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Should I give her another chance after cheating

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p12241342 · 25/05/2021 13:06

Hello

We do I start.

I have been with my partner for the past 20 years and most of the time things have been good. We have 2 lovely children and own our home, we are not rich, but we are not poor, everything is good (or was so I believed).

Over the past couple of months my partner has been distant, on here phone all the time and silly, but true, walking the dog for 2 hours at a time every evening. It felt like something was wrong and after asking her many times she tried to say it was me and I was looking into things too much. But I could see she was getting distant, not only in the day to day stuff, but in the bedroom too.

I spoke to her at the weekend after she had a bottle of wine thinking she would open up to me. To start it was a very close case and she was adamant she hadn’t got someone else. I asked three times and she said there was no one else. I asked her then to swear on our family (which is wrong I know) but I know she would do that unless it was true. Then she said yes there was someone else and she had slept with him also. What’s worse is that the man in question is our sons friends dad, who recently split up from his wife because his wife cheated on him (ironic).

My whole world come tumbling down around me in that short space of time. We continued to talk and more and more come to light. She originally said she had feelings for him and has told him that she loves him. She also said she had only slept with him once and that we 3 weeks ago. I’m 41 and she is 40 and I have found out that she is meeting a guy slightly younger in a car in a local car park (this is not where she slept with him by the way, or at least that what she’s telling me. Not that it matters) This was all happening when I thought she was out walking the dog. She would meet him nightly and then come home to me and our kids like nothing had happened. She says she felt guilty, but obviously not enough to put a stop to it. I asked how long it’s been going on and she said 8 weeks or so. I asked did she love him and has she told him and she said yes.

After speaking to her for many hours its sounded like she was telling me that we were splitting up. I threatened to tell my children what she had done, I know that’s wrong, but I did actually tell our 18 year old daughter. She was discussed with my partner and said she wanted nothing to do with her. Shortly after this my partner said to me that she didn’t want us to split and wanted us to work things out. She seems really sincere, she is full of guilt, so apologetic and full of remorse. After speaking with my partner she says she understands she has made a massive mistake and has done wrong.

The thing I can’t get over is that she slept with the guy early on. She said she felt guilty about sleeping with him, but she carried on meeting him in a car park when taking the dog and let her feelings grow. If it was a mistake why not put a stop to it. Instead she carried on meeting him nightly for another 6 weeks.

If she felt that guilty she would have stopped straight after she slept with him. But instead she carried on seeing him night after night. I even said to her, if you hadn’t have told me you would have been meeting him this week also. I feel she told me because I pushed her into a corner not wanting to come clean.

She is saying she made a mistake and wants us to try again. For us as well as the kids. She seems truly sorry and genuine and I do after all this believe that she does mean what she says. She sent the guy a text saying that she wanted to give things another go with me and that they shouldn’t contact any more. He text back saying “Ok if that’s what you really want”. They had this pact that she admitted, he wouldn’t text her unless she text him first. That way the coast was clear and I or the kids wouldn’t be around. She has been honest about all this even though she knows it will hurt me deeply. She deleted her accounts on Instagram, Snapchat etc which was what she use to text him on. She also blocked him on Whatsapp. But on Monday he then tried calling her when she was at work knowing I wouldn’t be around. Once again my partner was honest and told me this. She also said she didn’t answer because she wanted us to work and promised she wouldn’t. She didn’t have to tell me.

We have been talking overnight and she has told me that she loves me and what she feels for me and what she feels for him is different. She loves and wants me. Not him. It’s going to take a long time to get over my hurt, but I thought I need to try and get over this as I don’t want to lose her as I love her with all my heart. It’s hard, but I need to try. I said to her tonight that may be, she needs to send him one last text and tell him it’s over and to stop contacting her as he has been trying to make contact. She said no leave it, he knows and she doesn’t need to tell him again. This morning she felt so loving and was texting and asking if I was ok. Then all of a sudden out the blue she said, should she text him one last time to once again say its over and to stop contact. That’s sent me back to the start. Why is she thinking about him or his feelings. She didn’t think I dissevered an explanation when she was sleeping behind my back and meeting him each night. Why is she thinking that she should be contacting him one last time. I’m just glad she is being honest with me and not just doing it anyway. She said she doesn’t want it to be arkward if she bumps in to him.

Is that the real reason or is she pinning for him and because she hasn’t spoken to him in a number of days she really wants to make contact. My mind is all over the place and just don’t know what’s real any more.

I’m hurt, im sad and I’m missing the person I love more than anything else in the world. I just don’t know what to do.

Am I doing the right thing? Should I be giving her a second chance ( I really want to as I love her ) but am I stupid for doing so. Even though she says she has feelings for him, but doesn’t want to be with him she wants me, is that true? Or by her wanting to make contact, is that a sign that she can’t leave him alone?

She did say one thing that made sense which was “if she really wanted him and wanted to leave wouldn’t now be the perfect time to do it because of all the mess we are going through now.

She said she doesn’t want us to split she will do whatever she needs to do to gain my trust again and she understand it will take time. She could leave right now but she wants to stay. Am I being silly letting her stay and thinking I am the one she wants because I want to believe it so much or should after all the above, should I be cutting ties once and for all. By the way I know people stay for the sake of the children, but I want to save what we have for me and my partner as well as our children.

I’m sorry I have rambled but any advice would be much appreciated

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JesusIsAnyNameFree · 25/05/2021 13:31

I'm so sorry this happened to you OP.

Has she explained at all why this happened? I think it's important to get to the bottom of how she got there and why. People who are happy in their relationship do not tend to cheat, not that that's an excuse at all.

You seem to love her lots and if you do think you could move past this, you need to talk to her about what you need to happen now. For example, either contact the other man one last time and really, truly burn that bridge, i.e "please stop contacting me, I told you I love my husband, not you and you and I were a mistake. I do not want to hear from you ever again".

I also think Relate should be discussed.

I hope you figure this whole mess out and come out of it feeling happy, whatever it is you decide to do.

p12241342 · 25/05/2021 13:39

Thank you JesusIsAnyNameFree for getting back to me.

I appreciate your advice.

I have asked he why and she says she doesn't know she was stupid and understands all the problems she has caused. She says she doesnt know why. But at one point she did say he makes her happy and she hasn't been happy with us for a while. I keep bringing that up and now she is changing her mind by saying she was confused, she is happy. She was just stupid and its not excuse but people make mistakes.

I just don't know what to do

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TwinkleStar88 · 25/05/2021 13:50

You can take her back but how will you get over the deceit and the lack of trust?

I could not forgive this and I don’t think many people could, only you know if this is something you can move on from.

Good luck!

JesusIsAnyNameFree · 25/05/2021 13:52

I see I lost my train of thought when I was interrupted by a work call there.
For example, either contact the other man one last time and really, truly burn that bridge, i.e "please stop contacting me, I told you I love my husband, not you and you and I were a mistake. I do not want to hear from you ever again" or just block on everything, never ever contact him again and always, ALWAYS tell you if he has been in touch in any way, shape or form and if she is having any thoughts on contact him herself. This is important. If there isn't complete honesty now, this won't work. I would go for the nuclear option though. Burn that bridge.

I really do feel Relate is the way to go here. Working through these things without some guidance sounds incredibly difficult. She is clearly struggling to make sense of her own emotions and motives for doing this and a counsellor should be able to help her and you understand how this all came to happen.

p12241342 · 25/05/2021 13:59

Hi TwinkleStar88

Thanks for the reply.

I dont know how I'm going to get through it or even if I can. I just see right now she is being completely honest with what happened and being completely transparent and somewhere inside me thinks that has to count for something doesn't it.

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p12241342 · 25/05/2021 14:01

Hi JesusIsAnyNameFree

She has blocked everything but does he deserve to hear that its over once and for all

I just don't know what to do

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TwinkleStar88 · 25/05/2021 14:14

@p12241342 - She didn’t tell you on her own accord, you had to push her for answers, she doesn’t seem genuinely remorseful in my opinion but only you know your wife enough to know whether she is being genuine.

It happened to me in a relationship before my DH, I forgave the first time but it happened again and he was very sincere and acting exactly like your wife but once he knew I forgave him, he blatantly saw this as an opportunity to do it again.

p12241342 · 25/05/2021 14:28

Your right. I did have to push her in to it

The worst thing is she has just told me something else. May be I should stop asking questions as she is brutally honest

She said that she took time off work to go and sleep with him in the afternoon on that day and that it was planned.

She had plenty of time to pull out as it was planned, I thought it was a spur of the moment thing when she slept with him.

I think you may be right I don't know if I can do this

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JesusIsAnyNameFree · 25/05/2021 14:34

It's not so much about him deserving it, it's more about her burning the bridge to show you she is serious.

If you don't feel like you can do this, then that's okay. She has fucked up and most of us couldn't move past it. I am 99.9% sure I couldn't ever forgive my husband if it was me.

Remember you are allowed to take time. Go stay at your mum's or something for a while, separate and do Relate while living apart to see if it can be fixed if that's what you want. There's no right or wrong way, you just have to do what is best for you.

p12241342 · 25/05/2021 14:36

Thank you JesusIsAnyNameFree

Your advice is spot on.

I love her... I don't want to loose here but everything seems to point in the direction of that she didn't think about me or my feelings when all this was going on. It could have been stopped by her at any point. Instead things just carried on.

I dont know if I can let her go but how do I live with all this thats happened.

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Acupofcamus · 25/05/2021 14:50

I don’t think I could forgive this personally, no. If she felt genuinely guilty and remorseful, she would have offered the information up the first time it happened and she wouldn’t have cheated numerous times. I think it’s easier to forgive a random one-off as opposed to a full blown affair which she has had. It also sounds as though she would have continued with it had you not pushed her into confessing.

She has totally betrayed you and I’m not sure whether you’d ever be able to trust her again. You could try marriage counselling before ending things but I’d say this is dead in the water.

p12241342 · 25/05/2021 14:53

Thank you Acupofcamus for the advice

I 100% agree that I think she would be carrying on now if she handnt come clean .

The thing is I know what your saying and think you are right

But I have to try dont I?

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TwinkleStar88 · 25/05/2021 15:02

@p12241342 - No you don’t have to try, if you want to try, it needs to be because you want to, not for anybody else. If you do choose to make things work you will need professional help to get past this point but the truth is, you never forget it.
I know things can happen for various reasons but numerous times isn’t an innocent mistake in my eyes.
Also I’d avoid asking her too much, you don’t need to know too many details because this will eat away at you.
You haven’t mentioned whether you had an active sex life, or whether you were intimate with each other still. Is this something that was still happening?

p12241342 · 25/05/2021 15:08

TwinkleStar88

I agree that numerous times isn’t an innocent mistake. My head is telling me that but my heart is saying otherwise.

With regards to our sex lives for many years things were great but the last few months there has been nothing. She would always go straight to sleep or say not tonight tomorrow. There was just nothing for the past couple of months

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Onthedunes · 25/05/2021 15:08

You don't have to try, she does.

Personally when someone finds out about their partner having an an affair it is rarely the end of the affair, they rarely stop it at the request of another.
They tend to stop them themselves, when they have fizzeled out or when they are ready.

I'm sorry but an affair is much harder to stomach than ONS, Op I really feel for you and the hearbreak you are going through.

Remember her keeness to 'make it work' with you will be damage limitation on her part, her daughter thinks badly of her, she doesn't want you telling others and also her financial security may be threatened, of course.
She's presently gauging the OM's response to you finding out, she's thinking do I make that jump into the unknown, do I know this new man will take care of me?

I know you think you know her op, but at the present you do not.
I wouldn't believe anything she says, everything she did was premeditated and done stone cold sober.

JustAnotherOldMan · 25/05/2021 15:13

@p12241342

Your right. I did have to push her in to it

The worst thing is she has just told me something else. May be I should stop asking questions as she is brutally honest

She said that she took time off work to go and sleep with him in the afternoon on that day and that it was planned.

She had plenty of time to pull out as it was planned, I thought it was a spur of the moment thing when she slept with him.

I think you may be right I don't know if I can do this

I think you have answered your own question here, take time to think things over, but I think you marriage is pretty doomed, get a good solicitor lined up.
p12241342 · 25/05/2021 15:14

Onthedunes

You are right. You are completely right with every aspect of what you have written.

Am I just trying to hold on to something thats already gone. You don't need to answer that, as I know the answer myself.

Im holding on to hope even after everything she has put me through in the past few months.

We have been together 20 years, why now. Its like she has turned 40 and gone off the rails.

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Wherearemymarbles · 25/05/2021 16:13

The thing to remember is you dont have to make a decision today or tomorrow or next month or in the next 6 months.
Time will tell you if you can get past this so dont be in a rush.

My guess is she started sleeping with him when she stopped sleeping with you and i dont buy they only had sex once. There is plenty you can do in a car that doesn't involve penetration.

Jonjojobs123 · 25/05/2021 16:25

Unless you have been met with this predicament you are unable to answer honestly. I don't think i have met one person who has said they could forgive cheating....until it happens to you. I remember both my friend and my sister being cheated on by there husbands and i was completely shocked when they decided to work on thing and give their relationship another chance. Then it happened to me. I am 18 months on from finding out my husband cheated. It was an horrific breach of trust, every memory pretty much shattered to pieces. HOWEVER we have a completely different relationship now. Its open and honest, we communicate freely which has resulted in a really happy contented relationship. Do i still think of the betrayal, yes, will i 100% trust him again, probably not but should he give me a reason to doubt him then i would not give him the benefit of the doubt this time. People say you are a mug/door mat/no self respect/ a push over etc etc for deciding to stay after you have been betrayed. But only you can make that decision for yourself and I don't think any of those labels are fair. When i agreed to stay and give things another go i wasn't offering any guarantees, I didn't know if i would change my mind or if things would become to hard. My husband accepted this and never rushed or pressured me, if i'm honest i now have the husband i always wanted as he now always puts me and my feelings first. Don't pressurise your self, you can agree to give things a go but you can always reserve tge right to change you mind

Seadad · 25/05/2021 16:32

Take a breath OP! Right now you are suffering enormous trauma and your head and emotions will be all over the place. You aren't in a place to take calm long term decisions- and that's OK!

The fundamental issue here is that you have been betrayed by the person you trusted, probably most in the world. And trust is at the very heart of every relationship you have with anyone.

Trust grows in a relationship, from small sprouting leaves to a full tree. If it is cut down it can't just be grown back overnight - and it may never grow to be what it was.

I think you have to accept that the relationship you had with your wife - with the person you thought she was, is over. The trust has been cut -and it's for you to decide how much is left and if it can be salvaged or regrown.

You may develop a new relationship with her as you now know her- or in time with someone else - or choose to be single. But in all three options give yourself time to reflect and grow by taking things slowly.

I think if you are to have any chance of saving your marriage then, ironically, you have to end the past and see that it wasn't as you thought. Your DW had wants and desires you couldn't meet. And then think, would you choose her again now - knowing what you know? You will know her as well as anyone. Is she someone who can make you happy again - is she someone you could trust enough to begin a relationship with?

Take yourself away, think about what you want, and let her do the same. And if you both want to start again, you can go slow- a walk or a drink.
You don't have to decide any of this yet. It's OK to walk away and it's OK deal with your emotions first. And your wife has to honestly decide if she wants to stay married to you too, not in panic, but on reflection over what she has in you and her family and her own desires.
If you are just there to forgive and be the safe landing space for her 'mistakes' - she will never respect you or feel safe or fulfilled with you.
By all means look to couple counselling- but also
get yourself some counselling OP - just for you. Understand and come to terms with how you feel, and how you want the rest of your life to pan out.
Good luck OP.

p12241342 · 25/05/2021 16:34

Jonjojobs123

Im sorry you have experienced this too. As I'm sure you are aware it feels like my world have ended.

I really do want to give things another go and I do want to make it work.

Your the first person I have come across that can turn a very negative thing in to something salvageable. Everything is so negative and i'm not sure if I should be listening to my heart or my head.

Can I trust her, no, do I love her, hell yes, am I hurt yes. Will I ever get over it I don't know.

But I'm willing to try. The only thing holding me back truly is that if she hadn't been cornered into telling me, she would have been meeting him this week in the car too.

I said this to her and she said how do we know that. She had been seeing him for 2 months why would this week be any different.

She has been 100% honest with me and a times to honest. But I did ask.

I just hope I don't give us another chance and find that she does have feelings for him and decided she can't do this and leaves anyway.

Am I setting myself up for a fall? .... who knows

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p12241342 · 25/05/2021 16:39

Seadad

Thank you for taking the time to reply and provide me with such helpful advice.

I agree with everything you have said. I just want my wife back.. But I know she has gone - I'm grieving.

I probably will try again, but only if there is 2 of us in this. I can't do it if I don't have 100% from her and if the other person is still around.

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JesusIsAnyNameFree · 25/05/2021 16:54

Have you talked about going to Relate? It doesn't mean you agree to definitely try again, it just means you're trying to figure out if it's even worth trying or not.

p12241342 · 25/05/2021 16:57

JesusIsAnyNameFree

we did say may be we should try relate. But do we really need to sit in front of a stranger when we can do this ourselves.

We have spoken about this at great lengths and we have been shouting or raising our voices. We just talk. She constantly tells me she loves and we can make this work then I blow hot and cold. One minute we can try the next I can't do this.

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KinseyWinsey · 25/05/2021 17:06

You need time.

You've had a horrible shock.

I don't think it's fair to expect you to make a decision right now about your married future.

You need time to take stock and evaluate how you feel.

You'll probably feel extremely angry before long. Right now you sound hurt and a bit dazed because of the shock.

Would you consider time apart whilst you consider your options?

She didn't seem to have much difficulty lying to you and cheating on you, did she? I think you should hold her at arms length for a bit.