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If your relationship was at the brink and survived, please tell me about it and what you did

27 replies

Justthisonce1 · 26/07/2021 16:17

Also, did you go to relationship counselling? If so, did it help?

OP posts:
Sideorderofchips · 26/07/2021 16:26

Depends what it's at the brink over?

Justthisonce1 · 26/07/2021 16:30

I guess that will be different for different people. Just want to hear from other's experiences, whatever the context for them.

OP posts:
OffCycling · 26/07/2021 22:46

Yes. Relationship counselling really helped us.

OffCycling · 26/07/2021 23:22

Hope you're okay OP.

IveNameChangedAgain2020 · 26/07/2021 23:58

Going grey rock and not acknowledging shit behaviour and carving out an independent life for myself, financially and socially. That showed I didn't NEED to be with him and the relationship became much healthier as a result.

MarkRuffaloCrumble · 27/07/2021 00:46

Relationship counselling made things worse for us. He just saw it as being ‘ganged up on’ when the counsellor said anything that aligned with me. I struggled when the counsellor blamed me for not reporting DV from a former partner to police. It showed a shocking lack of understanding about DV and women’s physical vulnerability at the hands of an angry man.

Unless it’s a very well recommended counsellor who has a lot of experience in the field of your particular issue, it may do more harm than good IMHO.

What worked for us to bring it back from over the brink was making a conscious decision that we both wanted to make it work, him being more communicative and me being more flexible.

We have both learned a lot from The Gottman Institute studies into the 4 Horsemen predicting divorce (criticism, contempt, defensiveness and stonewalling). Where those things are present they can predict the likelihood of divorce with great accuracy.

It’s worth reading a lot of their stuff, there are lots of articles and blogs quoting their research or you can go straight to their site to see it all in one place.

I’d also suggest reading about love languages - some people think it’s bollocks, but we found it useful as a starting point for understanding each other’s needs and why we sometimes miss the mark when we think we’re doing ok. DP is still rubbish at communicating at times and it’s the thing we argue about most often.

But even that has been a revelation - the idea that the Gottmans put forth that every couple, when they marry/get together, is choosing a particular set of unsolvable problems. You will have the same argument for the rest of your life together! The idea is to try and do it better than last time, to learn how to make it up and repair quickly and effectively so that you don’t stew about it.

Spartan20 · 27/07/2021 01:06

Hi I’m new on hear I’m a man not sure if any men are on here I need some prospective on a situation, I need some advice assistance about a situation I’m struggling with I’m not sure what to do and feeling down at the moment , how do I start a thread take it easy on me please

SheldonesqueTheBstard · 27/07/2021 01:40

Why do you want to know the experiences of others when you won’t share the details of your own?

Quid pro quo Clarice…

Spartan20 · 27/07/2021 01:44

I’m just asking how to start a thread for advice as I’m new on here , haven’t asked about experiences of anyone until then thanks

SheldonesqueTheBstard · 27/07/2021 01:48

Wind yourself in spartan

I wasn’t speaking to you thanks

Tara336 · 27/07/2021 01:55

Press start a thread at the top left corner of the page

GertietheGherkin · 27/07/2021 01:55

@SheldonesqueTheBstard

Wind yourself in spartan

I wasn’t speaking to you thanks

Did you mean to be do rude?

Obviously being new he wouldn't have known you weren't talking to him. You didn't indicate who your comment was in answer to. 🙄

GertietheGherkin · 27/07/2021 01:55

*so

GertietheGherkin · 27/07/2021 01:57

@Spartan20

I’m just asking how to start a thread for advice as I’m new on here , haven’t asked about experiences of anyone until then thanks
You uttered the 'M' word 😂

Strap yourself in, you're in for a bumpy ride.

Welcome to Mumsnet by the way 😃

SheldonesqueTheBstard · 27/07/2021 02:05

I was just replying in kind gertie

I respond to an OP.

If I then reply to another poster I will talk to them.

Given that the OP asked for experiences without sharing (despite being asked what they were in the brink on) and spartan did not, I’m not sure why they thought I addressed them.

If he’d have mentioned experiences in his post then I would understand confusion.

No need for the eye roll.

That I consider rude.

Spartan20 · 27/07/2021 02:10

Thanks I didn’t know who the comment was for I think I might be in for a bumpy ride 🙊👍

MarkRuffaloCrumble · 27/07/2021 02:53

@Spartan20 if you want more men’s opinions then this may not be the site for you! But you could try posting on the Dadsnet section to attract a bit more male attention - you’ll still get women answering if it shows up in the active threads list but at least you’ll get some dads replying too. Mumsnet can be hostile towards men as it’s the one place on the internet where women are a majority and are able to be outspoken so some of us take advantage of that luxury to the full by pulling no punches. But you’ll certainly get some different perspectives on your issue - good luck.

Spartan20 · 27/07/2021 02:56

[quote MarkRuffaloCrumble]@Spartan20 if you want more men’s opinions then this may not be the site for you! But you could try posting on the Dadsnet section to attract a bit more male attention - you’ll still get women answering if it shows up in the active threads list but at least you’ll get some dads replying too. Mumsnet can be hostile towards men as it’s the one place on the internet where women are a majority and are able to be outspoken so some of us take advantage of that luxury to the full by pulling no punches. But you’ll certainly get some different perspectives on your issue - good luck.[/quote]
Yes thanks I didn’t even realise about dadsnet however a different perspective would be good though thanks for advice

GertietheGherkin · 27/07/2021 03:06

@SheldonesqueTheBstard

I was just replying in kind gertie

I respond to an OP.

If I then reply to another poster I will talk to them.

Given that the OP asked for experiences without sharing (despite being asked what they were in the brink on) and spartan did not, I’m not sure why they thought I addressed them.

If he’d have mentioned experiences in his post then I would understand confusion.

No need for the eye roll.

That I consider rude.

Being new they probably wouldn't have been aware of any of that.

Your thanks in italics was just pitiful.

Bless you, sorry for your hurt damaged feelings from my eye roll. 🤭

SheldonesqueTheBstard · 27/07/2021 03:53

Being new does not take away from the fact that they assumed that I was talking about them and thereafter being snarky. If they read my post which made no actual reference to their post and took it to be about them, then that is on them gertie

Being new doesn’t stop them from being able to read.

My ‘thanks’ was pitiful? Look what they wrote. As I said, I responded in kind.

Bless you back. But don’t be a pot.

I haven’t got hurt feelings. So no cares there.

Sorry for touching your nerve though.

🧦 🧦

Twinkletwinklelittlecar · 27/07/2021 04:01

Anyway... OP if there is abuse then Counselling is not advised so your own situation could change things. Personally I wouldn't but it might have helped others.
I've been reading "The Book You Wish Your Parents Had Read" which has been insightful on the adult's relationship.

Sundancerintherain · 27/07/2021 13:34

No abuse. No infidelity. Just a shitty stressful few years affecting our relationship.
Split for a short while to consider what we both actually wanted.
Counselling.
Honesty.
Trust.
Was 10 years ago , still together and mainly happy now.

Justcallmebebes · 27/07/2021 14:13

What is going on today? So much snippiness and bitching

NeverRTFT · 27/07/2021 15:50

Relationship Counselling helps. But it's dependent on both sides being willing to accept their share of responsibility for the unhappiness (or whatever it is) of the present situation. If that makes sense. I guess I'm saying that everyone involved has to get over themselves a bit and not be defensive or blame each other, if you're going to get anything out of it.
And you have to be prepared to live with a bumpy ride. Get through each day / week one at a time. Helps if you have a shared vision of where you want to get to as a couple.
Only works if both are totally committed to the same outcome i.e. staying together.
If one of you is dragging the other along then counselling can't force them to engage or commit.
Individual counselling is also massively helpful regardless of what future you are working towards.
Best of luck OP.

Welcome to MN @Spartan20 !

NeverRTFT · 27/07/2021 15:54

Also honesty honesty and more honesty. Even when it's ugly, embarrassing or it hurts. Especially then. The difficult conversations are the only ones worth having when you're saving your relationship.
But learn to do this in a way that isn't vindictive, or blaming etc. This is very much what the counselling is for - to help you communicate and get past your own shame/trauma/whatever so you communicate clearly and kindly