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AIBU?

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allthesharks · 16/10/2021 00:36

I'm not brave enough for AIBU. Last Sunday I was stressing (internally) about how much I had to do that day - DDs' school uniform, homework, DD1 needed new shoes, they both needed a bath and hairwash etc. I also I have a DS1 and I have recently been discharged from a mental health unit due to depression and anxiety.

DP went to pick up a click and collect while I looked after the kids. When he got home he started putting the shopping away while I was doing homework with the DDs. DS needed to go down for a nap and DP asked me to do it. In theory, no problem but the list of things to be done was on my mind. I took DS for his nap and when I came back down DP was reorganising the cupboard. I said to him, constructively, that I'm a bit stressed with how much there is to be done and I would appreciate him checking in with me to see what I need to get done before he goes ahead with things that could wait. He said that what I was asking was entirely reasonable and he would check with me next time. I then went to help DD2 learn her spellings.

After that I went to make a coffee and DP was re-organising the fridge. I, somewhat jokingly, asked him if he remembered the conversation we had just had. He said he did but didn't think sorting the fridge would be a problem. During all of this the only thing that's coming off of "my" list is the DDs homework.

We're then making lunch and I snap about something. I admit that I'm entirely wrong for snapping! When he asks me what's wrong I said it pissed me off that he went ahead with the fridge given the conversation we'd just had, and told him I was stressing about everything I had to do that day. We had a conversation about it, he was reasonable, we had lunch and then we came up with a plan for the afternoon. He suggested he iron the uniform while I bathe the DDs. I went up to run their bath and there wasn't enough hot water.

This is where it all went to shit. I went back down to put the water on and I could tell he was pissed off. I asked him what was wrong and he said he was pissed off I snapped earlier. I said I was sorry for snapping and explained that I was feeling overwhelmed. He was still pissed off because I'd prevented us from being as productive as we needed to be. I pointed out that him being pissed off was further stopping us from being productive. He went off in a sulk, shouted a bit and then said he needed to go for a walk. While he was out I got the DDs bathed and cooked dinner.

When he came back, he questioned why I could be productive when he wasn't there. Later, once he had got the DC to bed, I sat down on the kitchen floor (I don't know why but it's where I tend to end up when I'm feeling low). He came down from getting the DC to bed and offered me a cuddle on the sofa. I said I couldn't because I needed to get stuff done. He left the room and then quickly came back to say that my response had pissed him off because I clearly wasn't too busy to sit on the floor (he knows that me sitting on the floor is a sign of my depression worsening). He challenged me about why I couldn't get on with stuff so I forced myself to get up, mostly through fear, and made the DDs packed lunches for the next day. Then he challenged me about why I managed to do that. He then told me that it pissed him off to see me sitting on the floor. I asked him why and he said "honestly, because you're wasting time".

That really got to me because the only reason I had reached the point of sitting on the floor is because I had kept going while he went out for a walk for nearly 2 hours, and as the DC were finally in bed I could take a bit of time to calm down. I'd been there less than 10 minutes. Why couldn't I take a small amount of time to calm down and process the argument when he'd had such along time out? We somewhat talked things through and went to bed on a better note.

When he left in the morning he didn't say "I love you", which he usually does. I went into a spiral of anxiety and fear that he would leave me like my XH did (important to note that I'm currently going through EMDR to process the trauma of my XH leaving, which DP is aware of). I sent him some messages on WhatsApp, which I didn't expect an immediate response to as he was at work, but he usually sends the odd message. But on this day there was nothing until he said later in the day that he hadn't responded partly because he was busy but partly because he didn't want to.

This rumbled on during Monday evening with him saying over and over that I shouldn't have snapped at him initially. I eventually broke down (on the kitchen floor) and he softened. He said he was sorry for giving me such a hard time about it and that he just needed time and he loved me. I accepted his apology and moved on.

Sorry this is so long!

This evening, he made a joke about something we were talking about and I made a counter joke. He responded by asking if I was ok and saying I was a bit shitty in my tone (there was nothing in it for me). He apologised quickly and said he didn't mean anything by it. I told him that I hadn't meant anything but his reaction had left me a bit cautious about what I say. We were cooking dinner while this went on and soon after this exchange I went in to the living room. My reason for walking away was that I knew it had rubbed me up the wrong way but I couldn't work out why, so I wanted to be alone to figure that out. He brought our dinner through and he was very frosty. I decided to confront it head on and told him why his reaction had irritated me. He then told me that it had irritated him that I hadn't accepted his apology and had walked away from him.

That brings me to my AIBU? I walked away because I thought if I stayed it might escalate. I didn't walk away mid conversation. There was no shouting. I just wanted to get my thoughts together. So AIBU for that?

Also, he expected me to accept his apology instantly. Yet when it was the other way around (ironically from misreading a tone), he felt he was within his rights to not accept my apology and kept reminding over and over again what I'd done wrong. So, AIBU?

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Aquamarine1029 · 16/10/2021 02:17

You're in a shit, abusive relationship that's doomed to fail. Sorry to be blunt, but it's true. There is pettiness, vindictiveness, and rubbish communication from both sides, and the simplest of molehills are made into mountains.

It's time to step back and really reflect on where this is going, and stop being so desperate to keep a relationship that may not be worth keeping.

imonlyhooman · 16/10/2021 02:19

@allthesharks please understand you feel like you're not coping because you are ill. Your illness is a small part of you that is currently taking over. You're feeling overwhelmed because just staying alive is hard now.

Things will get better. Your OH sounds like he doesn't really understand your depression which perhaps doesn't help.

Can you sit down with him and explain your feelings and how stressed and anxious you get, you know it's irrational to feel so overwhelmed and you're working on that but perhaps find a way to work together.

Your DC need you, however you feel now will get better, this is fleeting and whilst it's difficult and hard for you know that you will come through it.

Concentrate on the DC, try and share the household stuff and let go of things that don't get done.

Be kind to yourself, you matter, you're worth it x

allthesharks · 16/10/2021 02:24

I was in contact with Women's Aid earlier this week. I chose not to include the way he was towards me at that time as I hoped for a more balanced view. I suppose I wanted to protect him. My XH was physically, emotionally and sexually abusive. I can't bear the thought that my DP has any traits similar to that. I don't want to admit it. It is easier to accept that it's my fault. My mental health is the problem. I'm not normal. I make him angry. It's easier for everyone if I accept that I'm the problem.

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danidandan · 16/10/2021 02:25

I think your DP is trying.
He tried to cuddle you earlier and I think you're lashing out at him and your judgement is being heavily clouded by your depression. The house seems to be running with rigid rules and things have to be OK'd by you.
It should just be basic teamwork.

As long as the kids are fed, clean, and happy that's all that matters. Who cares if the laundry isn't folded away.
Just breathe, chill out, get yourselves a takeaway when the kids are in bed. Lunchboxes take a couple of minutes. These are all trivial things and your DP is doing what he can. You're in a bad place mentally so you don't see it. It's not your fault, but it needs addressing. Call the crisis team and see if they can help you. In the grand scheme of things all these things you've listed are so small, and if you can get some help for your MH it may help you to rationalise things. He's probably exhausted with it all, as well as you.

Be a team and be there for each other, or separate until you can be in a better place. I mean this kindly, do you think you were ready for another relationship if you're still dealing with all of this because of your XH?

Be gentle on yourself OP, be gentle on your DP too. Things will get better. There is help out there for you Thanks

Mymapuddlington · 16/10/2021 02:27

My mental health is the problem. I'm not normal. I make him angry. It's easier for everyone if I accept that I'm the problem.

You need to contact the unit you were discharged from, or 111, or crisis team. I understand you’re depressed but wallowing in it isn’t helping you.

Mymapuddlington · 16/10/2021 02:27

Did dp have the children while you were in the health unit?

allthesharks · 16/10/2021 02:28

My OP really wasn't about how much he does or doesn't do. It was about the reaction and how I found that unfair - I snapped in a situation where I was overwhelmed, and I was wrong. He snapped in a situation where he felt criticised, and I was wrong. He walked away when it was too much, and he was in the right. I walked away to prevent it escalating, and I was wrong. He said sorry and I didn't immediately accept it, I was wrong. I said sorry, and I was wrong. That was the crux of it. But, as he has told me for so many months, my mental health is the problem, and I don't deserve any equality while that's an issue.

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leeds2glasgow · 16/10/2021 02:40

I think you should try the Samaritans again.

allthesharks · 16/10/2021 02:41

It isn't me who is putting pressure on getting everything done. It's taken time but I've learnt to be "kind to myself" and not give myself a hard time if it's not done. Mostly my DP is ok if things aren't done, but if he has a rant about things he'll say the laundry not being put away is an issue, and various other bits and pieces that fall under "my remit". I try so hard to focus on what I've done, rather than what I haven't. Even if that's just getting out of bed in the morning. But sometimes, at the weekend when DP is home, he'll give me a hard time if I can't get in to the shower. I know it sounds ridiculous, I know it's not hard, but sometimes it feels like the biggest challenge in the world and he'll get annoyed that I can't do it. I know he has a hard time understanding mental health. But I feel so useless for the little things I can't do, and having him challenge me feel so pathetic and worthless.

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CatonMat · 16/10/2021 02:41

But he is doing his bit to try and help and support you, even if he's getting it wrong.
I can't reconcile what he has said with the way he is behaving.

It all sounds exhausting.
Can you not just both agree to concentrate on sorting out some of the washing whenever you have time?

Mymapuddlington · 16/10/2021 02:44

I honestly don’t get it.

Your first post he sounds amazing.
Now everything is his fault.

You’re veering from saying your awful and hate yourself and it’s all your fault to you’re kind to yourself and it’s all dps fault.

It’s gone from the overwhelming list that you made to you’re not fussed and it’s dp that is.

I’m really confused.

allthesharks · 16/10/2021 02:45

I just can't anymore

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Mymapuddlington · 16/10/2021 02:45

You need to contact your crisis team.

allthesharks · 16/10/2021 02:47

@Mymapuddlington

I honestly don’t get it.

Your first post he sounds amazing.
Now everything is his fault.

You’re veering from saying your awful and hate yourself and it’s all your fault to you’re kind to yourself and it’s all dps fault.

It’s gone from the overwhelming list that you made to you’re not fussed and it’s dp that is.

I’m really confused.

It's the pressure of the repercussions that will come from him if I don't do what he wants.
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danidandan · 16/10/2021 02:48

He's trying though. He's comforting you. Well trying. He's trying to tackle the big jobs like cleaning out the fridge and cupboard, perhaps because he thinks this is too overwhelming for you? It sounds like you're both trying but missing each other in the middle and you both have different expectations. This is all very jumbled and doesn't make sense.

If you're struggling to do minimal things like have a shower, you need to get in touch with the crisis team again.

allthesharks · 16/10/2021 02:49

I've been trying SO hard to be kind to myself and to not beat myself up if I don't manage to do something. But he will. He'll give me a hard time for it. I'm always trying to do what will please him. When I do it, it gets no reaction, but when I don't he gets cross.

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allthesharks · 16/10/2021 02:51

I don't have time to have a shower. Maybe one some mornings if I get time between the school drop off and starting work. But otherwise the ranking goes: the kids, him and then me if there's time.

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danidandan · 16/10/2021 02:55

Could you not shower before the children wake up? Just a 5 minute jump in an out? Or when they've gone to school / childcare?

I think you're both just exhausted. From his point of view he may be, rightly or wrongly, exhausted from all of this, trying to get you to shower, trying to help by doing big jobs etc.

And you sound exhausted and burnt out from your mental health which is awful for you too.

Perhaps some counselling for you both? To help you both understand each other's expectations? Or some time apart to refresh?

Clementineapples · 16/10/2021 03:00

You obviously hate dp who sounds like an angel so leave.

Dandy0911 · 16/10/2021 03:05

Your DP sounds like a good man, I mean this kindly but don't push him away.

wandawaves · 16/10/2021 03:10

Oh OP Flowers you sound so overwhelmed.
I worry you're getting some harsh responses on here... if you take out the anxiety and depression, yeah you sound like hard work... but you DO have anxiety and depression, so I can see that you're overwhelmed at daily life, and as a result you're coming off as controlling, but only because you're so anxious and you need to somehow control SOMETHING in your life. It's completely understandable.

Do you still see a psychologist? It sounds like the 2 of you should go together, about how to communicate with each other when you are overwhelmed. He needs to know how to be gentle and patient with you. And you need to know how to communicate how you are feeling when you're at the end of your tether.

That's based on your OP though, where he sounds great. Now your recent posts are saying he "gets cross" and there's "repercussions"?? Maybe you need to speak to your psychologist about that first.

chergar · 16/10/2021 03:15

I don't think he sounds amazing in your first post, he is being supportive if it doesn't put him out too much.

I get the feeling he doesn't understand depression and thinks you can switch it on and off, you have found some coping mechanisms that get you through but he is belittling these or just ignoring your distress.

I understand you will have every task you need to carry out going through your head at once and it all feels too much so when he is faffing about with cupboards and fridges it doesn't help your mental load.

It is hard living with someone with depression but it is bloody hard having it, your partner needs to understand more about this illness and how his actions can help or hinder your healing process.

None of it is your fault, you are doing really well even just getting out of bed in the morning, that is hard but you have done it.

The most important things are keeping yourself and the children safe, fed and clothed, that's your remit for now, anything else is a bonus - Clean laundry is amazing as well, it doesn't matter if it is not put away, you have clean clothes, that's another huge thing.

MsLizard · 16/10/2021 03:26

Is DP the kids dad?

Clementineapples · 16/10/2021 03:33

@MsLizard

I've also started EMDR, at this point focusing on my XH cheating on me and walking out on me and my DD

I’d assume not.

RelapsedChocoholic · 16/10/2021 04:57

I agree with chergar’s post
I don’t think he sounds amazing in your op, although I can empathise why he might also be struggling with you having depression

To answer your question; no, imo, it’s not fair that he gets to walk away when he’s upset by something (rightly or wrongly) but you’re not given the same allowances

Being right is perhaps not the most important thing at the moment though - would it be possible to take a break from one another, do you have the support to do that?

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