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Erectile Dysfunction (ED) & What to do when she needs time and space, but misunderstanding could be critical!

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zEleanorRigby · 02/11/2021 16:19

My partner has a dismissive avoidant attachment style and regularly becomes withdrawn and cold. I myself have more of an anxious preoccupied attachment style, although since discovering attachment theory I am better able to respond in these situations know that I am assured that her reasons for withdrawal are usually more to do with how she's feeling internally.

I've been gradually developing ED this year, and the last time we met it had gone from issues maintaining an erection to full blown 'can't get it up if I tried' ED, which she has chosen to interpret as a sign that I am no longer attracted to her, which couldn't be further from the truth. This is actually a complete myth that every sexual health professional will tell you. I've told her on a few occasions now the reasons I suspect it is happening, which relate to anxiety and related mental health issues that I am receiving therapy for. After our last meet it was clear to me that it was triggering the next bout of withdrawal and I sent her a long and detailed message to explain that the ED had nothing to do with her and actually sent her links to websites that would confirm this and better explain why ED happens. I hoped it would help reassure her, but I know she doesn't like to talk about emotional issues and suspect she's not read any of the info I sent her and would rather maintain the bogus myth much to her detriment, and therefore much to my detriment also. I am working to fix my own issues but they go right back to my early years and it's taking time to decipher things. We've been in this relationship for a few years now, but have previous history which was on/off with large gaps in between, and I perceived this as rejection each time, went through the heartbreak etc etc. Because of this I probably don't express myself in a hugely genuine way anymore and I don't get excited about things like I did when I was a child, but it doesn't alter the way I feel about her, I'm more in love than I ever was. It has increased my own anxiety because I fear losing her more, and the ED only started to progress after I started worrying about how it could affect things. I am naturally working to rectify this, but how long is a piece of string.

Should I continue to give her space and time, or is this pivotal moment when I need to intervene?

She is going through her own crisis of confidence right now, so this could not have come at a worse time. She is experiencing a high level of stress and pressure from work and family commitments, and issues regarding the father of her child who I believe is being emotionally abusive to her. Oh and she also has not gotten over the death of her father some 15 years ago.

She can't trust herself to not eat a whole massive bar of chocolate, so her answer is to never have chocolate in the house. This is her preferred avoidant technique. Her answer to any personal emotional problem is to downplay and ignore it, and focus on something else. She has overloaded herself with even more work, social events (not with me) which involves a lot of alcohol consumption, and even charitable work. This ensures she has no unoccupied time in which she could let her emotional guard down.

As well as wanting to reassure her of my feelings, I have wanted to talk about her own issues and encourage her to seek therapy. But the problem with dismissive avoidant people is that they have to actually want to change, in order for them to learn about their mental health and see therapy. So often they reject any form of intervention. The irony is that they have are strong minded and have great willpower when it comes to avoidance, so much so that they are more than capable of tackling their traumatic and unresolved past.

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me4real · 23/11/2021 02:17

Also, whether I put up with it would be more quickly decided if the person did not bother to get ay evidence-based medical treatment etc.

would you really be ok demoting someone, who was perhaps the love of your life until they developed a health problem affecting their ability to have sex, to a mere friend?

I pretty much did and have no regrets. It's not just lack of good sex; ED sex is usually bad sex. Bad sex is very unpleasant to have and I'd rather have none.

Please do seek medical assistance, and if you have in the past, please go back again so they can try something different.

Pinkbucket · 23/11/2021 02:18

I also think that being ‘prepared to put up with it ‘ for me personally at least would have a lot to do with whether or not my partner was actively seeking help for the issue and also whether he was getting off to other women . If he wasn’t seeking medical help and was climaxing to other women if just feel horrible and it would kill any desire for me
If on the other hand he was working with me for a mutually satisfying sex live and seeking help, personally I’d be much more inclined to stay .

Pinkbucket · 23/11/2021 02:20

OP I don’t know if either of those apply to you as you don’t say but as a woman these would be very important to me

SilverBirchWithout · 23/11/2021 02:50

Personally I would be able to cope with the ED and want to work with a DP to help resolve the problem.
However I would find all the psychological theories and analysis of our ‘issues’ seriously off-putting, I don’t think it’s really helping either of you. Maybe work on the sex and leave all the other stuff outside the bedroom.

user1481840227 · 23/11/2021 02:56

My God there are some horrible responses on this thread!
Men really shouldn't post here because they get attacked every time.

If a woman posted on here saying that her partner regularly became withdrawn and cold and she occasionally had vaginismus then everyone would be telling her no wonder her vagina was staying shut because her partner was emotionally abusive!!

If she said she tried to explain the vaginismus to him as due to anxiety and mental health issues but that he was stonewalling her and refusing to discuss it, accusing her of not being attracted to him then people would say he's manipulative!

Pinkbucket · 23/11/2021 04:24

@user1481840227

My God there are some horrible responses on this thread! Men really shouldn't post here because they get attacked every time.

If a woman posted on here saying that her partner regularly became withdrawn and cold and she occasionally had vaginismus then everyone would be telling her no wonder her vagina was staying shut because her partner was emotionally abusive!!

If she said she tried to explain the vaginismus to him as due to anxiety and mental health issues but that he was stonewalling her and refusing to discuss it, accusing her of not being attracted to him then people would say he's manipulative!

I’m not seeing any horrible responses at all . Are you a man ? Because you seem to be taking a really strange pov from posts that are trying to explain how a woman might be seeing this . Strange post
IknowwhatIneed · 23/11/2021 04:43

If I was married to the woman I loved, but for extreme medical reasons completely unable to perform any sex act on my wife, I would be open to the idea of inviting a third person into our lives and establishing a new dynamic that is inclusive of all three and enables me to contribute to and be present in the experience.

She may never leave the house without an orgasm but that doesn’t mean she’s happy with the situation. Sporadic ED is very hard to live with - the “will we, won’t we” of it all. You’ve still not answered the questions about porn use and whether you’ve seen a medical doctor about it.

And what I’m reading is if you couldn’t have sex with your partner, you’d aim for a threesome type situation where you’d be present and involved? What if she just wanted to have sex with you or someone else without you being present?

MissyB1 · 23/11/2021 09:30

@me4real

“Not prepared to put up with it”? That just means the person isn’t that serious about the relationship.

@MissyB1 Erm, no! No matter how much I adore someone, eventually I'm going to want decent sex. And for me personally, that means penetrative sex.

Clearly that’s your priority in a relationship then. Each to their own I guess.
me4real · 23/11/2021 13:02

@MissyB1 It wouldn't be my main priority, but I had a long term partner for many years who was incapable of good sex due to ED etc.

At one point I suddenly remembered what good sex was like. Life is too short to be without it, at least while we're young enough to get decent sex from some in our dating pool. The older we get, the more men in our age group will be impotent or sexually unreliable. So we have to seize the day. I'm 44 so time is of the essence. I know not all older men are impotent, but the older they get the higher the risk.

I haven't had a lover for over 18 months and I love it compared to the bad sex I used to have, sucking a permanently impotent micropenis. I wouldn't want just sex (hence I'm not on Fabswingers or anything) but it is something I want in my life as part of a satisfying relationship.

user1481840227 · 23/11/2021 16:56

@Pinkbucket
No I am not a man.
There are lots of horrible responses, you're just choosing not to see them!

IamGusFring · 23/11/2021 17:08

There's a lot of talk here but no action - have you consulted a doctor ? Have you used meds ?

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