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In love with friend

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lemonadecar · 14/09/2021 10:54

Does anyone have any thoughts or advice? Things have been terrible in my relationship for years and have come to a head in the last two years. I have put in a lot of work being stable for the kids in the face of a very unstable and angry husband and also in trying to talk with him about the cause of the (very deep rooted) problems, to see if we could fix them. In this time there has been no intimacy of any kind. I've been very responsible, I think. It feels like the weight has all been on me.

I have not meant to, but over the past few years I have grown closer and closer to one of my friends. A normal friend who my husband knows, but who I am very alike and who is just very kind -- a nice person. It's got to the point where I feel I love this friend. I don't feel I have to admit it (though I'm sure he knows), but should I? What should I do. It isn't just a sexual thing, more a feeling of deep compatibility and warmth. Does it mean I need to not see my friend any more? That would be a great loss for me. Has anyone worked out how to handle this sort of thing. I can hardly blame myself for it happening, as I see things have been objectively rotten for me at home, and I don't want to make any kind of big mess.

I don't want the advice to tell my husband, he is always cross and irrational, and I haven't acted on it. He hasn't been nice to me and I don't feel I owe him an explanation of something that is just a feeling.

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lemonadecar · 14/09/2021 16:04

yes, I would tell her to leave

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blue30 · 14/09/2021 16:43

@lemonadecar

I see what you are saying *@blue30*. I think that the friendship is the only thing keeping me sane, and that if I moved back from it the issues with the marriage would either be pushed to the foreground or I would just melt back into putting up with them unhappily for another decade.
I've been there mate, shitty relationship and fell into an emotional affair. Sometimes there are no good options to choose from but you still have to pick one, either by action or lack of action.

We split up 3.5 years ago. I'm with a wonderful new partner who builds me up and looks after me instead of wearing me down and guilt tripping me. My daughter is a happy soul and our new routines work well.

To be fair if it wasn't for me falling in love with someone else I don't know if I would have found the courage to leave.

lemonadecar · 14/09/2021 16:58

@blue30 that’s a happy story! But I’m sorry you experienced the same before. Is your current lovely partner the man you fell in love with while in the relationship?

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colouringindoors · 14/09/2021 17:42

OP I'm sorry to agree with other posters to say you're in an abusive relationship. From the little you've said this man is verbally abusive - insulting you, putting you down, blaming you for things that aren't your fault. Over time this is very wearing and victims often start to believe what they're hearing because it's coming from their partner who says they love them. Alienating you from an important friendship is another indicator - removing support for you.

As others have said it's Never good for children to grow up in this situation. They learn that this is a normal relationship and thst is how men should treat women.

Please keep posting. And if possible try and find a friend or relative you can start to open up to about your DP.

You don't have to make any decisions today, but try and read some of the links and books mentioned.

I think sometimes it's only when we start to see how good a relationship can be - like with your friend - we truly realise our own situation is bad. Certainly applied to me.

take care.

lemonadecar · 14/09/2021 20:43

Thanks, @colouringindoors

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blue30 · 15/09/2021 09:13

[quote lemonadecar]@blue30 that’s a happy story! But I’m sorry you experienced the same before. Is your current lovely partner the man you fell in love with while in the relationship?[/quote]
No, how predictable was that Grin

lemonadecar · 15/09/2021 10:35

haha, of course!

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blueflowersgreenbook · 15/09/2021 23:18

I don't feel I've got any additional helpful advice, as the others have already nailed it, including with the Lundy Bancroft book recommendation (changed my life!) and the LTBs.

But just to add that I left a relationship that was emotionally abusive - quite similar to how you've briefly described. It's sometimes hard to see the abuse clearly when you're at the eye of the storm (as it becomes your norm and also you're influenced by the abuser's narrative), but it sucks your energy away until you're a shell/shadow of your former self. It's amazing how much better, nicer, happier, easier and more enjoyable my life is now.

Wishing you the best of luck - and do keep posting here (as well as reaching out to people IRL) Thanks

lemonadecar · 16/09/2021 20:07

Thank you very much for this generous post @blueflowersgreenbook
I can see that my husband is very unkind and I do not love him any more, and haven't for quite a while. But I do not know how to begin thinking myself out of the huge web of papering-it-over that I have done. I have literally met friends with dark glasses on to hide how much I've been crying and claimed life is going ok. I've lied to my parents that we had a good journey when my husband has been screaming the whole of the car journey there. I don't know why I did it. I'm finding it very hard to walk back from. My own behaviour has kind of cemented us in.

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lemonadecar · 16/09/2021 20:08

I also am so lonely and so empty I can see that the advice to get sensibly divorced is great but I am also very much crumbling into everyone mostly female friends but also my male friend when they show me love and kindness.

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blueflowersgreenbook · 16/09/2021 21:17

Let yourself crumble into your (female) friends and family!

I likewise kept a stiff upper lip and tried to paper things over and keep going, for years. But when I eventually went to my friends and family for support and told them what things were really like, they were amazing and helped me enormously (both emotionally and practically).

Rip off the paper! I know what you mean about your (my!) behaviour cementing you in, but that only lasts for as long as you keep papering/cementing! Once you make that very brave first move to talk to people (which you've already started), things start moving in the right direction.

You sound strong - much stronger than you probably realise Flowers

lemonadecar · 16/09/2021 21:24

thank you. What's life like on the other side?

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blueflowersgreenbook · 16/09/2021 22:38

Well we still need to co-parent so it's not 100% heavenly every minute - but my gosh it is pretty frickin' wonderful compared with my old life - a bit like moving from a prison/sweatshop to a country spa! And I can very much limit the amount of aggro he gives me, by just ignoring his messages. The freedom is joyous, and not having to spend my days walking on eggshells and being shouted at / dragged down constantly. I can be myself, and be happy. I'd highly recommend it!

daysatthecircus · 12/11/2021 16:35

Did you leave this relationship, OP?

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