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Have i just been an idiot and destroyed things?

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abersterol · 05/10/2021 16:00

A year ago today I met the man I am currently with. He’s 39, I was 35 last week. When we met I was very clear I wanted to settle down and have a family. He said the same. He has a job that means he works 7am to usually half 8 (this is relevant I think).

In short, we’ve had brief sex twice, both times for about two minutes and then he stops. We’ve had other intimacy, he goes down on me and I on him, he’s hard when we kiss and he’s into cuddling and is quite affectionate that way. I’ve asked him why he’s reluctant to have proper full sex (we’ve done it twice and the last time was in may). I’ve asked him literally everything I could think of, gone through all the possible anxieties, worries or concerns he may have from sti to performance and everything in between. I’ve sat and held his hand and said whatever the issue is I’m here to work through it with him. I’ve also asked outright if he just doesn’t like sex. His answer is always the same: he wants sex, he wants that with me, he doesn’t have a reason why we haven’t developed that side to the relationship and he can’t promise me when we will do it but he knows he wants to at some point. So what happens is I leave it, a week or two, then obviously we do other things and he ejaculates with a blow job and things carry on, but I start feeling upset about the fact there’s no progress with sex and no answer as to why we are no doing it. He recently told me the last time he did have sex was 7 years ago. He’s not had a relationship for a long time and the longest has been much shorter than ours at a few weeks/months. I wondered if he was worried about performance but I’ve asked sensitively about that too and he says not.

That’s issue one.

Issue two is that since June I’ve been trying to book a short break from Saturday to Monday, to go away for a long weekend together. He’s not keen on taking time off/started a new job recently so said he doesn’t know if he can etc. I’ve said it’s just one day of annual leave. He’s said he can’t go abroad or go far as he just doesn’t want to do that right now with work. I’m not exactly sure why as his colleagues go away and they’re in the same role but he seems to find it all stressful. Eventually he agreed to ask to take a Monday off in October and so I booked somewhere an hour away, just for a change of scenery. It turns out he didn’t ask work/couldn’t take it off in the end. He’s not suggested another weekend or even said let’s just have a night away on a Saturday instead which I would have thought was a compromise. I know this is a bit of a first world problem and if the relationship is good then maybe I should stop complaining about something like this, but I guess it had upset me he didn’t want to find any extra time to share together. Again with this I was very patient, he said he did want to go away but didn’t know when etc etc. So I emailed him some dates and hotels and asked which he liked. He said he liked one of them and so I said I would provisionally book. Then he makes zero steps to organise it with his work or suggest an alternative. It makes me feel a bit messed around.

All this came to a head a few nights ago. We’d had a nice meal and come home and were watching a film, kissing etc. I suggested sex and he just stopped and shook his head. I asked why and he shook his head and didn’t answer. I got really upset. Said we’d had a nice night, if you want sex like you’ve said then why aren’t you doing that… it escalated.

I said it wasn’t normal to say you want sex and then not do it. I said he was weird for not wanting to go away together and do something nice and that most normal people in an adult relationship would appreciate me taking time to fit in with them and find somewhere nice to go for a two night break once in a year. I said he was selfish for not listening to me or compromising, said he was making me miserable and why couldn’t he at least understand that as a couple he should be honest and if he wants us to be together he needs to understand that you have to compromise. I said it was obvious why he had never had a relationship before. I said he was a bastard for playing games (no idea if he is but it felt that way). I asked him if he just wanted to break up because I couldn’t understand why he would treat me this way. I also raised the fact that in summer he would only see me briefly on a Sunday night for a few weeks and wouldn’t go for a meal or do anything as he had an interview coming up. It was a huge interview to be fair to him but I found it all a bit odd and extreme and said it was hurtful at the time.

He got upset and then defensive, said he does compromise to be with me because he spends all his free time with me outside work …that is mostly true he does but I said that’s not compromising, that’s just having the relationship. He said he would usually work later than he does it it wasn’t for me, so therefore it was a compromise Hmm

It ended with him saying I clearly thought he was inadequate and therefore he couldn’t meet my needs and I had been horrible to him and that changed how he felt now.

We had some breathing space and reconvened when calmed down but even then he was reluctant to actually talk about things rationally. He didn’t say much and I still have no idea when he wants sex other than he told me that the last two weeks he was too tired after work. He didn’t explain the last 11 months though.

Aside from these things we have had a lovely relationship. I do love him. He’s said the same to me. We’ve had some lovely times and I honestly thought he was the person I would be with.

Have I ruined it this by flying off the handle and saying horrible things in anger? I feel terrible and he is saying he questions the whole relationship after how I snapped. I am conflicted because I know I have been so patient and loving and kind in the past about these things. I’ve told him i support him and there’s no pressure and I’ve generally tried to be lighthearted about trips away and sex but obviously have mentioned it intermittently as time has gone on. He’s a nice person but his reaction to my outburst seems to be to ignore why it happened and to have a reason to withdraw further rather than sitting down together and having a chat about how we can work on things. Have i messed this all up? I also feel desperately sad at the thought of starting again at this age. It scares me. I probably sound pathetic here but IRL I have a good job and I’m usually quite together and positive :(

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Peridot1 · 05/10/2021 16:36

Run. It really shouldn’t be this hard.

And I say that as a late 50s woman who didn’t run from a similar relationship and married him. We are still together but haven’t had sex for years. We should never have stayed together and to be honest I look back and wonder what I was thinking to keep forcing it.

Like you a booked weekends away. Nights out. Etc. I had to fit in around work. He made it obvious he wasn’t into weekends away.

Oddly enough we ended up living in a few different countries and did a lot of travelling but not just booking a weekend away for us. It was all around big trips or travelling with friends etc.

Relationships shouldn’t be this hard that you are second guessing yourself all the time and getting upset because he won’t have sex with you. I remember the feeling and it’s horrible.

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Flowerpower23 · 05/10/2021 16:39

Are you sure he isn’t married or something? This sounds like you’re the other woman and he therefore can’t tell you why he can’t go away with you or go for meals out and is probs happy with you just doing foreplay for now.

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Rainbowshine · 05/10/2021 16:40

Issue 2 is clearly due to issue 1. Going away for a weekend = sex and he’s avoiding that.

Issue 1 - you’ve been together for a year and had bad penetrative sex twice. This man is never going to give you a better experience. This is how he is. It doesn’t matter what reason lies behind it, what’s important is that it doesn’t work for you.

Then he doesn’t even engage in a conversation about the issues. So how can you even contemplate this man being a partner? There’s no sign or action from him to show he’s remotely ready to be a partner. At the moment he’s an appallingly bad date.

Give up on this one. It will never be what you want. He will not change. End things and consider why you feel that you have to be so understanding and patient and empathetic and allow him to be selfish, incapable of having a conversation or doing the normal things that a couple would do.

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DebbieHarrysCheekbones · 05/10/2021 16:42

It shouldn’t be this difficult
Just accept it’s run its course and find someone who actually wants to make sex a part of a fulfilling romantic intimate relationship. As it normally is

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Smashingspinster · 05/10/2021 16:44

I feel terrible and he is saying he questions the whole relationship after how I snapped. I am conflicted because I know I have been so patient and loving and kind in the past about these things.

FFS! Relationships are about communication, valuing each other and compromise. You have worked really hard here. He as done nothing to make things work. He has clearly told you that you are less important than his work with the holiday thing (although I wonder if some of that is a fear about having sex). As for the sex thing, he may be very low sex drive, or asexual, have a physical problem he does not want to face, or has prior trauma. He may also be gay but not wanting to be if you see what I mean. Whatever the reasons, he has consistently refused to work on the relationship with you - it is not enough to just say he doesnt know and leave it there. You deserve so much better.

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Smashingspinster · 05/10/2021 16:45

PS - the whole thing about not feeling the same since you snapped is BS - he can now blame you for it not working out without taking any responsibility.

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Doomscrolling · 05/10/2021 16:45

Cut your losses. There is no future with this man.

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QuiltedHippo · 05/10/2021 16:49

What a loser, cut your loses

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Tellmeee · 05/10/2021 16:49

If you stay with him you will regret it. You’re 35. Do you want children? Does he? Not going to happen is it?

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Mum2021askingquestion · 05/10/2021 16:53

Are his initials DP? This is achingly similar to a friend's relationship ten years ago

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Talith · 05/10/2021 16:53

There will be someone out there who'd kill for a partner with low sex drive. My sister says the expectation to have sex is what puts her off going dating again post divorce whereas it would drive me mad to be in that/your position! Not all men are horndogs and we shouldn't put pressure on anyone to have sex when they're not wanting it.

I don't think he's being particularly weird although he's been thoughtless on the going away issue - he's just wrapped up in his own life and has a low libido. Basic incompatibility.

I've felt awful when I've lost my temper but usually there's a reason for it so don't beat yourself up, it all sounds frustrating.

A good sex life takes up 1% of your mental space. A crappy one takes up 100%

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TopCatsTopHat · 05/10/2021 16:57

Well, you might be scared of starting again but if you stay with this guy you will have to shelve a good chunk of what you want in life and wish for in a relationship. You would be coupled up and you clearly strongly want that, but the constant burying of what you are seeking to fit into this relationship will erode the live you have for him now and ultimately leave you bitter and resentful.
Maybe reconciling yourself to starting again is better than that.
What you want and what he can give are so far apart it's unreal. You'll never have a family with this guy for a start (unless you adopt but given he can't find the energy to get on board with a weekend away I'm struggling to see that happening).
He's in a relationship with someone whose feelings he can't /won't engage with who thinks he's inadequate. You're in a relationship with someone who can't /won't communicate on critical issues and has saidhe wants sex and a family but... Well actions speak louder than words.
This is the definition of settling! Sticking with someone though they are a bad fit because you don't want to be alone.
The trouble is that being in a couple can be (and often is) worse than being alone.

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SilverTonguedDevil · 05/10/2021 16:57

Could he be gay?

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AgathaX · 05/10/2021 16:58

At this stage in your relationship the garden should be full of roses. You should be happily planning you're future, making time to be with each other, enjoying sex.
It shouldn't be this difficult. I can't see it getting easier or better really, given how it's been so far.

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bogeythefungusman · 05/10/2021 17:00

Life's too short. Really. Bin and move on.

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LemonMeringueThreePointOneFour · 05/10/2021 17:01

No, fuck men who behave in a thoroughly weird way and then make out you're the one with the problem when you eventually bring it up.

You're better off without him.

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abersterol · 05/10/2021 17:04

I don’t have a big sex drive. I just wanted to share that moment with him from time to time. That was enough for me. It’s the total absence of it that I find hard and sad. And the confusion when he says ‘I do want that, I just can’t tell you when.’ What am I supposed to make of that? I’ve been so so patient and understanding. In summer he didn’t want sex apparently because he was focusing on his interview. I accepted that and left it entirely for a few weeks. I’ve been respectful. I’ve asked if he’s asexual. He said he isn’t and also is very happy to do other things.

As for the trips away, I’ve been understanding there too. Said I would try and accommodate a date that suited him if he wanted to check with work first, then I would check mine. I said let’s go somewhere an hour away so it’s not too much time out of his day/weekend. He says he would love to and loves the idea but he doesn’t know when he can do that so can’t commit to it. It’s so confusing.

I feel bad as in the argument when I snapped I said all sorts, I think I said his dad and brother weren’t a good example to him as they never leave the house and that’s not normal. I said please get help, told him he needs help and that it’s obvious to me now why he’s never had a relationship. I said he was ruining my weekends by behaving like this. I was cruel and now he’s cold and distant with me because of it.

I’ve been kind to him and supported him wit work etc. I just don’t understand it.

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Evesgarden · 05/10/2021 17:05

OP, you may never ever find out the reason why he is behaving like this.

But honestly it sounds a bit shit. I would be pissed off with the booking a night a way thing and the fact he won't have sex with you isn't working for you is it?

He could have massive hang ups about sex
He could have premature ejaculation
He might not fancy you enough
He might be hooked on to porn so can only ejaculate when he is having a blow job

he could have a million and one issues but a year in and this is where you at? I would walk a away

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REDHERO · 05/10/2021 17:05

Erectile dysfunction? Can get hard but can't make it all the way by sex along. Maybe heavy porn user?

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Daisy62 · 05/10/2021 17:05

Have you met his friends and family? Like others, I thought he might be married. Either way, it doesn't sound like this is going anywhere good OP.

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REDHERO · 05/10/2021 17:06

@SilverTonguedDevil

Could he be gay?

I also thought this
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hashbrownsandwich · 05/10/2021 17:07

You've got time to find someone who can be as invested in a relationship as you are.

Honestly, bin him off ASAP.

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JudgementalCactus · 05/10/2021 17:07

@Buildingthefuture

Maybe I’ve spent too long on here, but my first thought was are you an unwitting OW? He won’t have full sex (to remain “faithful’ to his wife?) he spent weeks when he would only see you briefly on a Sunday night (wife had become suspicious?) and he won’t go away or take a day off (which would be hard to explain?) I hope I’m wrong, but either way, he’s obviously got some issues that he isn’t disclosing…..

Ding ding ding!
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friskybivalves · 05/10/2021 17:07

His brother and father literally do not leave the house? Have you met his family then? Has he had an unorthodox upbringing that would make intimacy and forming close relationships a particular problem for him?

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Evesgarden · 05/10/2021 17:08

I have just read your update OP about his dad and brother.

The apple never falls far from the tree.

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