughter presents and im blaming him when I've said nothing of the sort yet taken days of abuse and I get money tomorrow from universal credit after 4 weeks wait so I can finally get them something and he keeps saying its his money im going to be spending because he paid the mortgage and had to buy the food for his 7 family members and my parents and daughter for Xmas day dinner this year yet hes spent over £1200 on his 3 kids who don't live with us and £1000 and his mum for xmas and said he can spend what he wants yet shouts at me because he's spending money on getting my tampons this month! I feel totally drained and sick knowing he will say nasty stuff when I buy something for them. Is he abusing me or is he right my head is a total mess x

OP posts:
Shoxfordian · 24/12/2021 00:57

He’s abusive
Can you stay with friends or family? Leave him as soon as you’re able to do so because he’s not on your side

WorraLiberty · 24/12/2021 00:59

You know the answer already.

The problem is, what are you going to do about it?

TheHatOfSusieMeyerson · 24/12/2021 01:00

Just dropping by to lend my support. Not a nice man.

Anordinarymum · 24/12/2021 01:02

You know what he is. He will never change. You have to do something

UserError012345 · 24/12/2021 01:02

You are financially (and otherwise) incompatible, it's time to move on.

He's a dick.

Cheekychops77 · 24/12/2021 01:04

I also have no one i can talk to either im a bit scared too openly chat on the phone as he's always around

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Cheekychops77 · 24/12/2021 01:10

I feel so scared because everything seemed fine and ive been with him 4 years then he just turned on me and made me feel utterly crap and losing my job wasn't a choice my boss closed his business and buggered off abroad leaving us all in the crap

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Pinkbonbon · 24/12/2021 01:14

Run for the hills. He is toxic and if his family were OK with you being treated that way then they are just as bad.

All else asside, he is fucking horrible right? And you're literally scared of him. So wtf is the point in being anywhere near such a person?

Get out as soon as you can.
Make sure your earnings go straight to your own bank (not a joint account).

Life is too short to waste with a nasty bully.

Smoothsoul · 24/12/2021 01:40

Wow can you imagine what he would be like if you were ever on maternity leave and depending on him then. Leave, he’s not a good man.

Loveisthere · 24/12/2021 01:45

Fhs ltb now and be happy xx

Holothane · 24/12/2021 01:49

Dreadful just dreadful get ready to leave I think there’s a few of us this year who’ve thought sod it I’ve had enough.

Winniemarysarah · 24/12/2021 01:54

You already know the answer. What are you doing for the solution?

TheFoundation · 24/12/2021 06:04

Is he abusing me or is he right my head is a total mess

There's a big lesson here for you, which will stand you in good stead in this situation and others in the future: whether he (or anybody else) is abusing you, if your head feels like a total mess in the relationship, YOU LEAVE. You don't analyse their behaviour, you don't spend your time working out who is right or wrong. You remove yourself from any person or situation who you feel is messing your head up.

There are lists of behaviours that constitute 'abuse' online, you can find them if you google, but the problem is that everybody is different. So, one thing may be abusive to you, but not abusive for most other people. I had a friend who couldn't bear to be stroked gently on the arm (because she was sexually abused as a child by someone who used to do this as a precursor to abusing her), so when she met a man who did this, affectionately, she had to ask him not to do it. He told her not to be silly, and that he wasn't doing anything wrong, and he carried on. So she left him, because in that instance, stroking her gently on the arm was abusive. The only way to judge it was that she told him it made her feel bad, and he carried on doing it. There are no external rules or guidelines to say that that behaviour is abusive, and most people would say it wasn't, but it made her feel bad, and he knew that, and continued to do it.

Don't look externally to find out if somebody's behaviour is acceptable to you. Nobody can tell you. There's no set of rules. Your feelings are your rules. If you say to somebody 'I feel bad when you do x/y/z', and they keep doing it, then they are prioritising that behaviour over your wellbeing, and anybody who makes that choice doesn't respect you, or deserve your company.

There are many people who will overstep your boundaries, but most, if you tell them they're doing it, will apologise, and stop doing whatever it was that upset you, because their priority will be 'not upsetting people around me'. Remove anybody from your life who prioritises something else.

It was useful to me to separate fault from responsibility. If somebody makes you feel crap/abuses you, the fault is theirs. But the responsibility to fix how you feel is yours, and it's not by changing that person, it's simply by creating distance between you and them. It's a much less confrontational approach than 'Maybe I'm wrong to feel this way, I'll try to get my feelings in check/not be so sensitive, maybe this would be ok for other people and I'm just being silly etc' It involves a lot less 'hard relationship discussions'. All you have to do is tell the person, calmly and seriously, that you feel bad when they do x/y/z behaviour. From that point on, they get one chance, and if they repeat the behaviour, you leave, with no need for explanation.

Get away from this man, and start doing things for you. You are responsible for your own wellbeing, so if you're choosing to stay around people who make your wellbeing feel shot to pieces, how do you expect to ever feel ok? Take responsibility for yourself; start taking actions that make you feel better, rather than questioning why you feel the way you feel.

There's a very big, life changing lesson you can give yourself for Christmas here: trust in your feelings. Let them guide you. They are your heart. Respect them, and you respect yourself.

Dillydollydingdong · 24/12/2021 06:12

He's selfish, unappreciative and obsessed with money. You really don't need someone like that in your life! Do you?

moremoony · 24/12/2021 06:18

It’s abusive. He is not a good partner. You’ve only been out of work for a few weeks! You’re supposed to be a team. Also, why are you paying half the mortgage if he earns 6 times what you do? That’s financial abuse! You can’t be with a guy like this. It’s no life. Go stay with family. Get away and get your head straight away from his abuse. Do you have somewhere you can stay?

moremoony · 24/12/2021 06:18

and putting you down at a time when you need support is a huge red flag

rainbowstardrops · 24/12/2021 06:57

Yes this is abusive. Financially and emotionally.
How did his parents react?

Whydidimarryhim · 24/12/2021 07:39

Cheekychop - yes he’s abusive - he’s a bastard -= now your even more vulnerable if you have lost your job - have you any family or friends you can turn too - great post from Thefoundation - it’s not you - it’s him.
You won’t fix someone like this and I’d be surprised if this is just recent behaviour or if there have been other red flags.
Is it his house? Is there anywhere you can go?

Stellaaaaaaaah · 24/12/2021 08:04

He was angry about buying you tampons?Noooo. Run, run as fast as you can, away from this abusive man.

Freddy12 · 24/12/2021 08:16

Wow nasty man
Not any sort of partner you definitely need to move on
Clearly selfish and nasty

rocky1914 · 24/12/2021 08:36

Without a shadow of a doubt, he is definitely abusive. I'd strongly advise that you start making moves to leave this relationship as this will only get worse. 4 weeks out of work and he's acting like you've been out of work for 4 years. Disgusting. LTB

OhCobblers · 24/12/2021 08:52

He's an abusive piece of shit.
Absolutely leave him and lawyer up.
Do you have friends/family you can confide in?

OhCobblers · 24/12/2021 08:55

You mention daughter - is he her father?
I bet when you paid 50% of mortgage and bills your earnings weren't the same? So he's got a lot more £££ left over?
stop errands and making lunch for him - he can bloody well do that himself - he is awful

Caramellatteplease · 24/12/2021 09:00

Echoing the above yes he is abusive.

But I'm also confused if he was/is earning 6× your salary but you are jointly responsible for rent how you are claiming universal credit?

Jux · 24/12/2021 09:23

No, this is a big big big no.

Do you live together?
How old are your children?

He's seriously nasty. A true partnership would pool resources, pay mortgage and bills out of the pool, use the pool for savings and for equal spending. You'd have an agreement about large purchases blah blah blah. You certainly wouldn't have one person earning 6x the other and complaining about paying for the tampons.

Get rid once you've got your ducks in a row.

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