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Unhappy marriage know I need to get out but how do I cope for now?

29 replies

Anotherboy · 27/08/2021 17:53

Please bear with me, this is likely to be a long one!

I've been married for 6 years, have two beautiful young sons, and know the stress that children can put on a marriage.

Husband has always been a bit moody, but pre kids it was easy to keep our distance until he'd sorted himself out. Since the boys have come along his moods have gotten worse, noticeably so when I've been pregnant. He'll give dark moody looks, take himself off for days at a time, be generally rude and hostile. The frequency of this has increased over the years. He does no housework at all (gradually less and less), the only child related stuff he does is night shifts with the youngest because I have PND and frequent waking gives me insomnia and I go downhill very quickly. This is his only saving grace, and the main thing keeping me with him at the moment.

The rest of our existence is pretty miserable. He came on holiday with us this week, and was so rude and miserable for the entire trip, to me, the kids and a friend I met there. For example, rather than come on a trip to an amazing aquarium, he waited at the train station alone for 3 hours because he insisted I needed help getting back to the hotel with the kids. He wouldn't engage with my friend, instead giving sarcastic answers any time she tried to engage with him.

We've had ss involved this year as he lost it and held my sons feet down in the bath when he wouldn't stop splashing and really hurt him, and shoved a door into him. I made him tell the Dr when he called for a med review (he's had meds and a counsellor for depression for a couple of years but it doesn't seem to help). We've been dismissed and to be honest it doesn't seem like anyone cares about the situation too much.

I'm in touch with RISE (dom abuse service) and due to talk to them soon for support. Upon explaining the situation they said I'd come through to the right service, which was a relief and also very sad. Everything seems so borderline I find it hard to call this real domestic abuse, but it is pretty miserable none the less. Just now I feel trapped, as my job is only good for another year, then I may be unemployed, so moving out feels like a very shaky option. We have a lovely house and I know material good aren't everything but I want a good place for my kids if that makes sense. Also I worked damn hard to pay the majority of the deposit!

I don't want my kids growing up like this, I don't want them to model his behaviour. I'm so sad and angry and feel helpless. I think I need to formate a longer term exit strategy. Mental illness can only excuse so much, the rest is his shitty attitude and behaviour.

I know I'm not the only one in this kind of situation. How do I cope in the short term? I know things won't improve. I've tried everything from my point of view, completely supportive to very angry to dissociative etc etc, nothing changes it. I think my good friends must be sick of hearing about it. If course he's being a no husband tonight after I've become very distant after the holiday. That was the absolute worst I've seen him in a while, and I'm sure in part it was fuelled by him seeing me having a good time with my friend. He's always shitty the next day or two if I go out in an evening (very rare) or away for the weekend. I don't know what I want from posting this, other that to perhaps know I'm not alone and that things can get better in the future.

Thanks for reading

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TeeBee · 27/08/2021 17:59

Things will only get better when you leave him. This is a disgusting environment to bring up children; they'll be scarred for life. Get them out.

Treesinthewind · 27/08/2021 19:57

You're doing the right thing speaking to RISE. He is being abusive. The silent treatment is absolutely horrible to live with- I really feel for you. I know the idea of giving up the security you currently have must be terrifying, but you will find strength you didn't know you had.

Anotherboy · 28/08/2021 07:03

Thanks for your replies. I know we need to leave, it's just figuring out the practicalities, which are far from trivial. At this point I don't see how people do it, and how they cope whilst stuck in such a situation.

I hope so @Treesinthewind , for the sake of my boys.

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Teacupsandtoast · 28/08/2021 07:40

Oh you poor thing, how awful. To quote a mn classic, get your ducks in a row. Start siphoning off money, collect paperwork and passports, and get out of the house before he knows whats happening....the bath incident is a massive red flag and if he thinks he's losing his grip on you, he will very quickly escalate

category12 · 28/08/2021 07:57

Why would you be the one to leave the home? It makes more sense for him to leave. With domestic abuse, you may be able to get an occupation order for the house and a non-molestation order to keep him out.

If your job is going to end in a year, you really need to be proactively applying for other work now, not waiting. If/when you get something, you resign.

Anotherboy · 28/08/2021 08:28

He won't leave and proving domestic abuse is hard. Occupation orders and non molestation orders would be great if you can get them.

I have an application in for more work at my current place, but I have to go back for at least 3 months once my maternity leave ends in December. I'll feel more secure leaving once I know I have more work, but then is that just another excuse?

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Anotherboy · 28/08/2021 08:28

If I can get them that should have said

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category12 · 28/08/2021 08:50

But why have your eggs in that one basket? I don't think it makes sense to stay because you may be out of work in 12 months, when instead you could be applying for other work.

And if it's the sort of place where you apply for more work after set periods, then presumably that would only kick the can along another 12 months period, or whatever? So even if you get extended, you'd then be thinking, "but I may be out of work in 12 months" again?

Anotherboy · 28/08/2021 09:02

This is very true, I've gone from contract to contract for the last 15 years so it's a never ending situation! I have to stay until April next year, or they'll take back maternity pay, so yes, I should look for other options in the coming months. It can't hurt.

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Anotherboy · 28/08/2021 09:05

For the next few months I'll have zero money coming in as it's the end of my maternity pay, so me and the kids are completely financially dependent on husband. I'm desperate to get out but it seems like right now would be the hardest time to do it.

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category12 · 28/08/2021 09:12

Unless you cut short maternity and go back?

category12 · 28/08/2021 09:17

Problem with being completely financially dependent on him, is that he will be very complacent that you won't leave whatever he does.

Anotherboy · 28/08/2021 09:23

This is true. He also wants another baby and I'm beginning to see how this another way of keeping me trapped.

Thanks for your comments, it's helping me to see that perhaps I'm not as helpless as I feel.

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category12 · 28/08/2021 09:30

Oh god. Make sure you're the one in control of contraception.

brittleheadgirl · 28/08/2021 09:35

He sounds at best unpleasant, at worst, dangerous SadThe situation that arose during bath time sounds particularly horrific.
Please forget the house, material possessions etc they can all be replaced eventually but you'll never repair the mental damage he is inflicting on your dc everyday.

I'd max out credit cards, borrow from the bank etc to get myself out and into a small rental somewhere away from him.
Do you have family or friends that will help you leave practically and be there to support you & your dc once you have?

JessMac · 28/08/2021 09:59

I felt like this is a previous relationship - you are not alone!

My whole life was built around my ex-partner - my car was in his name, the house and finances were all held jointly and our whole social life was intertwined. I was in a secure job but didn’t make enough money to buy him out or leave on a whim. I also didn’t have kids so I did only have myself to worry about so aware that makes what you are going through more complex!

I felt like if I left I would loose everything I had built and a huge part of my life would be wasted. But then a colleague who had gone through similar (again someone else - you are not alone!) gave me the best advice!

You cannot live your life in fear of what you are going to lose by leaving because you don’t truly have it now, in fact the longer

JessMac · 28/08/2021 10:02

you stay the longer you are losing out on what you could have in the future.

It sounds like you have made up your mind that you are going - great! That’s the first and biggest step!

Work on making yourself independent - keep asking for support, there are so many people and agencies around you who will help. And most importantly remember you are not alone and it will get better, life moves on, you just got to think about the future and not worry about what you might be leaving behind.

category12 · 28/08/2021 10:11

You cannot live your life in fear of what you are going to lose by leaving because you don’t truly have it now, in fact the longer you stay the longer you are losing out on what you could have in the future.

I like that. Well put.

Treesinthewind · 28/08/2021 10:17

Can you use the bath incident as proof of abuse?

RandomMess · 28/08/2021 10:38

Return to work early?? Means you've paid back your maternity pay sooner and can start looking for a new permanent role.

You can your H it will help with your PND and entitle you for mat leave (despite not having a baby) sooner if he's difficult about.

Ensure you have rock solid contraception.

MrsBobDylan · 28/08/2021 11:36

Your comment about paying 'nearly all the house deposit' is making me think you are not on the house deeds or mortgage? It is a classic, abusive man tactic to keep you trapped.

Whatever you want for yourself should be secondary to what you want for your kids. He has physically harmed your son and it is up to you to protect your kids. If you don't, no one else can.

RandomMess · 28/08/2021 11:38

Good news though that you are married as the house is a marital asset regardless of whether your name is on the deeds or not. Once you split you register your interest in the home so it can't be sold without your consent.

You need a shit hit lawyer and fast and to plan your way out of this.

Please go back to work ASAP before the abuse ramps up more.

Anotherboy · 28/08/2021 19:18

We equally own the house, so that's something. And I agree that the longer I left the more future good times I'm wasting.

I told him, via message as me and the kids were out today, that I wasn't angry but that I was done with it all. This was his reply, which now makes me feel like I'm the unreasonable one, willing to give up the family despite him trying really hard:

"* I have, despite depression and anxiety, kept up helping you when we were away, and when we came home, and anytime you've asked

  • I've been trying to accommodate what you want, as much as I can, supporting you and the family
  • I've assisted, helped out, paid, sworn, bled, and sweated to make this work.
  • I have what appears to be depressions, anxiety, and possibly other head gremlins that make life hard and, yes, cause me to sometimes be rude and unreasonable. And also to fail to take care of myself properly.
  • I'm on fuckloads of meds for that, and counseling, and have been for some time
  • My nights are spent making sure dc is ok, days are spent working so we have money, any the left over is at disposal for helping out with this or that, I have very little time I'm not actively supporting the family.

And I will continue to support this family as best I can."

So I now, once again, feel like I'm the unreasonable one, and like I'm going a bit crazy :/

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CloseYourEyesAndSee · 28/08/2021 19:26

You don't need his permission to end the marriage. If you are working with rise you can get them to write you a letter to access legal aid and they can help you apply for an occupation order. Can you buy him out on your current contract?

RandomMess · 28/08/2021 19:28

Regardless of that text he is continuing to be abusive towards you and the DC, it's okay to acknowledge he is trying but his current best is not enough for you to remain in the marriage.