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Awful relationship and I can't seem to leave

41 replies

Loudbuzzing · 28/11/2021 20:07

I'm objectively in a terrible relationship that makes me completely miserable but I can't leave. I'd just like to hear from anyone who's left a relationship with someone they really loved/ found it almost impossible to do.

He has some great qualities, we are best friends, have fun together and loves me, but his version of love is crappy.

He's got long term emotional damage that constantly causes issues, he doesn't learn from mistakes, everything is his way or the highway, he is defensive, he's hypocrital, he's self-absorbed, he doesn't meet my needs.

We argue all the time now and get stuck in these loops where I feel like I'm actually going mad. I'm so depressed. I just feel trapped.

OP posts:
Tallisimo · 28/11/2021 20:14

Why do you say you can’t leave? What is it that you perceive is stopping you?

KUdos6 · 28/11/2021 20:44

He doesn’t sound very loveable to me. What is stopping you from ending it?

freeatlast2021 · 28/11/2021 21:19

Leave OP, just leave.

Loudbuzzing · 28/11/2021 21:40

I just leave and then I feel even more miserable and miss him, so i go back.

I've left people before, but can't seem to stick with it.

OP posts:
Tallisimo · 29/11/2021 02:33

Thing about leaving relationships is even when you know they are bad for you, they can hook you in with their familiarity. A bit like a drug. You want to leave? You have to go cold turkey. Cut off all contact. Delete phone numbers, social media links etc. Fill your focus with other things. Tell your friends what you are doing and ask them to help you stay strong. Write a long list 9f all the reasons why you have left him. Pin it where you can see it and read it if you feel yourself weakening.

You CAN do this!

Aquamarine1029 · 29/11/2021 02:35

Of course you can leave and of course you can stay away, you just choose not to. You are the maker of your own misery. Stop it already.

DeeCeeCherry · 29/11/2021 02:46

He's got long term emotional damage that constantly causes issues, he doesn't learn from mistakes, everything is his way or the highway, he is defensive, he's hypocrital, he's self-absorbed, he doesn't meet my needs

I was weary just reading that.

How you can even be bothered with all that messy drama in the one life you have to live, I dont know. All for the sake of a man?!

Youre miserable with him so may as well be miserable without him.

I know there are some good self-help books for women in your situation I can't recall the names of them now, but I'm sure someone will be along to let you know in a minute.

& you could do The Freedom Programme

CheekyHobson · 29/11/2021 02:50

Even though your message is quite short, there are masses of contradictions.

We are best friends / he doesn't meet my needs
We have fun together / we argue all the time
He loves me / everything is his way or the highway, he's self-absorbed

You do understand these things can't be true at the same time?

If he has long-term emotional damage and lots of issues and you are miserable but can't leave miserable relationships, both of you need therapy if you have any hope of things working. Not couples therapy, individual therapy. Take a 6-month break and commit to therapy alone during that time and reassess after that.

Loudbuzzing · 29/11/2021 08:30

I think the problem is that genuinely both sets of things are true.

We have so much fun and we are best friends.

But because he doesn't meet my fundamental needs, hopes and desires, we end up fighting all the time.

He's incapable of not being selfish.

He is always trying.

He just tries the wrong things.

He's got ASD which I think is a big part of it.

Right now I want to live together and he promised we would by Christmas but now he says he can't face the commute.

But it's been FOUR YEARS and living together is really important to me, but he won't compromise.

If i left, he'd say "omg okay i will live with you, I am sorry i was a dick" but then after living with me he'd be grumpy and resentful so what's the point?

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Theturnofthepoo · 29/11/2021 09:05

Ugh op I’m in the same situation. They won’t change. It’s hard but we have to think so we want this in 10 years? Because they won’t change.

FetchezLaVache · 29/11/2021 09:10

I think you should leave, then throw yourself into working on your expectations of relationships/partners. Why would you even want to live with someone who is as you describe? Why are you prepared to settle for an objectively terrible relationship? Is it just a better the devil you know situation?

Loudbuzzing · 29/11/2021 09:36

I think for the first few years we were just dating and i didn't know he was such hard work. Im very easygoing and he was besotted so treated me like gold. Then real life set in and I started to see how messed up he is.

Then it becomes confusing because if we're not fighting it can be wonderful and we are so attached to one another. But I know I'm really miserable because my needs aren't being met and I feel like I'm trapped between certain misery on all sides.

I know he's not going to change. I just don't know why I can't muster the strength to bear the seperation. It feels like cutting off an arm.

The arguments we have are honestly toxic. I'm not saying I'm an angel, I'm not, but I can observe when we're trying to resolve a situation that genuinely his feelings is all he cares about.

He's got the emotional quotient of a toddler. I think he fundamentally approaches life from a stance of getting his own needs met. He loves doing things for me but not things that involve any personal sacrifice

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litterbird · 29/11/2021 09:40

Firstly.......PLEASE DONT MOVE IN WITH HIM!!! Secondly, you have to go through cold turkey I am afraid and you have to face it to get out and stay out. Your life, if you move in and stay will be miserable for ever. If you leave, you will be miserable for a while. Then happy. Choice is yours.

Theturnofthepoo · 29/11/2021 09:40

Sounds possibly codependent

IncompleteSenten · 29/11/2021 09:45

Hang on. You don't live together. He makes you miserable. You want to end the relationship but you want to move in together which would make it even harder to end the relationship and would mean you had no escape from his behaviour because you couldn't even retreat to your own home?

You need to really work out why you appear to be actively chasing a life that will leave you feeling trapped and miserable

Ohpulltheotherone · 29/11/2021 09:52

I’d be looking into getting a therapist OP. You can get some support to end the relationship and move on. Cannot recommend this enough. I went through the break down of a relationship and was coincidentally having therapy at the time and it near on saved my sanity.

Look at it another way - he’s probably really unhappy too. Deep down. The same as you.

You’re codependent on each other but neither of you happy and fulfilled. You’d be doing him a favour by ending it.

If you can’t face doing it now my recommendation would be to slowly withdraw contact a tiny bit at a time and put more time for yourself into hobbies or friends and family. Try and find other things to fill the gap that he’s occupied for 4 years.

Perhaps even think about booking some time away for yourself - I know it’s awkward with Covid - but putting space between you and the situation could really help.

Perhaps you’re scared of what it means to leave - it means you have to actually start living a life. You will no longer be in this limbo space. Perhaps deep down you are staying because you don’t actually want the full time commitment of another person?….

Honestly, look for a therapist if you can afford it. Flowers

Anonnyno · 29/11/2021 10:00

OP, let’s look at this another way. If he’s as selfish as you say he is, always putting his needs first, it’s a given he’ll likely cheat when life together either hits a tough stage (e.g. kids, bereavement or health scare) or he simply gets “bored” after you’ve been together a decade or so. I’ve seen it happen with this type over and over again.

dabbydeedoo · 29/11/2021 15:36

I feel a bit like this at the moment. He's incredibly absorbed in work (he works on covid related stuff) and just isn't meeting my needs at all. He hasn't taken a single day off work in months, won't even consider a holiday, not even a weekend away. The thing is what do I do if we split up? We're in the middle of a pandemic and there's another sodding variant now, and probably more restrictions. It's the worst possible time to try to be out and about meeting new people. So frustrating.

How old are you, OP?

ftw163532 · 29/11/2021 15:43

Have you ever given yourself time to adjust when you leave? Or do you just go back to make your emotions go away before they have a chance to improve?

All emotions are temporary. If you avoid difficult emotions all you do is keep yourself stuck - if you wait and take care of yourself instead then you will see that they ease.

They are like waves, you ride out the waves, and then you feel something different.

But the decision to do that has to come from you. Nobody can do it for you or give magical words to speed up the process.

There is grieving and processing to do after leaving an abusive relationship. It is not instant butterflies and rainbows, but a period of coming to terms and healing. Then you can start to move forward. (Same way as if you broke your leg there would be a recovery and rehab process - you wouldn't expect to be feeling great and running a marathon the very next day).

You have to give yourself the chance to reach the other side of that by staying gone. That's the only way anything will ever change. The alternative is you stay with him and stay stuck in this cycle of feeling miserable.

Loudbuzzing · 29/11/2021 16:28

I am 44. No, the longest I have ever left for is a couple of days.

I think our relationship is hard to explain so I will try and maybe people can give me feedback.

He is a generally kind and good person. He always comes if I need him, even if he's sick or tired. He is reliable and always there for me. He compliments me constantly and makes me feel very desired and valuable. He is a big cheerleader for me in terms of my job, life and anything I try to do. He assists practically in everything for me - helping me be organised, making sure I eat if I am working late, helping financially if needed. He is good to my family and friends. He is dedicated to his job and a clever man. He is really funny, and we laugh all the time at just about anything. We like doing the same stuff and he always plans cool outings and nice things for us to do together. He's not very emotional, but if I fire emotions off at him or get upset he will sit with me for literally hours while I cry and do his best to comfort me. We share the same life goals and want the same thing. I've zero question he isn't in it for the long haul. I think he thinks I am the best person in the world, and that's a nice feeling.

In those ways it's the best relationship of my life, hence leaving feels like an almost insurmountable loss.

On the other hand...

He's phobic about commitment, and freaks out about living together and I want to live together for all sorts of reasons. When I have left in the past, he has cried and said "I don't know what's wrong with me, I have wasted all these years only spending 20% of my time with you when I should have always been there", but then he doesn't change it.

He's a naturally pessimistic and miserable person, who makes life decisions which perpetuate this. For example, he's currently about to rent a new place to live which is going to cost him 70% of his salary and he's done nothing but moan about the cost when it's obvious we should move in together, which he won't due due to a 40 minute commute he says he can't cope with.

He is deeply insecure, can't take criticism, is self-defensive and doesn't ultimately believe in people being safe or reliable (his damage I mentioned) so when we argue about anything, his wall of self-defence goes up and he can't focus on the thing we are arguing about (generally something shit he has done) and instead it ends up being reverted to how us arguing has made him feel bad and it's all my fault.

He doesn't have empathy and he's completely self-absorbed. He hates to see me cry or be angry, but he has no way of thinking "hmm, what might I change to make this better for her?" and if I tell him, it somehow doesn't go in. Like a kind of emotional blindness. So the same crap happens over and over.

We have battled the last few months over the moving in thing, because it was promised we would move in together in July when his lease ran out, then he asked for six more months, and now another year. What I want just keeps getting pushed further and further along the football field.

All he is capable of is thinking about himself, it doesn't seem to go in that couples have joint goals. He said he wants to live with me, but only if I move to nearby his office because he has commuted before and it made him "miserable". I can't move for another year as I have a child finishing school.

He's rigid, and sticks with things and thoughts even when they're not helpful. I think he's beset with cognitive distortions and needs CBT (which he won't get). He's really not got skills for a healthy, happy relationship with anybody and the fact I have the patience of a saint has kept it going this long.

The thing is, i am also losing so much if / when I leave and it makes me so sad that we won't be together. I have started wondering if I should maybe just live a life that makes me miserable because being miserable with him is better than being miserable without him.

I feel I am just losing the plot here!

I see people who's husband's and partners compromise or make decisions as a couple and I am envious. But then I also see my DP is very loving to me in so many way a lot of people would kill for.

I never had a relationship that felt hard like this before. I don 't think it's the combination of us which makes it hard. I think being in a relationship with him would be hard for anybody

He is if we have any discussions about things where I want x and he wants y he will literally never cave

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LittleoldTERFy · 29/11/2021 16:58

OP you ned to read up on co- dependancy issues (yours)

You need to look at why you are willing to do this to yourself just for the sake of being with some one that isn't so great.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 29/11/2021 17:04

I would concur you are codependent and also you were likely taught to be so by one of your parents.

What do you want to teach your child about relationships and just what are they learning here?. Would you want your child to be in such a relationship, no. And its not good enough for you either.

Theturnofthepoo · 29/11/2021 17:07

Op as an outsider in the same situation. The commute thing is so pathetic. He is a stick in the mud commitment phobe and yes it sounds like it is a codependent relationship, some counselling might help in order to detach from it all. I’m sorry if I sound cold but life is slipping by (for me too as I’m in the same situation) and these cycles are exhausting

youvegottenminuteslynn · 29/11/2021 17:15

But then I also see my DP is very loving to me in so many way a lot of people would kill for.

How so? I agree it sounds like low expectations and codependency may be a combo here.

Katyrosebug · 29/11/2021 17:18

Hi op, I've been where you've been.
I was trapped in a relationship for 4.5 years, we were better suited as friends, however I loved the life style of where we lived, I was also 1000's of miles from any friends or family, I had a car on finance and I also had dogs. When I broke it down the main reason that kept me was what would happen to the car, his aunt was also named on it, and what would happen to the dogs. The longest I'd been away for was 1 night. I was utterly miserable and lost some really good years of my life.
Somethinf snapped in me 1 day and I'd had enough, I gave my notice with work the following day and spoke to family who booked my flights home, the car took 11 months to finally transfer completely over, I miss the dogs but at the same time I also know they are loves.
Im now very happily married a d it was honestly the best thing I ever did

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