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He's sneaking us into each others lives

287 replies

MissingOrange · 09/09/2021 16:57

My DP has a teenage DD who is always polite and civil but also very much Team Mum on everything which is fine, it just means there's a bit of distance. And her DM has no interest in me, which is good, why would she have? They split up years before I came along.

He has this thing about wanting us all to be close. We were having a nice evening in a pub garden in the country and he mentioned more than once that it would be nice if all four of us could be there together and wishing his ex and I could be confidants.

That wouldn't be too annoying by itself, but he tries to sneak us into each others lives. In my teens I was a singer and I used a stage name, one I've never heard since. I found out that his DD's GCSE artwork features my stage name. Her work was based around making album covers for a fictional popstar and he must have suggested that name. She would not have used it if she'd known the context. She'll be a bit weirded out if she ever sees my memorabilia from then.

Another time he came home with a few tops and said he'd seen them in a secondhand boutique and thought they'd suit me. I was touched by the gesture until his DD saw me in one of them and I could tell right away from her expression that I was wearing her clothing. He said she wanted him to take it to a charity shop so it was fine...

He agreed to check in and feed his wife's dog while she and his DD were away. I came along once because he drove there without mentioning it after we went shopping, and he was very keen to have sex on their sofa. I refused and he sulked.

I feel like saying that he needs to respect everyone's boundaries, stop involving us in each others lives by stealth, we're never going to be one happy family - especially with these stunts he keeps pulling.

I would like to hear opinions on this because I'm not sure whether it's as serious as I'm making it in my head.

OP posts:
MarylinMonrue · 09/09/2021 21:12

Grey rock is a godsend

NettleTea · 09/09/2021 21:14

@GreyhoundG1rl

It just crossed my mind for the first time that maybe his DD doesn't like me because he overshares with her about me. I hope that isn't the case but I wouldn't put it past him. Surely you know whether he overshares or not? And surely she doesn't? This just gets weirder and weirder.
If he is anything like my ex, he does. It makes my 21 year old DD's skin crawl. And yet he is a total prude control freak about her boyfriend.
ChargingBuck · 09/09/2021 21:16

Yeah right.

This is either the plot for a new Netflix thriller, of you need to dump this loser's arse.

beastlyslumber · 09/09/2021 21:19

It just crossed my mind for the first time that maybe his DD doesn't like me because he overshares with her about me.

All you can know for sure is that he's highly inappropriate with his daughter, including transgressing sexual boundaries (like having sex in her house, getting his gf to wear her clothes). God knows what he's told her about you.

You'll be the crazy ex now, OP. The one who joked about his wanting to sleep with his daughter. Grey rock is your only defence.

sloutside · 09/09/2021 21:30

Fucking weird. The entire thing.

FlatteredFool · 09/09/2021 21:31

Christ. That's a whole new level of weird. I hope the dumping is drama free.

ChocAuVin · 09/09/2021 21:33
Hmm
MissingOrange · 09/09/2021 21:33

And yet he is a total prude control freak about her boyfriend.

That sounds familiar too. Do these men all roll off the same conveyor belt?

This is either the plot for a new Netflix thriller

My life is not that exciting Grin Yeah, he's dumped. He just won't know it till tomorrow.

OP posts:
RogueV · 09/09/2021 21:35

Weird!

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 09/09/2021 21:38

One small thing, apparently a throwaway point that no one else picked up on, is the point that jumps off the page at me.

He's actually quite an inadequate character, if anything I think he's slightly intimidated by both her and her mother.

Don't make the mistake of thinking this is a reason to relax your guard. I've been stalked twice - the first time left me in serious fear for my life - and attracted a good deal of abuse in early adulthood. And according to more than one reputable source, people who have been violently or sexually abused as children are much more likely to attract more of the same in adulthood. This is true no matter how much of an aura of confidence they project, as I know to my cost.

Two things stand out, and I hope they'll resonate either with OP or anyone who may be reading this thread and finds themselves in a similar position.

One: IME - and that's been much more extensive than I'd like - these miserable inadequetes, the sort women laugh at for being a bit pathetic, are often the most dangerous.

And Two: the daughter's apparent confident exterior means nothing.

ShadyAF · 09/09/2021 21:39

I'm honestly shocked at how many people are disbelieving of this type of behavior. I guess I'm glad they haven't come across this type of thing but surprised they don't know someone who has. In my friendship group there isn't one of us who doesn't have at least one relationship in our past that hasn't involved seriously creepy behaviour, gaslighting and worse.

It's sadly not that uncommon.

thequeenoftarts · 09/09/2021 21:53

Could you say you have met someone else? Yes you will be a bitch but he might stop contacting you then

LoooooooongCovid · 09/09/2021 21:57

Wow what a weird character!!

Tiramiwho · 09/09/2021 22:02

Did he alsowant you to have sex on his ex's Sofa wearing via Daughter's clothes? Jesus H Christ.

whatausername · 09/09/2021 22:06

@thequeenoftarts

Could you say you have met someone else? Yes you will be a bitch but he might stop contacting you then
That is horrendous advice!
  1. Why provoke someone who is, frankly, nuts?
  2. OP is capable of making her own decisions, standing by them and laying boundaries without resorting to a fake man to intimidate/put off an ex.
AryaStarkWolf · 09/09/2021 22:14

Weird, weird, weird

TherebytheGraceofGodgoI · 09/09/2021 23:02

This is so disturbing.
I know of a case where a father got off by cutting out his daughter’s head from photos and sticking them over the heads of the women in porn magazines.
No one in the family knew anything was wrong until he was investigated for another matter and these magazines were discovered.
Your boyfriend has put his daughter’s clothes onto you and tried to have sex with you on their sofa. Sounds similar and I would have serious concerns about his intentions towards his daughter.

QueenBee52 · 09/09/2021 23:13

Totally off topic @MissingOrange

but....

Were you a good Singer.. 🎶🎵🎼

Would we remember you 😊

flowersmakeitbetter · 09/09/2021 23:34

I'm glad to hear you've made a decision.

A good benchmark for relationships is to ask yourself, "Would I do that or say that?". "Would I take DS' charity clothes and give them to Fred as a present and tell them I'd bought them?". "Would I suggest sex on XH's sofa while we're at his house feeding the dog?" No......... I'm fairly certain you wouldn't because it's not bloody normal!!!

NewlyGranny · 09/09/2021 23:49

He may indeed want tens of hours of debrief, but he isn't entitled to have them with you. It takes two to decide to continue a relationship but only one to end it. Over is when either of you says it is.

Have a plan to be somewhere else within five minutes of telling him, and stick to it.

GreyhoundG1rl · 10/09/2021 00:04

Have a plan to be somewhere else within five minutes of telling him, and stick to it.
I'd also do it in a public place, if I were you... There might be less of a drama with other people watching.

StarCourt · 10/09/2021 01:16

Op you are going to have to have very firm boundaries in place to get rid of this one

thenewduchessofhastings · 10/09/2021 01:28

Bin him off otherwise before you know it he'll be asking you to join him and his ex in a threesome in their old bed with you wearing her underwear (this is said tongue in cheek) but seriously though;chuck this one back in the sea.

Tallisimo · 10/09/2021 02:34

So glad you are giving him the elbow. The ‘it’s not working’ line is fine. Don’t exempted to elaborate or embroider. It’s not working, I don’t want to see you any more, please don’t contact meany more. And repeat.

Don’t be drawn into any discussion or debate. He wants 1000 post mortem talks on why? Tough. You don’t talk to him, meet him, let in your home, or stay friends.

He doesn’t get to set or control the agenda, you do.

Guiltypleasures001 · 10/09/2021 02:34

Wonder if he wanted you to dress up to look like his daughter
Hope you weren't wearing it when he suggested sex on the ex settee