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Is this common re a Dad's role?

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FiJay18 · 04/08/2021 20:10

This is something that has been bothering me for a while now, but it is now increasingly bugging me and I need some advice.

My DH ever since I had my children hasn't really been interested in them really. Even as babies when I had looked after them all day, he showed no interest in coming in and bathing them etc which upset me at the time. He said I was over reacting. When I've brought this up recently I told him that really it's general advice that when DH comes home he takes the children for a bit to give Mum a bit of a break, he said I was stupid and that it wasn't advice, or it was, it was off one of these 'gentle parenting' things which he disapproves of.

To cut a long story short I always feel it's a massive effort for him to do much with them. He will sit and play on computer games with my eldest (5), and just palms them off the rest of the time. I have told him loads to do other things with him but he doesn't without me literally 'forcing' him.

This stresses me out because I just feel like everything like that is falling to me. I think I'm good with the kids but become increasingly frustrated by his lack of initiative/ pro activeness in doing stuff with them and recognising I need a break. I feel like I need to be at breaking point for him to notice (because sometimes I can feel overwhelmed by it). At that point he will say I am overreacting and that I don't seem to like spending time with my children. I really do, however sometimes when they have been fighting all day etc I do find it difficult and don't particularity find those days thrilling and need some support.

Further, my children are now 5 and 3 and at no point ever has he offered to do anything with them on his own. He may have had them twice or three times for the whole day on his own when I've actually went out to do something. He will never say 'I'll take the kids here or there' not even one of them really. Again if I ask him to it feels like I'm asking him to go and climb Mount Everest or something.

In respect of our lives he keeps everything separate. It seems that his money is 'his' and nothing is shared. He keeps going on about his plans and doesn't really involve me because he assumes he is the one which will have the money and doesn't seem to value what I do in terms of childcare and that I have taken a dramatic drop in salary to look after them. He says that he does recognise this but his actions say otherwise to me. He will go on about home improvements and how much they cost etc when he knows I only earn around £1000 per month and can't contribute.

We were away with his brother and wife at the weekend and even just seeing them help each other with the dishwasher made by blood boil as my partner wouldn't do that. He actively avoids it. He does tidy somethings round the house, but that's just because he himself cannot abide 'mess' as it bothers him but even then he will just shove stuff in cupboard and boxes without organising anything. he even keeps his phone well away from me and keeps changing the pin. I have only ever accessed it once because he left after an argument once and I just knew he was lying as to where he had been. When I did look through his phone he has been out with his friend and got totally wasted (fine up to him) but had been looking at various women he knew on Facebook which I found odd. When I questioned him on this he told me 1) it was his friend who had his phone then 2) they were just talking about them generally and it was none of my business what about so his story conflicted there.

Am I being harsh here or have I got a right to be upset? I just find myself getting more cross with him. It used to upset me because I wanted him to seem like he cared but now I'm just close to losing my temper about it all and saying I want to leave him. If I say anything however he generally says I'm overreacting and walks out. I just feel it comes down to me all the time i.e taking time off for the kids in the summer holidays, arranging pick ups / drop offs etc and he is only ever interested in his business & money.

Sorry for the rant but these are the main things bothering me and I wanted to gage other's opinions.

OP posts:
BeachDrifting · 16/09/2021 04:41

I wouldn’t put up with this and my suspicion is that he’s messing around. The ex girlfriend isn’t really ex at all. He treats you so badly that there must be someone else. Get out for your own sanity

GrandmasCat · 16/09/2021 04:43

Here, go to Entitledto.org.uk (or co.uk) and calculate how better off you would be on your own.

You might realise after you split that raising the kids on your own is a breeze and that was getting you so exhausted was not the kids but trying to get their dad to get involved/share the housechores. You might also realise he was the one doing most of the mess and needing more care than the children.

Lessthanaballpark · 16/09/2021 04:48

OP once you have gone through the turmoil of initial change, being a single mum will be so much easier than what you’re putting up with now.

Unsure1983 · 16/09/2021 04:50

You have absorbed too much pain. This is so beyond unacceptable how he behaves. Time for anger, whether you stay together or split up.

mamas12 · 16/09/2021 04:51

Very sorry to tell you that he is gaslighting you
Making you think that
‘Everything is your fault’ Is classic and making you doubt yourself and telling you that you have the problem is classic
Please look into separating because it will only get worse
Get someone you can talk to and look after yourself and make plans
Good luck it’ll be tough but with help you can do it

TheBurmundseyIndustrialEstate · 16/09/2021 06:52

He’s gaslighting you about the ex.
It sounds as though they re-connected during your pregnancy and are having some sort of relationship..
He seems to be living a single man’s life, he is not worth the effort.

Triffiddealer · 16/09/2021 07:28

So - to clarify:

  • you have separate lives (not in a good way)
  • he lies to you and keeps secrets from you
  • he does not support you emotionally, practically or financially (unless nagged to do so and then only grudgingly)
  • he is mean with his money (you used only YOUR savings to survive on ML with HIS child!!!)
  • he is disrespectful to you
  • he is critical and makes you feel bad a lot of the time
  • he does not appreciate anything you do in the house or with the children

I really hope he’s an amazing, subtle yet surprising lover (somehow doubt that too)

How much more of your life do you want to spend like this? I know it’s hard when you have kids. It took me a long time to leave my marriage, I wish I’d done it earlier. In my experience what helped was to detach emotionally - GreyRock - I stopped engaging, explaining or exploring . I realised it only got thrown back at me and was utterly futile.

This man is the father of your children who happens to live in your house. Build up your support network (friends, Childminder, hobbies, other Mums) talk to a lawyer, get plans in place - I promise it will get easier once you can picture that whatever the future it can only be better than this.

PerseverancePays · 16/09/2021 08:07

You don’t need to put up with this, you really don’t. Yes it’s lonely being on your own but it not as awful as being lonely when you’re with someone. And the best part of being separated is that you get a break when the children visit him even though he couldn’t ever manage it when he lived with them!
You will be much happier without his negative energy in the house and so will the children. Don’t give yourself a hard time about being a single parent, it’s better to be a happy single parent home than a miserable couple. Truly , it is.

Themadcatparade · 16/09/2021 09:04

You and your children deserve SO much more.

But only you can give yourself that. Not him. Your man will not change.

By staying with this waste, you are denying yourself a change to find someone awesome who will lift you up and make your life easier. I’m talking from experience here. Being a single mum was awesome. Being a single mum and then finding someone who amplified by life even more was even better. What do your children deserve? By being in his own he will have no choice but to step up and actually be a father to them, he will be forced to do that if he cares about them. By staying with him, he won’t. Why would he when he has you to do that for him?

You have a chance here to completely reform yourself and your children’s lives by leaving and finding an actual life.

Tallisimo · 16/09/2021 10:31

He has you exactly where he wants you. You do the grunt work, all the child work, the house work etc and he makes sure you know how grateful you should be. Even without the secrecy and lack of transparency, what you’ve described isn’t a healthy balanced relationship. I really don’t see why you would want to stay together- I want you to know you don’t deserve to be treated in this way.

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