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He's sneaking us into each others lives

287 replies

MissingOrange · 09/09/2021 16:57

My DP has a teenage DD who is always polite and civil but also very much Team Mum on everything which is fine, it just means there's a bit of distance. And her DM has no interest in me, which is good, why would she have? They split up years before I came along.

He has this thing about wanting us all to be close. We were having a nice evening in a pub garden in the country and he mentioned more than once that it would be nice if all four of us could be there together and wishing his ex and I could be confidants.

That wouldn't be too annoying by itself, but he tries to sneak us into each others lives. In my teens I was a singer and I used a stage name, one I've never heard since. I found out that his DD's GCSE artwork features my stage name. Her work was based around making album covers for a fictional popstar and he must have suggested that name. She would not have used it if she'd known the context. She'll be a bit weirded out if she ever sees my memorabilia from then.

Another time he came home with a few tops and said he'd seen them in a secondhand boutique and thought they'd suit me. I was touched by the gesture until his DD saw me in one of them and I could tell right away from her expression that I was wearing her clothing. He said she wanted him to take it to a charity shop so it was fine...

He agreed to check in and feed his wife's dog while she and his DD were away. I came along once because he drove there without mentioning it after we went shopping, and he was very keen to have sex on their sofa. I refused and he sulked.

I feel like saying that he needs to respect everyone's boundaries, stop involving us in each others lives by stealth, we're never going to be one happy family - especially with these stunts he keeps pulling.

I would like to hear opinions on this because I'm not sure whether it's as serious as I'm making it in my head.

OP posts:
IdblowJonSnow · 09/09/2021 18:47

The clothes thing is way creepier than the sofa thing.

Hopefully you've kicked his weird arse into next week by now.

MissingOrange · 09/09/2021 18:47

I think maybe some time to be single and recalibrate / work on your own stuff before dating again might be a good shout.

I'm not a complete hopeless case though I can see why you might think so. My own DC barely know him, they've only seen him at the door. I didn't want him involved with them. It's not going to be hard to split up. And I will be happy to be single for a good long while!

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Topsyturvyloo · 09/09/2021 18:47

If this is real and your experience. It’s weird . I would not maintain this type of narrative with someone.

This has given me enough of the ick to say run lady.

If you challenge him I can imagine he would be aghast - clueless - horrified - prep for that - don’t get sucked back in .

This some icky biz in his head ….

TatianaBis · 09/09/2021 18:47

He is very good at gaslighting and I'm going to have to prepare myself for that.

No you don’t, you just have to end it and never speak to him again.

Greenmarmalade · 09/09/2021 18:47

I’m very VERY relieved you’re breaking up. You don’t need to be careful about his gaslighting any more- just block him on everything. Get a ring doorbell. Get him out of your life.

SleepingBunnies21 · 09/09/2021 18:48

he was very keen to have sex on their sofa

He's a twisted weirdo.

Alcemeg · 09/09/2021 18:49

Oh gosh OP that sounds absolutely nuts!!! Good for you, deciding you've had enough.

He's treating you all like objects, puppets he can toy with to suit himself.

Laiste · 09/09/2021 18:50

Is she safe from him OP do you think? The DD?

HermioneKipper · 09/09/2021 18:51

The bit about the daughters clothes and sex on the sofa is making me say RUN. He sounds very weird

MissingOrange · 09/09/2021 18:51

If she's such a psycho why does he want the two of you to be "confidants"?

His last GF is the "psycho", (and there was another psycho before her), his wife was the amicable split. He said we were his two angels, and two devils. What a tosser.

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lottiegarbanzo · 09/09/2021 18:51

I'd sort of want to ask him whether he was planning to slice and stitch the three of you into one 'perfect woman', or keep the three of you captive but identical together.

HermioneKipper · 09/09/2021 18:52

Oh sorry OP, I missed the bit where it said you were splitting

lyntheyresexpeople · 09/09/2021 18:52

Wanting you to dress like his daughter is one of the creepiest things I've ever heard in my life -
Let alone wanting to have sex on their sofa.
Seriously run.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 09/09/2021 18:53

@MissingOrange

I think maybe some time to be single and recalibrate / work on your own stuff before dating again might be a good shout.

I'm not a complete hopeless case though I can see why you might think so. My own DC barely know him, they've only seen him at the door. I didn't want him involved with them. It's not going to be hard to split up. And I will be happy to be single for a good long while!

I didn't say or think you're a hopeless case, just that your radar went off and you didn't react in a healthy way - you stayed instead of running. It's something you need to address in yourself especially as you have kids so your decisions affect them, that's all. He sounds like an absolute weirdo at best and a manipulative predator at worst. Bleurgh. Thank god you're out of it - have you told him now that you won't be seeing him anymore?
SchadenfreudePersonified · 09/09/2021 18:56

@over2021

Er, very rarely is this my only advice but seriously, RUN.
Like the wind!
Thatsjustwhatithink · 09/09/2021 18:56

Yuk. Yuk. Yuk.

This guy actually sounds unhinged. Leave. Quickly.

TokyoSushi · 09/09/2021 18:57

Its another big no from me!

MissingOrange · 09/09/2021 18:57

Is she safe from him OP do you think? The DD?

Genuinely yes. I know this all sounds and probably is weird but I don't think it's on her radar. She's in her late teens, and occupied with her own life. I think she sees her DF as being there just to dispense money. And me as the sadcase who steals her charity shop donations.

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ScrumptiousBears · 09/09/2021 18:57

Having read this thread I remember my dad did this to me with his OW who he eventually left my mum for and married her. At one point we drove the same car, make model and colour. He tried to merge us as well. I just thought he was an unimaginative dick and thought nothing more of it.

MrMeSeeks · 09/09/2021 18:58

You’re making the right decision.
You and his ex are better off!
Feel sorry for hiss dd though Sad

Greenmarmalade · 09/09/2021 18:58

@MissingOrange well that’s gross.

I look back at some things I put up with with several exes and I have no idea wtf I was thinking. I had no boundaries, no idea what was reasonable. Worth a conversation with a trained counsellor- it helped me.

atalossaboutwhattodo · 09/09/2021 18:58

As pp said, Norman Bates.

Closetbeanmuncher · 09/09/2021 18:59

I came along once because he drove there without mentioning it after we went shopping, and he was very keen to have sex on their sofa. I refused and he sulked

Your DP is a fucking weirdo and I would seriously run for the hills.

He sounds like he wants some sort of lommunesque love triangle set up.

This is red flag bunting if ever I saw it

Closetbeanmuncher · 09/09/2021 18:59

*communesque

Aquamarine1029 · 09/09/2021 19:01

I'm absolutely astounded you've been with this utter freak for this long. Why??