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Found out my GF is still in touch with her ex. How do a approach this?

68 replies

StevenZ · 03/07/2021 01:36

Hi all

I (M47) am in a relationship with my girlfriend (F29) for about five months now. We're very much in love (she was the one initiating the relationship btw if that matters) and things are pretty serious between us. However, she sometimes wonders if she enjoyed her 'single' life enough (she's been single for two years since her last serious relationship, but one year feels kind of gone to her due to covid, meaning no festivals, parties, travels etc). I asked her a couple of times if she wouldn't like to be single a bit more and that would be ok, but she insist on having a serious relationship with me.

So things are great, but sexually things started out very slow. The first three months it was a lot of hugging and kissing but she wouldn't respond or initiate anything further. Which is ok, I would never rush anything with anyone. But after four months I asked her if there maybe was a reason for this. I asked if she maybe wasn't that attracted to me physically? No that wasn't it. Maybe she had an unpleasant experience in the past? No, also not. Is there maybe still someone else on your mind? No not at all.

Eventually our sexlife became a bit better, but she would still sometimes be either totally not in the mood, even after a romantic day/evening, or would completely switch "off" during sex. Stating that all of a sudden she wasn't horny anymore. I found this pretty confusing. She gave fear of commitment/abandonment as a reason and that she usually is very slow opening up sexually in a new relation. But she did used to have one-night-stands or bootycalls with guys when she was single, but that was easier because she would then always be under influence of alcohol or drugs. It almost feels like she has a problem having sex 'sober' or to develop a healthy intimate relationship within a relationship.

And although for me physical intimacy is also an important part in a serious relationship, I still try to be patient and understanding. And besides that we're having a great time.

Unfortunately I found out by accident in her phone that she is still regularly in touch with her most recent "flirt". A guy she has been having casual sex with on/off in about a 10 month period, ending two months before we got together. After some investigation I found out they met at least twice, they send each other heart emojis under pictures on social media, and he calls her sweetie in chats. He also sent her a message at 02:00am asking if she's still awake. They talk as if they are sharing a lot about their daily lives, meet for a coffee etc.

When I confronted her she denied at first and then said she didn't say anything because I would only start asking questions and it wasn't nice for me to talk about someone she had been sleeping with. Then came all the cliche's: I don't want anything with him anymore, he's just a friend, that's just how we communicate, he knows I'm with you now etc. I found out she then immediately send a voice-note to him telling that her boyfriend had been super angry that they had met and that I didn't believe it was pure friendly between them. Ending with a sarcastic "yes really nice.. a relationship!". He replied: "Oh I didn't know you were actually in a relationship with him".

This was four months into us being together.

Since our first conversation with all her cliche excuses, I feel I won't get any real answers from her anymore. She gets defensive and turns it around saying that I'm making a too big of a deal out of this. She also denies that our 'strange' sex-life has anything to do with this. (Something that came to mind with me as well of course).

I decided we should take a two week break to think things over.

After two days she sent me a postcard saying that she's incredibly sorry for what happened and that she had no idea that her actions had made me feel so bad. And that she hopes we can work this out because she's very much in love with me and really wants our relationship to continue.

What do I do now!??!?

I have a feeling further discussions about this issue will be pointless and create more stress. I do like her a lot and wish things could return to normal and we live happily ever after.

Or is the combination of her doubt of not having been single long enough (still longs for parties, meeting new people, experimenting etc), our difficult sex-life, and lying about staying close with a recent fuckbuddy enough red flags to just put and end to the relationship?

Is this all becasue of our age difference and being in different life-phases and/or having different values?

I don't know anymore what I should do.

Any advice from an outsider would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance

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Wiredforsound · 03/07/2021 08:29

OP, are you wealthy?

spotcheck · 03/07/2021 08:41

When I confronted her she denied at first and then said she didn't say anything because I would only start asking questions and it wasn't nice for me to talk about someone she had been sleeping with

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66babe · 03/07/2021 08:50

I don't think this is the right relationship for you
She seems flakey ,disrespectful, using drugs ?
I'd move on and find someone more compatible ?

nattertAtter · 03/07/2021 09:02

I find it pretty creepy that you think she has “Daddy issues” but are happy to date her whilst your old enough to be her father.

To be honest it sounds like she’s just not into you. The sex sounds like someone who doesn’t want to have sex but is pushing themselves to do it to maintain a relationship

seensome · 03/07/2021 09:09

She sounds very immature for her age, this is far too much drama 5 months in, if I had a bf that behaved like your gf I would dump permanently and look forward to moving on.

VettiyaIruken · 03/07/2021 09:12

It sounds like she's getting a set of needs met by you that have nothing to do with romance and sex with you is the price she has to force herself to pay to get those needs met.

I'd walk away if I were you. Find someone your age / without abandonment issues / who wants to be intimate with you / who sees you as a romantic partner.

You talk about her not like your equal but like a wilful child who needs bringing back into line.

This is not a healthy relationship.

SmokeyDevil · 03/07/2021 09:21

Eh she's a cheater, and her ex knows it now as she clearly lied to him about you. Dump her. I doubt he'll want her now either from the sounds of it. Then she can carry on with her actual single life until she finds someone to settle down with (or cheat on when she gets bored), and you can find someone else.

But this won't end well. She doesn't want you really, just won't admit it.

BillMasen · 03/07/2021 09:33

Mate, you’ll get a fair few responses having a go for checking the phone, for you being controlling, you needing to let her see who she wants etc. It’s because you’re a bloke, your concerns would be fine coming from a woman.

I think you need to let this one go. She’s not fully committed, she’s keeping an option open and lying about it (I think you’re probably right about her wanting to be single for a bit longer).

66babe · 03/07/2021 09:46

@BillMasen I think you are wrong there
The majority of the responses seem to be encouraging this poster that she is not right for him and yes while going through a phone is a massive flag whether you are a man or woman I think it's fair to say he's had good advice here ...
We don't all buy into the " men are shit " mentality

Northernsoullover · 03/07/2021 09:55

I don't think she is that into you. I've been horribly guilty of this when I was younger. The guy was perfect on paper but I wasn't attracted to him. So I grinned and beared it. It was very cruel of me. I wanted to be attracted to him. I just wasn't.

BillMasen · 03/07/2021 09:55

[quote 66babe]@BillMasen I think you are wrong there
The majority of the responses seem to be encouraging this poster that she is not right for him and yes while going through a phone is a massive flag whether you are a man or woman I think it's fair to say he's had good advice here ...
We don't all buy into the " men are shit " mentality [/quote]
Not all of you no 😉

66babe · 03/07/2021 09:57

@BillMasen but I hear you 😉

OldChinaJug · 03/07/2021 10:17

Older men are very appealing to some younger women for many easons - they believe them to be more mature; less likely to want to less around with others; more financially secure etc but they're not often physically attracted to them because, wel in any other scenario, a man nearly 20 years older than you is always going to look 'old'.

I agree with you that she probably needs to be single for a bit longer. 'Accidentally finding messages on someone's phone always sounds suspicious - I've never accidentally found messages in someone else's phone because I don't really have cause to use someone else's phone and, when I have, I've never opened their messages. So people aren't going to buy your 'accidentally' line.

However, what you describe is not a relationship with two people who are very much in love.

Ultimately, we have no idea why she is doing this.

Perhaps she is using your for money/status; perhaps she just likes to get to know someone really well before sex but hasn't quite understood this about herself so tries but then loses interest; perhaps there is something about the sex that puts her off; perhaps she isn't interested in you suficiently; perhaps there is past trauma that she doesn't want to share with you. Who knows.

But if you're not happy, end it and walk away.

Naunet · 03/07/2021 10:59

Incredible the number of people jumping on you for being upset about her lying about/hiding her friendship with an old flame. If this was her posting that you were still in touch with an old fuck buddy there'd be uproar

Any proof of this? So sick of women jumping to a man’s defence with ‘if this was the other way around there would be uproar’, whilst having no evidence of this what so ever.

She didn’t lie anyway, and no, new men don’t get to rock up and start dictating who his new girlfriend needs to cut out of her life..

BillMasen · 03/07/2021 11:06

@Naunet

Incredible the number of people jumping on you for being upset about her lying about/hiding her friendship with an old flame. If this was her posting that you were still in touch with an old fuck buddy there'd be uproar

Any proof of this? So sick of women jumping to a man’s defence with ‘if this was the other way around there would be uproar’, whilst having no evidence of this what so ever.

She didn’t lie anyway, and no, new men don’t get to rock up and start dictating who his new girlfriend needs to cut out of her life..

Proof? Yep a million previous threads. I don’t think you’re new here so I presume you’ve read them

And she did lie, it’s right there in the op which I also presume you’ve read

SheldonesqueTheBstard · 03/07/2021 11:11

Also in the top post, he was grilling her for reasons why she wouldn’t accommodate his knob.

He ain’t no peach.

Naunet · 03/07/2021 11:12

Proof? Yep a million previous threads. I don’t think you’re new here so I presume you’ve read them

Great, easy to find one then where a woman has been told her boyfriend of 4 months is a bastard for keeping in touch with someone he use to hook up with, right? A thread with lots of uproar from women…

BillMasen · 03/07/2021 11:19

@Naunet

Proof? Yep a million previous threads. I don’t think you’re new here so I presume you’ve read them

Great, easy to find one then where a woman has been told her boyfriend of 4 months is a bastard for keeping in touch with someone he use to hook up with, right? A thread with lots of uproar from women…

A Bastard for lying about it to her, yep there will be plenty. I know what comes next is you asking for links and me not being arsed to trawl around and find what we both know is there, so let’s just skip to the end and call this exchange a draw…
MzHz · 03/07/2021 11:22

Are you wealthy? Wealthier than her? Own house etc, what does she do for a living

She was flirting and meeting up in your early relationship and you let it go

No fool like an old fool eh Wink (I’m older than you btw and made massive mistakes myself so please take that in the leg pull way I meant it Smile)

This relationship isn’t real. It’s transactional and you’re getting a bad deal.

Make the break permanent

pinkyredrose · 03/07/2021 11:26

You looked through her phone? It doesn't sound a great relationship anyway.

Naunet · 03/07/2021 11:28

A Bastard for lying about it to her, yep there will be plenty. I know what comes next is you asking for links and me not being arsed to trawl around and find what we both know is there, so let’s just skip to the end and call this exchange a draw…

Is that after she’d been through his phone, or do you want to leave that part out? If there’s millions of threads like that, it should be very easy to prove this claim of double standards. I’d have thought you’d be keen to do that?

Skyla2005 · 03/07/2021 11:30

Seriously you need to be with someone your own age. She's playing you and your falling right into her hands. Your blinded by it because she's young and your flattered but she is making a fool out of you !

GrumpyTerrier · 03/07/2021 11:40

OP it is normal to want to be able to explain why someone is acting in a confusing way. The problem is, sometimes people don't even know themselves, why they are doing certain things or reacting. it may be she is conflicted about still wanting other male attention and also wanting a settled relationship. And perhaps she does have sex issues-- it isnt uncommon for people to struggle in this area.

Basically, you may never be able to explain all this. You have to look at whether the good outweighs the bad. If nothing changes, can you continue like this? Is is really working?

If you aren't sure then give her another chance and see. Accept the relationship as it is insteand of agonising about the why and wherefore. Then you'll have to decide whether you want it in your life or not.

I know it is not easy or simple in reality. But it really does boil down to that choice.

finkirt · 03/07/2021 12:05

Your age gap is 18 years, she is in touch with her ex, your sex life is not what you would like..... End it!

StevenZ · 03/07/2021 12:16

Wow first of all thanks for all these reactions! The general conclusion seems very clear, that this is not going to work out in the end.

But I feel I have to explain a little bit more to some people calling me controlling or possessive.

Like I said, it was her who chased me in the beginning. She started texting me and wanted to hang out, initiate dates. I was single and I thought she was nice, intelligent and attractive. So our dates became more regular, until eventually we were seeing each other daily and started sleeping over and after about 6 weeks I asked her if she wanted to be boyfriend/girlfriend. She said yes.

I'm not very active on social media, but do have a profile and she wanted to be "FB official". So she put on her profile that she was in a relationship with me, and I accepted. So now on both our profiles it says 'in a relationship with...'. I thought that was cute.

Of course I then see all her other posts and noticed this guy's comments and her comments to him. It was quite obvious that for the last 10 months they were more than friends. (Not just the occasional hearts, but reacting in a way 'lovers' do, I think everyone here knows how that looks). Ok no problem, that was probably she had been dating or flirting with. I did find it a bit odd that this kept going on until now, also when we were already dating/together. But still no problem, I have no business in who and how she's talking to other people.

But then four months into our "official" relationship I see she is tagged in a picture on a night out with girlfriends drinking + that guy. That night already felt a bit 'off' as it was also for the first time ever she stopped responding to my texts or calls. We usually update each other a bit of how the evening is going or that we're home safe and wish each other goodnight etc. She disappeared until the next afternoon. That's when I asked her who she was out with last night? First it was just the girls and eventually she mentions him. He was a friend of one of her girlfriends. Then it was a mutual friend. When I told her it looks like they've been a bit closer than that by the way they communicate on FB, she admitted it was a guy she used to date a year ago, but it didn't work out, and eventually she said he was her on/off f**buddy until about a month before she met me. But that she already told him they can't meet 'like that' anymore.

I then asked her why she needed to be so secretive about still being in touch with him. We tell each other about all our other friends, male and female, even other exes, what's so different in this case? She said that she didn't tell me because I would only have been starting to ask questions, and that it would not me nice for me to hear about someone she had been sleeping with. And that I probably wouldn't like it if I knew she was hanging out with him drinking. I was a bit confused why you would do something that you think yourself your partner would not like, but still do it. And then stop communicating the rest of the evening as well? Asking about why they are stil calling each other sweetheart online and sending each other hearts and kisses, she said oh that's just how we communicate.

I told her it all feels a bit odd, especially because up until now we have been super transparent about basically everything.

Now, yes I have to admit at this point I started to put two and two together. Like someone else here pointed out, she's not a-sexual. She's been dating and sleeping around here and there for the past two years and that's perfectly fine, I think that's healthy behaviour at her age. But in our relationship she doesn't seem that into affection, and when we do have sex she sometimes completely switches off. For me that COULD be an indication that someone else is still on your mind. At least, for me that would be a good reason to feel a mental 'blockade' with intimacy if I'm still not over someone else. As much as I like the new person.

Then there's her still existing doubt if she has enjoyed her 'free time' enough. I asked her numerous times (also after this thing with the guy) if she would not rather be single again for a while? I would be sad, but if that's what she wants/needs that perfectly ok with me. I would never want to deny her any experiences she feels needs to have at her age. I know that feeling very well and it's an important and integral part of getting to know yourself and grow as a person. Not just sexual freedom, but also travel alone, meet new friends, explore different subcultures etc. Please do so if you feel that urge. But no. She's the one clinging on the idea of having a very serious relationship with me.

Now.. I have been in this exact situation in the past. A girlfriend who was a bit too friendly online with her gym instructor. Same thing. A bit too many heart emojjis, 'meeting' secretly, and when confronted the exact same story: That's just how we communicate, it's just friendly between us, he knows I'm with you, I don't want a relationship with him, we can talk really well, I didn't want to upset you. And guess what? That was a full blown affair behind my back.

So yes hearing all that again and not wanting to be taken for a fool another time, yes I picked up current gf's phone and copied the chat history with this guy to my email. And of course I find out they have been chit chatting all along the past four months. Meeting for coffees, calling each other darling, him texting her at 2:00am if she's still awake, her inviting him to come over for drinks with her girlfriends. The voice messages 'complaining' that I was asking questions about who he was, him responding 'oh I didn't know you were actually in a relationship with him' etc.

Now.. am I an overreacting asshole? Or is she just using me and still f*ing around?

What to make of her sending me a letter that she's incredibly sorry and had no idea how her actions upset me and she wants to do everything to make it work between us? Is that fake? Or sincere.

Oh and about another question here: she has no particular financial or other non romantic gain from being with me, other than that I pay the occasional meal and bought her some little gifts. I'm not some super rich old bloke or something.

Hope this clarifies a bit.

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