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Is it gaslighting if it's not on purpose?

56 replies

MerryMarigold · 13/12/2021 19:16

For years 'D'h has made me feel like I'm going mad as he'll deny he's said certain things, usually in the heat of a row, or accused me of things such as losing a key when later he'll find it somewhere he put it (this type of thing happens quite a lot). It does make me feel like I'm going mad, and at times I wonder if he's emotionally abusive, but I think he just
does it because he's too insecure to admit he's done or said certain things (or forgotten, as in the case of the key), or because he genuinely believes in that moment in time that he didn't say something or mean something which I believe he did say or mean. I mean it's not intentionally to manipulate me, but it does really get to me to the point I often feel like I wish we could record conversations because what I remember and what he remembers can be so different. We've been married for 18 years and it's really got to me over the years, increasingly so I think. I don't think he does it on purpose but is it still abuse or just really bad communication?

OP posts:
FrancescaContini · 14/12/2021 22:06

@humbugaboo

This is my husband and I absolutely detest living with him. He constantly lies about things and denies things and it’s due to being raised very very very poorly. And as sad as that is, it’s not my problem. I now no longer believe a single word that comes out of his mouth about anything, and I don’t even bother asking him questions because I can’t believe what he says e.g I can ask him to get me a specific cough medicine, he can bring home a different one and when I ask why he didn’t get the one I asked for, he will say I never said a specific one. This initially used to have me thinking I was crazy, then I started texting him everything so I had evidence and he would still lie, so then I knew it was him. You do not want to live with someone like this. Don’t trust a single word he says and have confidence in yourself!
How do you live like this? It’s really sad to read. You’re so matter of the fact about how horrible and abusive he is towards you.
sassbott · 14/12/2021 22:09

This thread is so sad.

Some posters on here should really read The verbally abusive relationship by Patricia Evans.

It’s a sensible no nonsense book that is not filled with LTB. If some of you are considering staying, it is full of advice on how to best manage being on the receiving end of this behaviour.

It may also be a bit of an eye opener as to what is going on in some of your relationships.

billy1966 · 14/12/2021 22:11

OP,

This is not good for your MH.

He sounds awful.

You are his emotional punching bag for any and all upsets and annoyances that he has.

You constantly have to defend yourself against anything and everything.

Completely abusive IMO.

It sounds like hell to live like that.
Flowers

3luckystars · 14/12/2021 22:14

I couldn’t live like that. You just need to record everything and build up some data for yourself.

Anordinarymum · 15/12/2021 00:32

Gaslighting is always done on purpose.

lottiegarbanzo · 15/12/2021 07:49

The other thing about not arguing, is that it should work better for him. Less heat means he needn't feel backed into a corner, which is where I suspect a lot of this perceived 'need to defend himself / his pride / avoid shame' comes from.

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