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Pregnant and thinking of leaving DH.

105 replies

CantSleep88 · 13/12/2021 05:16

I'm so sorry I fear this is going to be long. Will try and be as concise as possible.

Background: I am 13 weeks pregnant, been with DH for 16 years. DS almost 2. Have had doubts about his behaviour in past and even spoke with Women's Aid back in the summer, but then reverted back to burying my head in the sand, I guess.

Waking up to the fact DH is selfish and a bit of a narcissist, maybe, and interested to know what people think or if it's just pregnancy hormones skewing my perspective before I throw away a long marriage.

DH doesn't like if I stick up for myself, always says "don't argue with me", says I use the wrong tone of voice or facial expression. I have taken to putting on a fake cheery voice to try and avoid upsetting him but even that doesn't work sometimes. I feel like I am treading on eggshells a lot. Things I do around house are wrong, such as where I put things, the attachment I use for the hoover. He snaps and raises voice and then says it's offensive and rude that I cower because it implies he shouts at me. Very sarcastic and if I don't hear him or answer straight away he snaps "hello?" at me. Never apologises, except sarcastically such as yesterday he said an Amazon order with some face masks wasn't coming till next week so I said no problem, I had better grab some from shop for now. He says "well sorry! It's not my fault!" even though I was being perfectly friendly. Makes me feel rushed all the time, I end up getting so nervous and flustered I drop things and my heart races. Is very patronising and if he wants things done a certain way will sigh and say "we need to do this this way" even though it's something only I do around the house.

Trying to think of some recent examples. He didn't speak to me for a day and a half because he said I slammed car door. I didn't, I was carrying a rucksack and another bag and had got DS out of car and used foot to close door but he got very angry saying I slammed the door and I know I did and stormed off. He snaps at me for things I do with DS - DS got hold of one of my old mascaras and started painting a mirror with it. I started cleaning it up and his hands but DH came along and said what on earth was I doing letting him do that, did I think that was wise, he did not want "his" son having mascara on their face (he didn't but DH seems very concerned about DS appearance, has said before he is to wear brand names and play football at school, doesn't want him growing up to be a snowflake). When out for a walk there was a cat being sick which DS thought was funny, DH snapped at me why was I letting "his" son see that, shaking his head at me. He will speak to DS but be making a dig at me such as yesterday saying "that box shouldn't have been left there for you to trip over, should it" even though it wasn't in way at all. Last Christmas he said we spent too long at my mum's although were there less than an hour, and said this year we are only to spend 20 minutes there. He has since retracted this but I am dreading the aftermath already, knowing he is going to moan about how long we take opening presents. When I found out I was pregnant this time round I really struggled initially to get my head around it and how I would cope. I went downstairs after DS asleep and burst into tears, was hyperventilating saying to DH I don't think I could cope with the pregnancy (at time was being sick multiple times a day and DS not sleeping at all) and he didn't even hug me, just said "for gods sake I was hungry and wanted to have my dinner, couldn't this have waited" before unplugging chip fryer so hard it moved down the worktop. He is not physically abusive but does slam things around now and again. Lots more examples but just a few off top of my head.

I have not had a lie in since before DS was born. DH wakes when he wants. He is and always has been a terrible sleeper, still waking multiple times a night. I am suffering with sickness and PGP this pregnancy and do not get any respite, I cosleep with DS to try and get a break and am up every couple of hours while DH is in bed from 10pm-7am. On his days off when he gets up he will say I should have woke him. If he ever does take DS to park etc he is back home within 20 minutes. However I am a SAHM (gave up work after DS born when no childcare due to covid) so do expect to do lion's share. Equally housework I do most of, he does wash up (badly) some nights but that is it, for example last night went up to bed leaving bins overflowing and dirty worktops etc for me to sort although has two days off. Lots to be done around house including putting a side gate back up, hedge cutting, tip runs etc but he will moan about state of house / gardens but not do anything to rectify. He never ever cooks. Last time he did was when DS was two days old and he made such a big song and dance about it. Has a takeaway addiction and moans about having no money. Last week spent £90 on new earphones while I was struggling to pay for food shopping and nappies. He finishes work at 4 most days and will come home, sit down and play on phone and make himself a coffee which he gets to drink hot, rarely offers me a drink. If I try and bring anything up he gets very offended and storms off even if I try and mention something in a joking way, so I just don't bother anymore.

He is permanently glued to phone. I mean he never puts it down, when interacting with DS, meal times, day trips etc. When I get up throughout night I can see the glow from his mobile phone as he sits up all night playing on it. He is obsessed with crypto / bitcoin so spends all his time on phone doing things relating to that. I do sometimes wonder if he's talking to other women but no way to prove or disprove. I feel like he is a teenager, his room has clothes all over floor, empty alcohol bottles, vaping stuff. He only eats beige food (yesterday said he is going to start eating better before having biscuits and crisps for dinner). He also vapes in bedroom and in pantry where food is kept but I've asked him not to, or to at least open door/window, as smell makes me feel sick and gets on everything, but he doesn't.

I wouldn't say he's a terrible dad but he is quite impatient, sighs a lot and gets moody and snappy. Recently I had a driving lesson in middle of day and when I came back I asked DH what DS had had for lunch and he said he hadn't given him anything as he didn't know what he eats, but had made himself something. Equally if I ask if he's had a snack or a drink he will say he forgot. Will take him out without a coat or change bag etc. Plonks DS in front of TV all the time (I am not anti-TV by any means and rely on it to get cooking done etc, but it irks me when he just puts it on so he can sit on sofa playing on phone).

I feel like I may be crucified for having children with this man, but I feel like I've just been so blinded to it and after growing up with an abusive father I think I just sought refuge with him and stayed there and unfortunately I'm only now waking up to it. I have always had anxiety and been a people pleaser so think I have just put up with things, but want my child(ren) to be happy and safe. I feel very vulnerable as I'm pregnant, not well and not working so financially vulnerable also. I don't have many friends at all. He has said before that I would not cope without him, and now I'm struggling with pregnancy I worry he will use it against me. Everyone thinks he's wonderful, his family and friends think he's a brilliant hands on dad and I guess that puts me off leaving even more. For some reason I go blank if I try and think of examples etc, so if someone were to ask what he does wrong I would struggle. I am just finding this existence treading on eggshells and wondering what I'll have said or done wrong really exhausting. I'm not sure what I want from this post really, just wondering if anyone has been in a similar situation and can offer any advice. Thank you.

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CantSleep88 · 13/12/2021 05:23

Something else really minor but that sets me on edge. If I have already eaten, and say in an hour or so mention that I'm hungry again, DH will say "yes well I haven't eaten yet so I need to eat". I find I try and snack without him noticing so he won't comment (have huge pregnancy appetite and still breastfeeding son and am underweight). Equally if I say is it okay to have a shower while he watches DS on his days off he will sigh and say" well I haven't had one for insert number of days.

Also midwife did ask if I was well supported at my booking in appointment. I think she knew something was up and said I paused too long before answering, but I wasn't sure whether to mention anything.

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MissCrowley · 13/12/2021 05:40

I didn't want to read and run. You should absolutely LTB, is he bringing you any joy whatsoever? No? Then throw the whole man out.

Is the house in yours or his name? Are you able to collect things up together without him noticing, such as ID and bank statements?

I'm sorry you're going through this. A pregnancy should be a happy and exciting time. Plus your DS does not need to be around such toxic masculinity.

Cloudyzebra · 13/12/2021 05:50

Have you read your OP back? It's not a pleasant read. I'd say get out as soon as you can before your DS starts speaking to you like his Dad does.

FallonCarringtonWannabe · 13/12/2021 05:56

First of all, he is a terrible father. i mean the absolute basics are feeding your child. He doesn't. He is awful. Absolutely awful.

And he is abusive. So you need to end the relationship as soon as possible.

Hoe far along in the pregnancy are you? Do you still have a choice whether to continue?

He will never be a good partner. This is who he is. And he is shit.

Phone women’s Aid again and your mw.

FallonCarringtonWannabe · 13/12/2021 05:58

Something else really minor but that sets me on edge. If I have already eaten, and say in an hour or so mention that I'm hungry again, DH will say "yes well I haven't eaten yet so I need to eat"
That’s not minor. He is saying his feelings always take priority. Above his pregnant wife. Even above his child who he didnt feed when he ate himself. He must
Always come first.

Charley50 · 13/12/2021 05:58

He is awful. I think you should split from him, yes, for you and the DC sake. Could you stay with your family for a while? I think you will need support to leave him.

Charley50 · 13/12/2021 06:03

Btw you are very articulate and have loads of examples. I couldn't read it all first time as he's so awful and it reminded me of my own childhood. My dad was abusive and my mum was permanently on eggshells and a shadow of her former self until she eventually left him after 18 years.

EnrouteNOTonroute · 13/12/2021 06:05

It’s difficult to know what to say to this, but one thing is clear…do not spend the rest of your life with this man. He is awful.

DropYourSword · 13/12/2021 06:06

I wouldn't say he's a terrible dad

I would. From the examples you’ve given on here alone he is a TERRIBLE husband and a terrible father.
You don’t deserve to live like this. Mumsnet is often very quick to declare LTB but honestly in this case you should leave and never look back. He is awful. You deserve so much better than this. And your children do too. Please don’t let them live like this either. Seek real life help and get out. I promise you you’ll be better off without him.

CantSleep88 · 13/12/2021 06:09

@MissCrowley

I didn't want to read and run. You should absolutely LTB, is he bringing you any joy whatsoever? No? Then throw the whole man out.

Is the house in yours or his name? Are you able to collect things up together without him noticing, such as ID and bank statements?

I'm sorry you're going through this. A pregnancy should be a happy and exciting time. Plus your DS does not need to be around such toxic masculinity.

Thank you. The house is rented privately in joint names and our tenancy is not due for renewal until August. I am able to collect paperwork together if needs be.
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CantSleep88 · 13/12/2021 06:12

@FallonCarringtonWannabe

First of all, he is a terrible father. i mean the absolute basics are feeding your child. He doesn't. He is awful. Absolutely awful.

And he is abusive. So you need to end the relationship as soon as possible.

Hoe far along in the pregnancy are you? Do you still have a choice whether to continue?

He will never be a good partner. This is who he is. And he is shit.

Phone women’s Aid again and your mw.

I'm 13 weeks along and do wish to continue with the pregnancy - I have already had a few scans due to bleeding and have seen little one moving arms and legs and feel very attached, despite the circumstances.

I will try Women's Aid again when I am able to, but wasn't sure how much midwife would be able to do really.

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IknowwhatIneed · 13/12/2021 06:13

Also midwife did ask if I was well supported at my booking in appointment. I think she knew something was up and said I paused too long before answering, but I wasn't sure whether to mention anything.

Midwives have a process of routine enquiry in relation to domestic abuse, which means they should ask every pregnant woman about abuse. The good thing about that is you can tell her and she can find help for you.

CantSleep88 · 13/12/2021 06:14

@Charley50

He is awful. I think you should split from him, yes, for you and the DC sake. Could you stay with your family for a while? I think you will need support to leave him.
I don't have anywhere to stay really. My dad is an alcoholic and my mum lives in a tiny flat with my sister where they have no spare room at all. My mum is very supportive and I can talk to her about the situation though.
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coodawoodashooda · 13/12/2021 06:18

Read Pat Craven's living with the dominator and get that man out of your life. Speak to the police too.

GoodnightGrandma · 13/12/2021 06:19

I’ve only read a bit but yes, end it.
Perfect time to do it now before you get too big.
Do you know what you will do regarding housing, will he go or will it have to be you ?
No fault divorce is meant to be coming in April if you need it, but no need to stay together until then.

Charley50 · 13/12/2021 06:20

Please talk to your mum and start making plans to leave safely. It would be wonderful if you could ask him to leave, but I doubt he will go willingly.

GoodnightGrandma · 13/12/2021 06:21

Yes, mention it to the midwife.
And don’t be afraid to call the police if you’re frightened.

Shoxfordian · 13/12/2021 06:26

Speak to your Mum, your midwife, womens aid and get some support to leave him; you’re in an abusive relationship

NightfeedsandNetflix · 13/12/2021 06:39

I really feel for you, you seem very sad and must be living in a complete state of anxiety. That is no way to live whilst raising your child who will in time replicate his father (I use that word loosely), you come across as quite level headed and not dramatic, so no I don't think it is hormones. What are you actually getting out of this marriage? I understand some people stay as it's better the devil you know etc? But from what I'm reading there isn't a single incentive other then you thinking the number of years together means you are bound to him. I don't know how you have managed so long without setting him straight and flipping out? He is a selfish lazy bully and you deserve a partnership not a passive aggressive dictatorship you must be twisted with bottled up frustration. Do you really want two children in this household with him? I've walked away from marriage with debt and two son's (2nd unwanted and not planned ), as my sanity and mental freedom was worth every penny! It does sort itself out, get as much advice about financial help and assistance. I would rather live in a refuge and start afresh then waste any more years with this slob. It is hard, it is scary but it is possible?! He clearly walks all over you thinking you won't go anywhere? It's not going to get better? Having a second child is a huge jump in responsibility especially with someone who isn't pulling their weight. Any man feeding himself over his kid is a Cxxt sorry for the extreme language but that's what he is. He is on his phone all the time but can't sent you a text to ask what his own eat's? Don't doubt yourself and be pressured to blame hormones! You have clear and concise examples of his behaviour. Just because he isn't walloping you, he could be worse?! You need to get out, the best gift you can give your children is a happy mum at peace. Life is precious and short. You owe him nothing.

reallyworriedjobhunter · 13/12/2021 06:47

Oh love, he sounds awful and yes you should leave asap. He is abusive and I would be making quiet plans to go asap. Can you tell your Mum what you have told us and go and stay there? Even if you are squashed in, you'll both be safe.

tortoiselover100 · 13/12/2021 07:26

Honestly op, he sounds vile. You need to get away pronto. Any life without him is better than one with him. You and your children deserve so much better xxx

coodawoodashooda · 13/12/2021 07:55

I was you op. I didn't even know it was happening. I thought he was stressed and there were loads of reasons why he would have been. Quietly make plans. Quietly.

Dontforgetyourbrolly · 13/12/2021 08:03

Sounds like my ex op
I handled it in a different way, fighting fire with fire, which was a whole new level of hell . Theres no way to handle these abusive people except cut them out of your life .
I got out when ds was 3 because I realised this is not the kind of behaviour he needs to witness.

It's hard but with the right support you can do it

Just be prepared for the about turn of tears , how sorry he is and broken , even talking about killing himself. Don't fall for it

Lazydaisydaydream · 13/12/2021 08:09

Wanting to leave is reason enough. You do not need to produce a list of reasons to family and friends to persuade them it was ok for you to leave.

Misty84 · 13/12/2021 08:18

Oh OP this is an incredibly sad post, my heart is breaking for you. This is absolutely NOT what a relationship should be like. If you have the strength and the means then please, please find a way out. You will be happier I promise you. Living on egg shells like this is horrendous xx