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Do you have a partner who hides their emotions?

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Cantcook842 · 07/10/2021 08:06

Looking for tips on how to deal with this. I have been with my partner for 20 years so I literally know him inside out. He's always been the same and I accepted him for who he was because I loved him.
But as time is passing and I see other people's relationships around me, I feel sad.
I will start with saying I love him to bits. And I know he loves me. He's a good husband and good dad. Provides for us. Loves us. He doesn't drink or smoke. Treats us very well. We are affectionate with each other.

But he hides his emotions alot. He is very neutral all the time. Doesn't like being silly or loud. Feels uncomfortable around people who are. He rarely cracks a smile or laughs. For example we could be watching something funny on the TV. We are all belly laughing and his face is still neutral. I will ask him doesn't he think it's funny. He will say yes but doesn't feel the need to laugh.

He absolutely hates a fuss being made of him. He hates birthdays. It was his birthday a few days ago. He left for work early, came home late and went to bad after an hour. But he makes a huge fuss of us on our birthdays.
Wanted to get married but not in front of other people so we got married just the two of us. So I missed out on having a wedding. We never have parties or family gatherings at our house because he hates tbem.he will make many excuses not to go to other people's parties, most of the time he doesn't go and I have to attend his family events on my own. Sometimes he will go but will leave at the earliest opportunity.
He has told me that when he dies, he doesn't want a funeral. He wants something called direct cremation so that no one can attend.
When me and the kids are being silly dancing or playing games, he will not join in. Things like this make me really, really sad.
I ask him if he's depressed. He says he doesn't believe in depression. And that he's fine. His dad is exactly the same. They are carbon copies of each other. He is a very quiet man, doesn't speak much. Very nice though.
I don't want to leave him, I love him and he's wonderful in many ways but I feel so sad that he doesn't seem to find joy in life. He just says that nothing really has an effect on his emotions! He literally feels nothing.
Any ideas what this could be? As I said, it's not a new thing, he has always been like this to a degree. Apart from when he was at school when he was a normal teenagers who socialised and had friends. It's just since he's been an adult. It is not shyness, he is not a shy person. He has a senior management job where he speaks to many different people every day that he does no problem, but I know that's an act he puts on.
He's also told me that although he appears neutral on the outside, his mind is racing on the inside. He also doesn't sleep well

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gannett · 07/10/2021 08:17

He's undemonstrative and introverted. These are normal character traits. You can no more ask him to react with belly laughs than you could teach someone who wears their heart on their sleeve to have a poker face. Hating being the centre of attention is normal as well. I need to find out more about direct cremation because it sounds like just the sort of thing I want instead of a funeral.

I think you have to trust that he does find joy in life (and in you and the DC) even though he may not show it outwardly.

In your post the things I'd worry slightly about are his mind racing and being unable to sleep well, especially combined with the fact that he doesn't believe in depression. The latter is something he should really buck his ideas up on, it's a very backwards view of mental health and if God forbid you or the DC ever suffer depression it sounds like he won't be understanding. But more immediately - I don't think this is connected to his undemonstrativeness, but I'd wonder if the sleep/mind racing indicates stress or anxiety (that he's obviously doing a great job of hiding).

But it's OK not to show things. I watch a lot of tennis and there's a new young player called Elena Rybakina, and she's already become famous for never showing anything. She doesn't pump her fists, she doesn't yell "c'mon", when she has a big win she doesn't celebrate. She beat Serena Williams this year and didn't react at all. She says she's just naturally calm and finds it better to keep things inside, even though everyone takes the piss out of her for it.

MultiStorey · 07/10/2021 08:36

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EvenMoreFuriousVexation · 07/10/2021 08:48

When I started reading your post I thought ptsd. But then you said his dad is the same, so sounds more like learned behaviour.

Racing thoughts and difficulty sleeping is definitely a ptsd symptom.

It sounds like he doesn't feel he has permission to feel his feelings. Does he get more closed off after seeing his dad?

Cantcook842 · 07/10/2021 09:04

He has pulled away from his family as they don't show much interest in him /us. I think this has contributed. Because they are so quiet they say they don't like to be pushy or interfering, don't want to bother us. where as we see it as they don't care and aren't interested in us/the grandchildren. Yet they do so much for one of their other children.
I have explained to my husband that he comes across in the same way, and that people think he is unfriendly, standoffish, not interested. It worries me that when our kids are older they won't want to see him or will feel he is not interested.he is, but he doesn't know how to show it.
My dad is the opposite to him. He is very loud and likes to be the centre of attention. My husband hates him and hates to be around him. And my dad thinks my husband doesn't like him.
Our son is also a very loud character. He is amazingly funny, entertaining, high energy, has such a presence wherever he goes. The absolute opposite t my husband. My husband really struggles with this as our son is very overwhelming and for him.

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gannett · 07/10/2021 11:05

Why do the loud, centre-of-attention people always get the free pass and seen as normal? I find those loud, high-energy people exhausting to be around as well. And why do the introverts and quiet/shy types always get told we need to change just in case someone thinks we're standoffish?

As I said there are little details in your description that would concern me (a little bit) about your husband but you seem to want to change who he fundamentally is, or at least not accept that being an undemonstrative introvert is a valid way to exist. Leave him be!

Cantcook842 · 07/10/2021 11:22

I don't want to change him. I just want to know that he is actually OK. I worry that he is unhappy and experiencing no joy or happiness surely can't make you feel good?

I am very open with my emotions so struggle to relate.

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gannett · 07/10/2021 11:28

He would be unhappy if he was forced to be an outgoing social butterfly at the centre of attention.

Believe him when he says he's fine. Not showing happiness isn't the same as not feeling happiness (or just contentment, which is maybe more important). He just seems very even-keeled.

EvenMoreFuriousVexation · 07/10/2021 11:38

experiencing no joy or happiness surely can't make you feel good?

It can make you feel safe though, which may be better fir him.

litterbird · 07/10/2021 11:49

I feel for you OP, I had a boyfriend just like your husband. Very introverted and I am extroverted. Couldn't be around anyone even the slightest bit loud or slightest bit happy and joyful. The day I realised I couldn't go on with him was when I invited him for Christmas with my daughter and her boyfriend who are equally joyful and great entertainment to be around. His reply was "sorry, no thank you, I dont want to be around your family who are just too exuberant. They are too noisy". I was heart broken as I really liked him but that was it for me, I couldnt be with someone who didn't want to be around my family, there was not point. It lasted 18 months. Your husband is an introvert through and through with many learned behaviours. Its sad for you as this has impacted on your life too. As you love him and there is no way he will change and nor should he, I am afraid this is it for you and your children for ever.

Alwayswanting1 · 07/10/2021 14:11

He is who he is. I’m the same. What’s one persons idea of what happiness looks and feels like is not the same for everyone. Maybe he struggles with the way you show your emotions. I dislike attention, dinner parties, formal events, a big wedding would terrify me also. It’s not because I’m unhappy it’s just who I am. I’m me and he is just being him I suppose. If someone made me be someone else I wouldn’t like it and instead of doing things that made me feel uneasy I would probably just leave. Obviously I would I try and accommodate what the other person needs in some ways.

MultiStorey · 07/10/2021 15:22

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Cantcook842 · 07/10/2021 18:47

He's told me before that if I left him for any reason, he would live alone for the rest of his life almost like a hermit quite happily. I find this quite concerning

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HelpWendy · 07/10/2021 21:45

I am not saying this is the case for you. But your message resonated with me in ways. A flatness, no expression, an emotional island. My husband was diagnosed as schizoid this year, all it all makes sense. I’d never heard of it before. I guess it could be described as a slower burner ptsd, developed by the age of 7. It has similar traits that’s all.

HundredMilesAnHour · 07/10/2021 21:56

He's an introvert. You're not. Stop judging him by your extrovert standards, that's incredibly unfair. There's lots of material on introversion. Do some reading to try and understand introverts better. Right now it sounds like you don't have a clue and you assume extroversion is normal and introversion isn't. That's very wrong.

OldChinaJug · 07/10/2021 22:00

I can be a bit like this.

I got married in a registry office with only my partner, children and 2 witnesses. I don't celebrate my birthday. I'll be having a direct cremation. I can't bear being the centre of attention.

category12 · 07/10/2021 22:13

My husband hates him and hates to be around him. And my dad thinks my husband doesn't like him.

Well, unless you mis-wrote, your dad is right.

It doesn't sound like introversion to me - I'm an introvert but I'm happy, I laugh, I can be silly, especially around my kids.

He sounds really really emotionally repressed, which has been taught to him by his father, presumably.

sospspsp · 07/10/2021 22:20

@HundredMilesAnHour

He's an introvert. You're not. Stop judging him by your extrovert standards, that's incredibly unfair. There's lots of material on introversion. Do some reading to try and understand introverts better. Right now it sounds like you don't have a clue and you assume extroversion is normal and introversion isn't. That's very wrong.

He doesn't sound like an introvert to me, and I find your comment a bit insulting to introverts.

Op it's a bit odd when you say that your dh complains that your Dd doesn't like him, when your dh doesn't like your Dd!?!He (your dh) sounds very very rigid.

Being an introvert doesn't need you are a blank and not emotional and don't know how to have fun and join in (even if it's just occasionally) I think it's really sad for you and your dc that he opps out of family fun and jinks 100% of the time. My dd was a cold shut off arsehole, but I can still remember him joining in with family fun on occasion (when it suited him) he wasn't a complete disfunctional robot!

I don't want to pry (and no need to answer) but I'm wondering what the heck is sex/intimacy is like with someone like that, with no emotions?

hellcatspangle · 08/10/2021 07:36

I'll be having a direct cremation. I can't bear being the centre of attention. but you won't know? A funeral isn't for you, it's for your family to express their grief and you'll be denying them that.

Alwayswanting1 · 08/10/2021 08:46

Just because you are dead doesn’t mean you have no say. I would expect people to still respect my wishes of how I want to be dead, whether they find that outrageous or not to there liking, it’s my death, my body.

My dad did not want any physical reminder of his death, no headstone etc. I respected his wishes and instead I have a tree in my garden I planted as a reminder. I still have all the memories. It was who is was and I respect that because I loved him for all of who he was. Love people for who they are not how you want them to be. I tend so think people open up a bit more then.

MultiStorey · 08/10/2021 19:51

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sospspsp · 08/10/2021 19:59

@Alwayswanting1

Just because you are dead doesn’t mean you have no say. I would expect people to still respect my wishes of how I want to be dead, whether they find that outrageous or not to there liking, it’s my death, my body.

My dad did not want any physical reminder of his death, no headstone etc. I respected his wishes and instead I have a tree in my garden I planted as a reminder. I still have all the memories. It was who is was and I respect that because I loved him for all of who he was. Love people for who they are not how you want them to be. I tend so think people open up a bit more then.

Isn't a tree a physical reminder? A relative had one planted instead of a headstone, as a physical marking of their death.
Fadingout · 08/10/2021 20:38

I’m very very similar to your husband. My mum previously has described me as very cold both and often people think I’m aloof. I’m not just very quiet I suppose. I’m not a centre of attention type, I’m not loud, and I’m very controlled with my emotions. I have a very loud internal mind and find noise, talking to people ( I do it a lot for work) quite tiring. I also struggle with concentration so I tend to need quiet time.

vincettenoir · 08/10/2021 20:58

If his Dad is the same he likely grew up learning that it was not ok to share his feelings. Given that he’s now older and shows no wish to change he is unlikely to move in your direction. It might help to say you are willing to be there for him when he is feeling bad. But he might not be able to share those feelings.

Recognising this is not a bad thing. Perhaps something you can do for yourself is realising the importance of maintaining your emotional connections with friends and family outside of your relationship with him. So you don’t feel that you are missing out.

MarleneDietrichsSmile · 08/10/2021 21:02

He’s just an introvert I think

You knew that, for example with the wedding request

Why is it a problem now?

category12 · 08/10/2021 21:16

Introvert doesn't mean not showing any emotions.