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Confused thoughts about leaving husband

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yellowpigeons · 21/09/2021 10:21

I have name changed for this. I have posted a bit before but my thinking has come on a lot and I need some help any help thinking about this will be gratefully received. Basically I think I need to leave my husband, but the story is so unclear in my mind I worry I might simply be going mad. I am full of uncertainty and doubt over the last decade of my life. We have two kids under 10. I am at a point where I have lost a lot of weight, am not sleeping, struggling to meet work commitments, am gravitating towards any signs of kindness from friends and finding it hard to have the emotional energy to hold a space to engage properly in my kids' lives. Although he earns a lot more than me I am pretty much a single parent he rarely spends time with the kids and sort of uses the house as a backdrop to his career. He's in and out, often bad-tempered, or sometimes with a very fake cheerfulness, which I almost feel he does to practice and get into place his work persona when he's got something social/a meeting. He has always refused to do things together. He will do things alone, his way, or not at all. One example has been refusing to join in with festivities that he didn't himself organise (though he never has time or volunteers to organise them). He will call me a control freak for going ahead and organising the kids' birthday presents and getting together a thoughtful bunch of things. It's like he will lash out if he doesn't have a hand in something.

It's been a terrible lockdown/pandemic from my perspective. We have been beset with illness and bereavement, but more than this my H has been drinking heavily, often refusing to get out of bed, several times he has had horrible outbursts at me and even left, or stonewalled me for days. He's never directly apologised and blames me for the dynamic. Don't get me wrong, I'm not perfect. But I don't think I can cause him screaming at me in the middle of the night while I'm asleep and so on. It's been terrible and I feel like I've caught my breath all the time. I've put in extra effort for the kids, all the effort I have, and I am deeply empty, almost going insane.

As I move toward trying to separate I have been thinking over the past of the relationship, trying o work out what happened. At the time I met him I thought of myself as very strong but I have noticed there is another story there. I am from a very traumatic childhood, a difficult family, with a history of eating disorders and an alcoholic parent. Looking back I wouldn't have identified as that but I was very vulnerable. I had always been extremely cautious in relationships. This was suddenly different. He was extremely persuasive and also cross when he didn't get his way, and within six months or so we were living together and married, and I was pregnant. He already had older kids that I barely knew and lots of acrimony. I look back and think how could I have got into this? If a young woman told me about that situation now I would urge her to run for the hills. I am really struggling with this and my role in it the fact that I made those decisions and it was my responsibility to choose wisely and I failed. I look back over the years and I worked so hard to make things seem normal. A lot of his behaviour frightened and shocked me and I certainly joined in with a lot of arguments, so I felt co-responsible. I felt such deep shame when early on I realised it was a mistake, and so ashamed that I didn't really make any of the decisions in a good spirit, that I kept going and was determined to paper over the cracks and 'be normal'. As was to be expected the paper has crumbled off and I am left wondering what there ever was in the first place. I feel like he created in me and enormous sense of obligation to stick with it and make things work -- off the back of a short, probably toxic whirlwind courtship. I feel so done over and also extremely guilty and ashamed, and weak, and I can't compute what has happened. We have all the photos and emails and cards to make it look like it was a happy relationship, and so I wonder if this feeling I've been supressing is all in my own mind.

I think at the beginning I really believed he loved me, though I disliked his coercive style, I was swept along. I feel so stupid and guilty now and also like I have ruined lots of people's lives, including even his, by not doing the proper checks and thought processes at that very beginning.

If you asked him he'd say we were having some problems but that he loves me. He would never look what things are really like in the face.

Does anyone understand my story or have any ways I can use to think about this?

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yellowpigeons · 23/09/2021 10:05

Just a day or so but my heart was racing so high I think they've already taken some effect

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yellowpigeons · 23/09/2021 10:11

Well done for breaking free @sukipook, what you've been through sounds horrific

@twoandeights so sorry you've experienced similar

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Closetbeanmuncher · 23/09/2021 10:53

Brilliant, I'm really glad you took that step I think it will help you immensely when it comes to looking at the future through a clear lens.

yellowpigeons · 23/09/2021 13:22

It's hard to explain how very, very tired I am. I feel like my mind is broken and I've lost touch with everything. It's hard to even focus on the basics. I sometimes think abstractly that some intimacy would help, but I have no energy to find any. How do people ever recover from this kind of thing? I literally feel like my brain and heart have been hollowed out and filled with hurt.

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Closetbeanmuncher · 23/09/2021 14:39

Rumination is mentally and physically exhausting. Day in day out I'm not surprised you feel reduced to a shell.

Do you remember yourself before him? She's still in there but at the moment she's firefighting and suffocating. Once you remove yourself from this situation you'll find her again.

What you're describing is the lead up to a nervous breakdown. Do you have any support network irl?

Dery · 23/09/2021 18:29

As @Closetbeanmuncher said - it would be surprising if you weren't having the feelings you describe. The behaviour you're describing is abuse. Women who have survived both physical and emotional/psychological abuse often say that the emotional/psychological abuse was worse. Abuse is a crime. Domestic abuse may be the only crime where the victim lives at the crime scene with the perpetrator.

It's not surprising you're utterly worn out, drained, find even the smallest things difficult and in a brain fog. That's the result of being regularly under attack and having to be constantly hyper-vigilant.

It's really good that you're looking to leave. You have done nothing wrong. Don't beat yourself up for decisions made in the past. You can't change them and in any case they seemed like the right decisions at the time. The right decision now would be to extricate yourself from this marriage.

As Closet says - it sounds like you're building up to a nervous breakdown. What support do you have in real life? Who can help you start to make the arrangements you need to make to get away?

BurlyChassey · 23/09/2021 18:37

He sounds like he has some narcissistic personality traits. I say this because I am also with someone who has narcissistic traits. It is very difficult because you don’t know what’s really happening! You question your version of things (is this normal? Maybe it’s my fault! Maybe I’ve misunderstood the situation….) But I think you know I’m your heart this isn’t right. And I doubt there is anything in your power that can make it right because the fault is not with you, my love. Please don’t stay with him out of guilt. Guilt about the decisions you made all those years ago. You didn’t know what would happen. You didn’t know what he was really like. I am the same as you only worse because my DP and I had an affair and he left his DP for me! And now I am stuck here because I cannot conceive that the upset we caused was all for nothing. And I feel I deserve to be unhappy. It was a whirlwind and I loved him more than words can say. But now I know he isn’t what I thought he was. I do think he loves me, but only because I am so good to him. I have to try so hard. He is impossible to please. And I the idiot who keeps trying because I am guilty at what I put everyone through including my DC, who deserve to have stability. Please don’t stay because you feel guilty. Your life doesn’t have to be a life sentence. Do get some legal advice though as he sounds the sort that could turn nasty and it can put you in a weaker legal position if you leave the family home. Just try to imagine a life where you’re not walking on eggshells all the time and how liberating that will feel. Be strong. I wish I could be! Xxx

yellowpigeons · 23/09/2021 19:48

@BurlyChassey what you've written chimes with a lot of my own experience and part of why you feel so trapped is because you feel very obligated or that the stakes are very high, and they start being that high too early for you to properly assess what things will be like. You are roped in closely too early, when you're not thinking properly. I think it's such a shame this happens and that it has happened to us. It really has made me think about women and girls around the world who are similarly raced through quick courtships in different ways. I'm sorry for you.

@Dery and @Closetbeanmuncher I think you are right that it feels like the near edge of a nervous breakdown. I've never felt anything quite like it in all my life. I think it might be because you reach a place where emotions and thinking cease to work, and the only thing that can work is immediate action which you are too tired to take. The advice on this thread has been phenomenal, I am so grateful.

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yellowpigeons · 23/09/2021 19:51

@BurlyChassey although we didn't have an affair there was a similar process at the start where my H told me very adamantly that he'd broken up with my partner and sort of coerced me to do the same, even before we'd got together. How I could have been mind controlled like that I do not know. Scary.

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yellowpigeons · 23/09/2021 19:51

he'd broken up with HIS partner I mean!

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yellowpigeons · 24/09/2021 22:03

The advice here has been very useful to me this week and I feel on a more even keel. Thank you.

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