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He's sneaking us into each others lives

287 replies

MissingOrange · 09/09/2021 16:57

My DP has a teenage DD who is always polite and civil but also very much Team Mum on everything which is fine, it just means there's a bit of distance. And her DM has no interest in me, which is good, why would she have? They split up years before I came along.

He has this thing about wanting us all to be close. We were having a nice evening in a pub garden in the country and he mentioned more than once that it would be nice if all four of us could be there together and wishing his ex and I could be confidants.

That wouldn't be too annoying by itself, but he tries to sneak us into each others lives. In my teens I was a singer and I used a stage name, one I've never heard since. I found out that his DD's GCSE artwork features my stage name. Her work was based around making album covers for a fictional popstar and he must have suggested that name. She would not have used it if she'd known the context. She'll be a bit weirded out if she ever sees my memorabilia from then.

Another time he came home with a few tops and said he'd seen them in a secondhand boutique and thought they'd suit me. I was touched by the gesture until his DD saw me in one of them and I could tell right away from her expression that I was wearing her clothing. He said she wanted him to take it to a charity shop so it was fine...

He agreed to check in and feed his wife's dog while she and his DD were away. I came along once because he drove there without mentioning it after we went shopping, and he was very keen to have sex on their sofa. I refused and he sulked.

I feel like saying that he needs to respect everyone's boundaries, stop involving us in each others lives by stealth, we're never going to be one happy family - especially with these stunts he keeps pulling.

I would like to hear opinions on this because I'm not sure whether it's as serious as I'm making it in my head.

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DressBitch · 09/09/2021 17:31

A guess one saving grace was he wanted to do it on her sofa and not in her bed...

NotaCoolMum · 09/09/2021 17:32

The Creep Meter is pinging at Maximum on this guy. He sounds weird as hell.

GertietheGherkin · 09/09/2021 17:33

This is just beyond bizarre. There's being tight-fisted with money, and then there's downright batshit crazy.

If he and his wife split ages ago, why is he wanting you to be her confidant? Then wanting to have sex with you on her sofa? Dear God, that's just beyond words.

Giving you his daughters tops is beyond strange, as is him disclosing your name from your background as a singer.

You need to get away from all of this, he's unstable. Don't be talked around or give in to him trying to justify his behaviour. Theses no justification for anything he's done.

MissingOrange · 09/09/2021 17:34

CherryDocsInYrBalls I looked up triangulation. This resonates

"People who have narcissistic personality disorder frequently use triangulation to enhance their feelings of superiority, raise their self-esteem, devalue other people, and keep potential competitors off-balance"

And yeah, the stuff with his DD... I don't know but he used to complain that his girlfriend before me would taunt him with incest jokes, like "You sleep with your wife then you jump into bed with your DD". I felt uncomfortable hearing it, but I wonder if she was picking up on something? Not that I'm saying there is anything incestuous going on, I'm sure that's not the case. His DD is definitely comfortable around him.

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CoastalMum101 · 09/09/2021 17:34

His poor dd, I can’t imagine how weird it must have been to see her dad’s girlfriend wearing her clothes that she’d asked her dad to take to a charity shop. Did you not call him out on lying about where he’d got them at least? I can just about understand him being cheap enough to ask you if you’d want them before binning them but lying about it is just odd.

As for trying to get you to shag him at his ex’s house - run. That is so incredibly inappropriate when his ex probably thinks they have a relatively normal relationship and trusts him enough to let him into her home without her there.

FelicityPike · 09/09/2021 17:35

Creepy as fuck.

RuthTopp · 09/09/2021 17:37

I think given the cancer he would like you , him and ex in the same bed as well ! Confused

MayorGoodwaysChicken · 09/09/2021 17:38

He sounds a quite scary level of weird. It’s concerning that you needed to question if this was ok or normal and that his behaviour hasn’t had you running for the hills long since. Ditch him and then think hard about that.

What on earth kind of perverted messed up weirdo tries to make his girlfriend have sex on his exes sofa? That would be vile behaviour if it was just a mate’s house but his ex….utterly disgusting.

RuthTopp · 09/09/2021 17:38

Well that predictive text went well ! Apologies not cancer but chance !

MissingOrange · 09/09/2021 17:38

Anyway, thank you for this. I didn't want to discuss it in "real life" in case I looked unhinged. It's good to see that his behaviour is definitely not right. It helped me make my mind up.

(I feel I should re-iterate again after my last comment that his teenage DD is absolutely fine, I admire her confidence actually, though it is possible her DF has some questionable/worrying stuff tucked away in his head.)

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Ifyoudontlikeitdosomethingelse · 09/09/2021 17:41

@MissingOrange

CherryDocsInYrBalls I looked up triangulation. This resonates

"People who have narcissistic personality disorder frequently use triangulation to enhance their feelings of superiority, raise their self-esteem, devalue other people, and keep potential competitors off-balance"

And yeah, the stuff with his DD... I don't know but he used to complain that his girlfriend before me would taunt him with incest jokes, like "You sleep with your wife then you jump into bed with your DD". I felt uncomfortable hearing it, but I wonder if she was picking up on something? Not that I'm saying there is anything incestuous going on, I'm sure that's not the case. His DD is definitely comfortable around him.

More like he's made that up to look more attractive. He's a fucking idiot.
GoogleWhacked · 09/09/2021 17:41

That's just all to weird for me, I'd be gone!

HollowTalk · 09/09/2021 17:42

@over2021

Er, very rarely is this my only advice but seriously, RUN.
It's my usual advice!
Hattie765 · 09/09/2021 17:43

This is just too wierd! How long have you been together, I'd be rethinking this one!

HollowTalk · 09/09/2021 17:44

I'd definitely tell her about your stage name, too.

Plumtree391 · 09/09/2021 17:45

Weird or what?

MissingOrange · 09/09/2021 17:46

More like he's made that up to look more attractive.

Well if that' what it was it didn't work... but this "enhance their feelings of superiority, devalue other people" is him to a T. I think all this stuff might be to devalue us, makes us seem interchangeable.

It hardly matters at this point but a few of my hardbacks went missing and I won't be surprised at all if he's given them to his ex and his DD as presents.

Anyway, I'm 100% done.

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beastlyslumber · 09/09/2021 17:49

And yeah, the stuff with his DD... I don't know but he used to complain that his girlfriend before me would taunt him with incest jokes, like "You sleep with your wife then you jump into bed with your DD". I felt uncomfortable hearing it

This is him telling you he has predatory and abusive feelings/intentions (possibly behaviour) towards his daughter. People like this will put the words in someone else's mouths but they are really telling you the truth. You felt uncomfortable hearing it because it's a massive, massive red flag.

Think as well how upsetting it must be for his daughter to see her father's gf wearing her clothes - she must have been very creeped out and upset. Poor girl.

Run away and don't look back, OP!

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 09/09/2021 17:50

He's a weirdo, getting you to wear his DDs top and wanting sex on his ex wife's sofa

Sorry, OP, this really is true. Wanting to be “one big happy family” could be harmless though totally unrealistic. But he’s gone way beyond that. Creepy. And no idea about respect for other people or their boundaries.

ThreeLittleDots · 09/09/2021 17:50

I think that's the right decision OP. Trust your gut - though why any right thinking person would want his girlfriend to wear his daughter's clothes and fuck on her sofa is beyond me. Add in his (telling you but not telling you) mention of incest and a world of NO!

godmum56 · 09/09/2021 17:50

looked at from the outside, he seems to be conflating all the women in his life into one woman....one he wants to have sex with

EmbarrassingMama · 09/09/2021 17:50

I still don't know if the clothes were the Ex wife's or the DD's. I thought the former was creepy AF but if it's the latter that's even more insane.

Run for the hills!

Hoppinggreen · 09/09/2021 17:51

He is a complete freak
Leg it fast

impossible · 09/09/2021 17:52

Good luck with all this. I completely agree you need to get out of this relationship.

It's interesting - and completely understandable - that it takes a bit of perspective from people on here for you to see how wrong his behaviour is. It's hard to be objective when you're in the thick of it.

TatianaBis · 09/09/2021 17:53

What a strange little man. Don't waste a year on someone like this next time.