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Confusedlottie · 24/07/2021 12:45

Not sure how I’m going to get all this out in a post but I really need to vent / have some advice on my situation

Me and my fiancé have been together for 8 years .. for most of that I felt very loved and we called each other best friends , all day long he would send me ❤️ Emojis whilst at work etc ..

This past year things have gone seriously down hill .. in august last year I fell pregnant .. it was planned although happened a lot quicker than we both thought .. initially he seemed happy about it but fast forward 2 weeks he was acting really quiet & distant and one evening whilst I was upstairs in the bath he TEXTED me that he didn’t feel it was the right thing to do ( having a baby ) .. that he loves me but doesn’t know if he’s still IN LOVE with me .. I was obviously very shocked and shaken about it all and reacted in anger ( I said a few things about his personality that I can’t take back .. mainly his selfishness) ..

He ended up spending a few weeks in a hotel and I was just so heartbroken I literally cried myself to sleep for weeks , I asked him to try make it work which he has always replied with “ he doesn’t know if his feelings will change “ . And he did try to push towards a termination which I said absolutely not ..
He looked into flats & moving out but financially would be really hard on both of us and regrettably I begged him not to commit to a year lease on a flat and to give us a chance to work things out ..

He stayed but my pregnancy was really miserable,I slept in the spare room the whole time and apart from a couple of times he barely touched me or my bump and payed little to no interest in anything related , after I had the baby we had to stay in hospital for a few days due to infection and he had the option to stay but decided to go home ( due to covid once he left he wasn’t able to come back ) , he then went back to work the day I came home and I felt really disappointed with his choices

Fast forward our baby boy is now 3 months old and just beautiful .. he is still at home and things did seem to get slightly better for a short while but now I’m in a really bad place .. everything he does makes me angry .. I don’t trust him , he lies about where he is going / what he’s doing .. he’s always “ too busy” to do anything with me and the baby and I’m left basically raising him on my own .

He works as a high end car sales man and owns the company himself , one of the perks of the job is he gets to drive these mega sports cars and just yesterday he was stopped on the motorway going 153 mph .. god knows how but he got let go with just a slap on the wrist but this is just one example of his selfish idiotic behaviour . he loves the attention he gets in these cars and woman drool over them 🙄 and being the price tag they have has started rubbing shoulders with the wealthy / Instagramers etc .. having the job he has means I never know where he is as it’s not a standard 9-5 , he gets home at 7pm sometimes and will say he’s got a client viewing a car and instantly my mind takes me places that’s not healthy .. I do have doubts if there was another woman but have zero proof or zero way of finding out this and to be fair during the lockdown he was home most evenings so I’m not sure he would of found time to have someone else .. his phone is attached to his hand 24/7 and even after coming home so late he spends the rest of the evening “ looking for new cars “ on his phone . He maybe sees our son for 40/45 mins a day before he goes to bed and often he will say he’s going in the bath during this time too .. again sitting on his phone in the bath .

we bought a house together 3 years ago the deposit money was mine but the mortgage is in his name solely .. I’m not financially in a position to move out ( on matternity allowance) abd feel like I can’t see any end to this situation

Really don’t know what to do but feel like I’m going to loose my mind sitting here with my thoughts 😢

To add I genuinely love this man so much , he 100% is selfish in his ways but he does have a good heart and has always treated me well untill all this happened .. I still find him attractive but he has hinted that he doesn’t find me as attractive as he used to

Sorry I know that’s probably a huge jumble but there’s so much to say in one message 🙈

Do I give up on him ? I can’t help but feel we won’t get past this

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goose1964 · 24/07/2021 12:52

I'm sorry to say this but it sounds like he's checked out of the relationship already. I'm sure someone will be along soon on the more practical level, especially about the house. Congratulations on the baby he's just getting to the fun times.

Thingsdogetbetter · 24/07/2021 13:04

I think he checked out the mi ute the reality of actually having a baby hit him. It's literally been over in all but name since then. He's really your ex, you just don't want to admit it. He's with you because you love him and he'sa coward, not because he loves you. He certainly isn't showing any signs that he loves the baby.

Is your name on the house deeds at least? Did you ring fence the deposit? Or did you basically pay everything and put it all in his name? Please please say you didn't do that ffs!

spotcheck · 24/07/2021 13:10

but he does have a good heart

No he doesn't.

The expression of a "good heart" is treating people with kindness, respect and honesty.

He isn't being ' good' to you or to the child he helped create.
He's been trying to leave for a year - emotionally, he is gone. Let him go

premium77 · 24/07/2021 13:20

I think it was a mistake to force him to stay when he pretty much made himself clear that he wanted a termination and ‘he’s not IN love’ with you. I’m confused why you’re now surprised he’s not playing happy families.

He’s clearly not treating you or the baby correctly , but I think you have a part to play by just pulling the wool over your eyes. The relationship is clearly over.

Confusedlottie · 24/07/2021 13:20

It’s all in his name , I know he would never do me out of money that isn’t an issue but I do think he will refuse to sell the house

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Confusedlottie · 24/07/2021 13:23

I didn’t force him to stay ? I asked him to reconsider if he felt we were actually over as untill that day he hard never shown any other signs of being unhappy in our relationship .. I actually posted on here about it at the time and lots of people replied that maybe he has panicked at the idea of becoming a father and his response was to back away ..

I felt like our 8 years of relationship was worth fighting for so I think it’s abit unfair of you to say I have forced him ,he could have left at any time but didn’t

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nimbuscloud · 24/07/2021 13:26

It’s all in his name , I know he would never do me out of money that isn’t an issue but I do think he will refuse to sell the house

How do you know he will never do you out of money? There are many many people on MN who thought the same only to find they were shafted.
Are you working?

Confusedlottie · 24/07/2021 13:26

Do you think because he wanted a termination that he should just get that ? We planned the child , we had a app and we’re following my ovulation .. he clearly knew what it took to create a baby and had no problem doing the deeds to make that happen .. I don’t think because I didn’t go ahead with a termination I have part to blame ?

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Confusedlottie · 24/07/2021 13:28

Because I know him .. I know he would give me my fair share , probably offer to buy me out ( I would find this emotionally very difficult as I am very attatched to our home and hate the thought of him moving another woman in )

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Confusedlottie · 24/07/2021 13:30

Sorry I forgot to add , I am currently on maternity leave but self employed and pretty much let go of all my clients during covid and to have this baby .

I could find work pretty easily if I needed to

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Babdoc · 24/07/2021 13:31

OP, I think you need legal advice urgently. If the mortgage is solely in your boyfriend’s name, and you aren’t married, he could throw you out tomorrow - you don’t have any financial security.
Is there any paper trail to show that the deposit was yours, and not a free gift to your boyfriend?
I think you have been very naive to hand over all your cash and become dependent on someone who won’t even marry you to secure your position. You need to start planning your future right now.

Confusedlottie · 24/07/2021 13:35

I KNOW He won’t shaft me , he doesn’t have that in him .. he’s not a are home in that sense ..

We are engaged and I have his child , pretty sure he can’t kick me out tomorrow ..

There is a paper trail I pay half the mortgage and I sent him the deposit via bank transfer ..

Ideally I would of been on the mortgage but after 6 months we almost lost the house and had to do what we had to do to secure the sale .. hun being a director and me being self employed was making it difficult to secure the mortgage at the time .. again though .. I’m not worried at all about hun shafting me for money ..

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Confusedlottie · 24/07/2021 13:38

An arsehole **

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nimbuscloud · 24/07/2021 13:43

An engagement has no legal standing.

Booboosweet · 24/07/2021 13:48

You're in a right fix there. The only thing I can think of is could you sell the house and buy another one where you're both named on the mortgage. If you split now he only has to give you child support.

ThePoint678 · 24/07/2021 13:50

OP you see resistant to taking people’s advice. You’re at significant risk financially and you need legal advice about your deposit and the house. The relationship is probably unfixable at this point. Your focus needs to be on a reasonable split and planning where you will live and getting a job.

Confusedlottie · 24/07/2021 13:52

I am 100% not worried about the financials of th house .. no ones really listening ,. I know this man and I know he wouldn’t shaft me for money .. it’s not his nature

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Hanger0n · 24/07/2021 13:53

@Confusedlottie

I didn’t force him to stay ? I asked him to reconsider if he felt we were actually over as untill that day he hard never shown any other signs of being unhappy in our relationship .. I actually posted on here about it at the time and lots of people replied that maybe he has panicked at the idea of becoming a father and his response was to back away ..

I felt like our 8 years of relationship was worth fighting for so I think it’s abit unfair of you to say I have forced him ,he could have left at any time but didn’t

I asked him to try make it work which he has always replied with “ he doesn’t know if his feelings will change “ .

He looked into flats & moving out but financially would be really hard on both of us and regrettably I begged him not to commit to a year lease on a flat and to give us a chance to work things out ..

But you didn't force him to stay? He was pretty clear in those words and actions. He told you he doesn't love you. That right there was the end of the relationship, but you begged and pleaded...

nimbuscloud · 24/07/2021 13:55

I agree that you need proper legal advice
When you were buying the house was there anything in writing that you were funding the deposit?

Thingsdogetbetter · 24/07/2021 13:59

You say you know him and he won't shaft you financially...... but did you think he would want a termination? That he would stop being in love with you when pregnant? That he would totally check out, lie abut where he is and what he's doing? That he would ignore his son and avoid all parenting duties? Promises made when in love do NOT last when love is gone. You know he's selfish, you know he likes a certain lifestyle, do you really think he's going to be generous about the house and £ when you split up if that endangers his lifestyle?

As pp says, being engaged has no legal standing in terms of house ownership. And nor does being mother of his child. None! The house is HIS legally - you have no legal claim on it. He could argue that the deposit was a gift. You need to get solicitor immediately and see if you can get on the deeds (don't have to be on.mortgage for that I believe) and get you deposit legally protected. Personally I'd do that before splitting up. You have left yourself in a very weak position and need to get to grips with that and take the romantic naivety out of the picture.

nimbuscloud · 24/07/2021 13:59

I think it’s also fair to think that the relationship is over. You need to think with a clear head and figure out what you want to do now.

Confusedlottie · 24/07/2021 13:59

Don’t believe any of that is FORCING him .. I did give him the option to leave if he truly felt that’s what he wanted .. he was full of “ I don’t knows”
.. I didn’t want him to sign a 1 year lease on a flat as he was saying he didn’t know how he felt .. to sign a big lease like that would of been a financial
Burden on both of us for a year when we had a baby on the way during a pandemic ..

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nimbuscloud · 24/07/2021 14:01

Hindsight is a wonderful thing. However it won’t help you now.

MilkWasABadChoice · 24/07/2021 14:04

I don’t think you’re engaged - sorry. you may have a ring but he doesn’t want to marry you and I seriously don’t think you should want to marry him. Good heart? Nope.

Start making your plans about how and when you get back to work, and how you will sort childcare, even though that’s a few months off. Don’t expect anything from him. Start planning to separate from him. Get over the crying and get your head together- you have a child to look after, alone.

Very tough, but this is your situation. Discuss the deposit with a solicitor.

Hanger0n · 24/07/2021 14:14

@Confusedlottie

Don’t believe any of that is FORCING him .. I did give him the option to leave if he truly felt that’s what he wanted .. he was full of “ I don’t knows” .. I didn’t want him to sign a 1 year lease on a flat as he was saying he didn’t know how he felt .. to sign a big lease like that would of been a financial Burden on both of us for a year when we had a baby on the way during a pandemic ..
Sweetheart I know this isn't what you want to hear but all of that was AFTER he told you he didn't want you. You need to start planning a separate future as co parents. He doesn't love you.