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Husband wants me to friends with his ex ??

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Tigersparklespink · 23/12/2021 15:03

My husband has 2 wonderful children who we see half of the week . My husband and I now have a baby.

My husband wanted me and his ex to be friends. We met once and it went really well. The second time I felt she was really inappropriate- she asked me if I was on birth control ! She went on in great detail about how even though ‘they ‘ were never married - my now husband had proposed to her at a fancy restaurant. I felt it was abit agreesive . I told my husband and this led to him
Confronting her and then it all got awkward . So from then on I was very wary .

After that , we all tried to be civil and over the last few years me and ex have had a polite and friendly relationship . I send cards and chocolates for her birthday. We spend time together for the children’s birthdays. We have taken the baby over to meet his ex .

The ex is heavily involved with my husbands family due to the kids -
So she is at a lot of family functions I go to and we chat and are friendly . I will see her at least once a month .

The issue is my husband wants
us to be friends . He always suggests we go in when we drop the kids off. He has suggested she and I go out .

Today he said - let’s take the baby in when I drop the kids off . I just don’t want too. I feel it is fake and I don’t want to be fake .

I’m Happy to be polite and friendly when I have to see her but I don’t want to just drop in . surely she doesn’t want me going around her house either ? I don’t want to go there and feel so so awkward . I’m sure she must feel awkward.

I don’t understand why my husband can’t get this is just so awkward???? He says- she really likes you and wants to get to know you. She isn’t really my type of person and I find her quite manipulative and am vary of her . But then I get paranoid and think should I be making More of an effort to go in and see her ? Do the children think I’m rude ?

Please help ?

OP posts:
Ohpinkpants · 23/12/2021 20:03

Well once I went over after having the baby and she had given me a really strong alcoholic drink when I clearly said I was breastfeeding. I didn’t say anything as not to cause a scene . I just left the drink. My FIL picked up the drink thinking it was just juice and spat it out and said ‘ this is like rocket fuel - why has someone given you this when your breastfeeding !’ It was put down to a mistake . I don’t think it was at all .

Other times she has made digs - I’d never dress my child in clothes from that shop . ( well we don’t have much money for fancy clothes as we spend all our spare on money on the children - 2 of which are yours !!!!)

I would never have picked a wedding dress like you did but if you liked it that’s all that matters !

She has made these off
Comments . My Husband always says -
Oh she is just like that and means nothing by it !!!

I find it all abit spiteful but I never ever say a comment back . I just swallow it !

Ohpinkpants · 23/12/2021 20:04

I named changed - so that was
me who just made the last post.

Ohpinkpants · 23/12/2021 20:06

Anyway ! I find her abit spiteful/ manipulative. The truth is I am
Polite and friendly with her when I need to be but I don’t want anything more that what we have .
So I will tell Husband that I feel I’m friendly enough and not to push anymore .

Luckyducky75 · 23/12/2021 20:10

Oh God no no no, just no, stop buying her things for her birthday it's just unhealthy there's no reason to be anything other than polite at family events. Tbh it's really wierd she still goes do often, regardless of the fact they have kids, I wouldn't put myself in this wierd position x

ChargingBuck · 23/12/2021 20:13

He says- she really likes you and wants to get to know you. She isn’t really my type of person and I find her quite manipulative and am vary of her
It's your DH who's being manipulative here.
YOU get to decide who gets to know you & who you want to be friends with.

Today he said - let’s take the baby in when I drop the kids off . I just don’t want too. I feel it is fake and I don’t want to be fake
I don't understand why you need to accompany DH to the kid drop-off.
Just leave him to it. Stop pandering. Just tell him to stop being weird.

My ex doesn’t dictate to me , just for some Reason he thinks it would be really great if we hung out occasionally.
Doesn't dictate to you ... but you are uncomfortable enough about his persistence that you needed to post a thread about it. How much pressure is he asserting, actually?

ChargingBuck · 23/12/2021 20:16

I send cards and chocolates for her birthday.
WHY?
Does she send you stuff on your birthday?
If not, you are still pandering to nonsense.

We spend time together for the children’s birthdays.
Again - why?
The kids birthdays should be about them & their parents, not an episode of The DH Wife Club.
Why are you allowing yourself to keep being sucked into a dynamic you don't want?

LethargicActress · 23/12/2021 20:20

You’re probably right to find her manipulative, it sounds like she’s manipulating your DH into thinking how lovely and sensible she wants to be by wanting to make the effort with you, and then when you understandably say don’t want to, you come across as being the difficult one to your DH.

I wouldn’t meet up with her, but I would continue to be nice by doing things like acknowledging her birthday so she can’t make it look like you’re being unfriendly.

Annike4 · 23/12/2021 20:24

Really grim of your husband. Awful.
No-one gets to choose your friends except YOU.

Lovemusic33 · 23/12/2021 20:30

I was friends with my (now ex) dh’s ex wife, we didn’t go out together though, that’s just weird. I would often have to pick the step children up and would go in for a cup of tea when they were getting ready, it took a while to get to this point though, when I first had Dd1 she was very jealous and tried to turn the step kids against me but then things settled down. She’s always been around my dc and still is even though I’m no longer with dh (they still see her occasionally when they visit one of their siblings), one year I spent Christmas at her house.

For me I think it’s important that everyone get along, makes it easier with the dc. My ex husband now has a new partner and I am friends with her because she’s in contact with my dc.

MsDogLady · 24/12/2021 06:56

OP, you have a huge H problem. He will not set appropriate boundaries with his Ex or younger DD, and he expects you to suck it up. He gains validation in ways that are highly disrespectful to you.

H is pushing you to develop a friendship with this horrible woman who:
*Spikes your drink with alcohol which could harm your baby
*Intrudes in your personal business re contraception
*Goads you with a description of H’s proposal to her
*Negs your wedding dress and baby’s clothing
*Is needy and demanding, always pursuing both H’s attention and more money (per previous thread)
*Won’t stick to the contact schedule and expects accommodation, but wouldn’t dream of ever reciprocating

You’ve said that after years of frustration, you trained yourself to think of Ex as an insignificant background noise, but compartmentalizing her toxic behavior can take a serious emotional toll on you.

And that’s not your only H problem.

He allows his 12 year old DD to be an imperious diva in your home and in public, and expects you to shut up and take it. You understandably dread her coming. She is consistently rude and demanding, and you resent H’s refusal to acknowledge and address her behavior. She won’t say please or thank you, criticizes everything, and demands/gets whatever she wants. Whatever time and expense are spent on activities for her each Disney weekend, she is contemptuous. When money went missing and was found in her bag, H wouldn’t hear that she took it. When she didn’t want to return to her mum’s and the £300 car key went missing, he wouldn’t even consider that she hid it. You go out of your way for her (even letting her pick the baby’s middle name), yet are not allowed to set boundaries or even call her out her rudeness, and she knows that. When you attempt to address her behavior with H, he shuts you down. Thankfully, his older DD is a kind, lovely girl with whom you get on well.

You have the right to be treated with respect. I wouldn’t subject myself to this maladaptive enmeshment that tramples on your boundaries, nor would I raise my child in this environment. Think carefully about the relationship blueprint that is being modeled for your son, and about your and H’s differ parenting styles.

As for H’s agenda for you to befriend his Ex, she is a nasty piece of work who tried to hurt your baby, and she gets a buzz from putting you down and trying to throw you off-balance. It is troubling that H is seeking gratification by your weakening your boundaries to bond with this viper. If this new thing is being driven by her, you can bet she has intentions to diminish you and escalate their codependency.

You recently wrote that you always felt you were behind your peers, and were glad to settle down at 30. Lately, though, you’ve been feeling trapped, lonely and unhappy (though you adore your baby). You are now in a different life in a small town after living in a city. You were recently upset and envious when your younger, single, free brother left after a visit. Perhaps this restricted feeling is due in part to your feeling powerless, disrespected and unheard in your current life.

You need to make some major changes.

Thisisworsethananticpated · 24/12/2021 08:09

Hard no
And why ? Why the fuck does he think this needs to happen
Weird

Suzi888 · 24/12/2021 08:13

You shouldn’t have to be friends with anyone you don’t want to.

MyOtherProfile · 24/12/2021 08:18

Why did they split up?

And why are his family so close to her?

They can have the kids at family events without her. I find it odd that they are still so friendly with her.

Justcannotbearsed · 24/12/2021 08:57

Dh’s ex is at all family events. She’s their grand kids mum. She’s known them 30 years, I’ve known them 20….

Justcallmesarah · 03/01/2022 11:48

I'm in a similar position. I've not been asked to be friends with my partners ex but I'm uncomfortable with the closeness, they do have a daughter so I appreciate there needs to be some involvement. He has given her a key to his house while we are away and asked her to pop in and feed the fish. I asked him not to, to ask a neighbour or friend as I was uncomfortable with it. He just ignored that part. He doesn't get what the issue is🤦‍♀️
Any advice welcome

Santaisstilleatingmincepies · 03/01/2022 11:51

As a teen my dm and sm were friends. Fakeness at it's best and bloody cringey.. Tell dh you are capable of choosing your own friends.

IamGusFring · 03/01/2022 11:56

The issue is my husband wants
us to be friends . He always suggests we go in when we drop the kids off. He has suggested she and I go out

OMG no . He needs to back off. Stop buying presents too !

billy1966 · 03/01/2022 14:03

OP

You sound both harassed and bullied by a man who has zero interest in what YOU want or say.

He is consumed by what he wants.

He has ZERO interest in your feelings and thoughts.

I think you should tell him his bullying is really creepy and is making you VERY uncomfortable.

Read @ChargingBuck's posts and back off from being so involved.

If he asks why, tell him because his BULLYING of you has made you want to step back.

Stop with the gifts too.

He sounds like a loser.
Sort out your contraception.
I think you may well rethink this marriage.

YANBU Flowers

IsMaeOnTheAsmae · 03/01/2022 14:44

I think your husband is being unreasonable. You don't have to be friends or spend time outside if family events with her. I'd get pissed off with him keep going on about it tbh!
If I was his ex I’d feel embarrassed to keep clinging on to my ex partners family but she feels she has known these people for 20 years so why would She give them up

Shes not clinging onto his family? Their also her family and her childrens family. If she's known them 20 years, their as much a part of her lives as she is theres. I think it's nice shes still welcome and everyones nice with her and it says a lot about his family that they didn't shun her when they split ( which happens a lot ) is take it as a positive that shes still part of the family, because she is family

Brigante9 · 03/01/2022 15:21

@MsDogLady

OP, you have a huge H problem. He will not set appropriate boundaries with his Ex or younger DD, and he expects you to suck it up. He gains validation in ways that are highly disrespectful to you.

H is pushing you to develop a friendship with this horrible woman who:
*Spikes your drink with alcohol which could harm your baby
*Intrudes in your personal business re contraception
*Goads you with a description of H’s proposal to her
*Negs your wedding dress and baby’s clothing
*Is needy and demanding, always pursuing both H’s attention and more money (per previous thread)
*Won’t stick to the contact schedule and expects accommodation, but wouldn’t dream of ever reciprocating

You’ve said that after years of frustration, you trained yourself to think of Ex as an insignificant background noise, but compartmentalizing her toxic behavior can take a serious emotional toll on you.

And that’s not your only H problem.

He allows his 12 year old DD to be an imperious diva in your home and in public, and expects you to shut up and take it. You understandably dread her coming. She is consistently rude and demanding, and you resent H’s refusal to acknowledge and address her behavior. She won’t say please or thank you, criticizes everything, and demands/gets whatever she wants. Whatever time and expense are spent on activities for her each Disney weekend, she is contemptuous. When money went missing and was found in her bag, H wouldn’t hear that she took it. When she didn’t want to return to her mum’s and the £300 car key went missing, he wouldn’t even consider that she hid it. You go out of your way for her (even letting her pick the baby’s middle name), yet are not allowed to set boundaries or even call her out her rudeness, and she knows that. When you attempt to address her behavior with H, he shuts you down. Thankfully, his older DD is a kind, lovely girl with whom you get on well.

You have the right to be treated with respect. I wouldn’t subject myself to this maladaptive enmeshment that tramples on your boundaries, nor would I raise my child in this environment. Think carefully about the relationship blueprint that is being modeled for your son, and about your and H’s differ parenting styles.

As for H’s agenda for you to befriend his Ex, she is a nasty piece of work who tried to hurt your baby, and she gets a buzz from putting you down and trying to throw you off-balance. It is troubling that H is seeking gratification by your weakening your boundaries to bond with this viper. If this new thing is being driven by her, you can bet she has intentions to diminish you and escalate their codependency.

You recently wrote that you always felt you were behind your peers, and were glad to settle down at 30. Lately, though, you’ve been feeling trapped, lonely and unhappy (though you adore your baby). You are now in a different life in a small town after living in a city. You were recently upset and envious when your younger, single, free brother left after a visit. Perhaps this restricted feeling is due in part to your feeling powerless, disrespected and unheard in your current life.

You need to make some major changes.

Bloody hell, OP, your husband is a horrible bully and his Dd sounds the same. Why are you allowing this?
Brigante9 · 03/01/2022 15:21

Sorry, posted too soon! Don’t allow him to treat you like this, you are not a doormat, your feelings are valid. Please stand up for yourself.

gogohm · 03/01/2022 16:18

Fine to be friendly, but that's not the same as being friends. I'm friendly with dp's ex when we meet at occasions like birthdays, would be fine having a drink or a meal, even sent a Christmas card to her and her dp but she's an acquaintance through circumstances not a friend

Momijin · 03/01/2022 16:23

You can only be friends with people you want ti be friends with. Sounds like you have a completely nice and appropriate relationship with her.

I actually really like my ex's girlfriend and would definitely want to be friends with her but I don't want to hang around my ex and it is also a bit weird. So we have a little chat when we see each other and that's that.

OnaBegonia · 03/01/2022 16:48

MN is the only place I've come across long time ex's still attending family functions, usually the DC attend with the parent of that family.
Be civil, anything else isn't needed.

StellaQ · 31/05/2023 13:25

Justcallmesarah · 03/01/2022 11:48

I'm in a similar position. I've not been asked to be friends with my partners ex but I'm uncomfortable with the closeness, they do have a daughter so I appreciate there needs to be some involvement. He has given her a key to his house while we are away and asked her to pop in and feed the fish. I asked him not to, to ask a neighbour or friend as I was uncomfortable with it. He just ignored that part. He doesn't get what the issue is🤦‍♀️
Any advice welcome

I’m in the same position and having big arguments with my partner, I’m already thinking I’m the problem? Because she s a nice woman and doesn’t interfere in our life but they are very close and he’s constantly stopping by to drop off food for the kids every time he goes to the shops, he has also suggested to be friends with her

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