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Relationship ended because I have a child

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CorsaG19 · 19/05/2021 21:26

I've seen this is quite a regular topic on here and it's helped reading the threads somewhat but I just feel like I need to talk to someone as I'm really struggling.

It's a long read so I apologise and thank you if you stick it through. I'm a lesbian with an 8 year old daughter who does not see her other parent. 4 years ago I met someone at work. It was honestly love at first sight for me. We instantly clicked but there was one issue, she had just got into a relationship. For the next 6 months we had this emotional whatever it was. Speaking most days. Facetime. We came close to kissing at work a few times but never went through with it and it never got sexual. It was just a really intense situation. I then realised I couldn't do it anymore and cut all contact. We obviously saw each other at work and we were always drawn to each other. Just conversations here and there, looks and smiles, but we worked shifts and very rarely saw each other.
First lockdown she messaged me and we spent 2 weeks back having our intense all day conversations but she was in the middle of a very messy and volatile break up and we both decided we should stop.
Fast forward to November when she again gets in contact with me. It was like we had never stopped talking. We spoke all day every day. It escalated into being on facetime up to 18 hours a day (we slept overnight on facetime to each other). We had both been made redundant due to covid and she had to move back to her parents 120 miles away so I spoke to her family on facetime most days.

Now she was obviously fully aware I had a daughter. She had met her once before back in the day. She spoke to her most days on facetime. Her family spoke to her. Once lockdown started lifting we decided we couldn't wait to see each other again anymore and she came to stay with me.

She always made it clear that she wasn't keen on children. She didn't want them herself and she didn't know if she would cope with mine as she had never been in that situation. She is 8 years younger than me so we are at different stages of our life. We decided at first for her to come during the week when my daughter was at school so she just saw her a few hours in the evening. Then she asked if she could stay the weekend. It then turned into about 6 weeks of her mainly being at mine and going back to her parents the days I had work. Everything was perfect between us. We never argued. We have the same interests. We liked doing the same things. I had never ever felt like that with anyone. It was never awkward. I saw her as my soul mate (cringe I know). She did some baking with my daughter, she bought her a few things she thought she might like. I never asked her for anything and never put it on her. I wanted her to go at her own pace. He started talking about one day buying a house together and then having a child together. Last week we spent the week together with my daughter going on a sleepover at her cousins Friday night. When I collected her Saturday, the gf decided she would go home. For 24 hours everything was fine. Constant messaging as usual. The 'I love you' message at bedtime. Then she rang me sobbing. She couldn't get her words out. And then she said it. She couldn't see it working with us as she's struggling too much with the child situation. She's spoken with her mum (who wants her to stay there with her and not move back to where she now calls home) and realised she doesn't want children and she wants to be in a relationship with someone who makes her a priority which I cant and that's not fair to me or my child.

Now as much as this hurts, I respect that. She doesnt have children and she made it clear at the start she doesn't know how she will react. I had an evil step mum growing up and I'm thankful she hasn't let it get to that point. But I am absolutely devastated. I cant stop crying. I cant eat and if I do I end up throwing it back up. It's only been 4 days but I've never felt like this in my life. I'm just lost. I feel like I've lost my best friend. I've cut all contact. Deleted her off everything and all our pictures. Everything that reminds me of her. But this feeling is horrendous. I spent the day looking at the Samaritans number and crying. I just feel so stupid but I dont really have anyone to talk to and it's destroyed me. It's not ended on a negative as such. We didn't argue. No one cheated. We had a grown up discussion with us both crying and I accepted her decision. I feel like thats what's making it feel worse

I know it will get better but I just feel so mad that she never said anything for all this time and we had the best few months finally together and then boom she rings me and thats it. Its just gutting.

OP posts:
BookiesBicycle · 19/05/2021 21:43

She must have really liked you to try so hard and for so long, then finally giving you and your daughter the respect and courtesy to be honest and say she couldn’t do it.

There are some positives to be taken out of this. Your little family has just been saved a lot of future heartache. Take as much comfort in that as you can.

Cloudfrost · 19/05/2021 21:48

nowhere in this post have i seen YOU to show any consideration on how this woman basically moving in with you out of nowhere woulkd affect your daughter....

Donitta · 19/05/2021 21:59

She’s given it a try and was honest that she couldn’t handle it. I don’t see what else she could have done? Not go out with you at all I suppose. But she had to try it in order to realise it’s not for her. You said she was up front in the first place about thinking she didn’t want kids and she didn’t know if she would cope, so you were forewarned that this was a trial and it might not work out. Sorry but it just sounds like you’ve got too invested too soon when you already knew she was unsure.

CorsaG19 · 19/05/2021 22:01

@Cloudfrost

nowhere in this post have i seen YOU to show any consideration on how this woman basically moving in with you out of nowhere woulkd affect your daughter....
I fully appreciate that. I just didn't want to make the post another 4 paragraphs long. I always kept my daughter a priority. Hence the overall problem. Whenever we spoke on facetime my daughter just knew her as being my friend. But 8 year old aren't stupid and she remembered meeting her once 4 years ago. She would joke about us loving each other and we should be girlfriends etc. We laughed it off. Then before the gf came to stay I sat her down and spoke to her and asked her how she felt about it. I've always been very open and honest with her about these things and I wanted her to know she had a say. She was more than happy with this and I had regular check in chats with her to discuss her feelings. I've never introduced any previous partner etc to her. So its always just been the two of us. But this time with the history etc I thought this would be the time.
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BookiesBicycle · 19/05/2021 22:02

Children are not objects for everyone to be allowed to play with without being checked out long term and making sure it will be a lasting relationship. A revolving door isn’t ideal. Especially when it causes devastation like this which will no doubt impact both of you quite a lot.

Grimacenotgrommet · 19/05/2021 22:04

This sounds very dysfunctional and sorry to say incredibly immature and from someone who is a mother that’s a huge concern.

FaceTiming for 18 hours a day is abnormal and bizarre. Where was your daughter when you did this?

I’d suggest you seek some professional help to establish why you formed such an intense and childish bond with this woman and why you subjected your daughter to it also

bellsbuss · 19/05/2021 22:11

How the hell did you manage 18 hours a day face timing when you have an 8 year old child ??

Miasicarisatia · 19/05/2021 22:11

I think this woman has love bombed you and her dumping you is part of the discard hoover cycle

Miasicarisatia · 19/05/2021 22:14

I think she deliberately made you fall in love with her, Made a pretence of trying to make a bond with your child to get your hopes up and then deliberately dashed your hopes, she wants to try and and make you choose between her and your child ...this is my prediction

CorsaG19 · 19/05/2021 22:17

You guys are savage but I appreciate it. I do feel I need to clarify

The 18 hours facetime included my 8-10 hours sleeping. And the rest was bits during the day. Mainly when my daughter was at school. And this wasn't me sat there absorbed fully in it. This was the ipad in the room with us whilst we both worked etc. Just chatting to each other in between said work. I admit it's not the norm and not something I've done before but after 6 years pretty much on my own I rolled with it because it was her thing, it was lockdown, and it wasn't effecting the home life.

At no time was my daughter neglected etc. She was my full priority and whilst it was homework/tea/bath/bedtime etc it was just the two of us.

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Doona · 19/05/2021 22:21

She sounds awful. Seriously, what? She wants to be the sole focus of someone's attention? Everything's been weird because of covid, so I'm sure it feel bad, but sounds like you're better without.

CorsaG19 · 19/05/2021 22:24

@Miasicarisatia

I think she deliberately made you fall in love with her, Made a pretence of trying to make a bond with your child to get your hopes up and then deliberately dashed your hopes, she wants to try and and make you choose between her and your child ...this is my prediction
We had had a discussion last month regarding Xmas and how I loved it and she wasn't keen and she made a comment about me going to New York with her for Xmas day but without my daughter. I laughed thinking she was joking and told her absolutely not. I told her I would never not spend an Xmas day without my daughter (obviously until she's older and has her own plans) and this was brought up in the break up call. She said she couldn't understand my reaction.
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MissTrip82 · 19/05/2021 22:25

It sounds so unhealthy. FaceTiming while you’re sleeping? It reads like the obsessive friendship of teenage girls not a healthy adult relationship.

Honestly she’s done you a favour. What you’re describing is not the strong healthy relationship of mature adults who care deeply for each other. It’s obsession.

The ‘daughter is my full priority’ stuff reads very hollow in that context too. It’s really really unlikely you were managing that level of obsession and remaining as fully present and committed to your daughter as you say.

I think you really dropped the ball here and need help to work through it.

premium77 · 19/05/2021 22:26

@Grimacenotgrommet

This sounds very dysfunctional and sorry to say incredibly immature and from someone who is a mother that’s a huge concern.

FaceTiming for 18 hours a day is abnormal and bizarre. Where was your daughter when you did this?

I’d suggest you seek some professional help to establish why you formed such an intense and childish bond with this woman and why you subjected your daughter to it also

This^. Like reading a 13 year olds diary.

Not to mention you had an emotional affair so your ‘relationship’ didn’t exactly have solid footing.

Lottielovescake · 19/05/2021 22:28

It sounds like a very strange, intense and unhealthy relationship that you and your daughter are better off without. You need to see it for what it was, OP - an infatuation that dragged on too far. You can have uncomplicated, non-toxic and functional relationships with people that are deep, loving and wonderful. This is not one of those. Spending that amount of time love-bombing someone is infantile and odd, frankly. Move on and find something that makes you genuinely happy - she is not your soul mate.

Miasicarisatia · 19/05/2021 22:32

I think she has coldly and deliberately set out to drive a wedge between you and your daughter to demonstrate how powerful she is to herself

HollowTalk · 19/05/2021 22:38

Look, if you're on Facetime to someone for 18 hours a day you are not prioritising your child. You can't be. And honestly, for you to sleep like that just makes me cringe.

ItsAHardKn0ckLife1 · 19/05/2021 22:44

FaceTime while sleeping? What? Confused

Miasicarisatia · 19/05/2021 22:45

CorsaG19 I feel you have been treated overly harsh on this thread, I hope you're ok these things can be very painful.
There have been numerous things in my romantic life where I look back and wonder wft was I thinking, you've been honest and open on here and it looks like a bit of a pile on to me, which you dont deserve.

gottakeeponmovin · 19/05/2021 22:49

I think that she tried and realised it want what she wanted. There are many people who don't want to take someone else's child on. Especially if she's younger and has a choice. She obviously really liked you but I think she has made the right decision for her. Certainly in my 20s I wouldn't have wanted to date a man with a child - and I don't think it's selfish to want to be the centre of someone's universe. If you take in children you have to accept that won't be the case and for some that's not enough

wingsnthat · 19/05/2021 22:56

@Doona

She sounds awful. Seriously, what? She wants to be the sole focus of someone's attention? Everything's been weird because of covid, so I'm sure it feel bad, but sounds like you're better without.
She doesn’t sound awful

I don’t date anyone with kids as I’m in my early 20s and am not interested in them (nor am I mature enough to be someone’s step mum!) When I do have kids, I want it to be first-time experience for both my partner and I. Therefore when I seriously date someone, I want to be the focus of their attention. That’s normal in a childless relationship surely

OP’s ex was upfront with how she felt about kids and tried to make it work, but the relationship wasn’t right. They do both sound theatrical though.

wingsnthat · 19/05/2021 22:58

For example she wants to go on spontaneous weekends away or spend Christmas abroad etc, but you can’t because you’re tied to your home and looking after your child. Both weekend plans are valid, it’s just that you’re not compatible together

HoldontoOneMoreDay · 19/05/2021 23:08

I think it sounds like a really weirdly intense crush-type relationship where at least one of you has love bombed the other. But to be honest I've heard about so many of these relationships over lockdown - my friend was telling me yesterday about a mutual pal who's marrying a widow with 3 kids she met and moved in with in the autumn there... so no judgement from me, people have been behaving in a way they maybe wouldn't have with the normal distractions of work, friends and family contact.

I'm really sorry you're hurting, but I think that's a side effect of the intensity of the relationship. It will get easier, but you have to try and switch off the part of your brain that was getting so much pleasure from the intensity of the connection.

BrilliantBetty · 19/05/2021 23:10

That's tough OP.

But it's fair enough. And better that she made this decision now rather than months / years down the line when it could have caused more upset and disruption. Or even fractured yours and your DDs relationship.

Getting over a break up is so hard. It is natural to grieve. Call the Samaritans, since you're looking at their number. No shame in it. They might help.
Also can you access support from another source, Mind possibly?

CorsoG19 · 19/05/2021 23:16

For some reason my account was deleted so I cant comment under the post username.

I did state that I fully respect her reasoning for it and I appreciate that she told me now before it escalated further so I have no issue with that. I just felt like I needed to chat to people who didn't know us because I felt so lost. The mixture of comments certainly has done the trick.

I spent many years in an abusive relationship which I finally managed to leave just after my daughter was born so I missed the majority of my teens and early twenties so I dont really know what is the norm. The whole sleeping on facetime is certainly new to me but my 18yo sister thinks it's nice on the odd occasion. It was just that as we were in lockdown and my ex had had to move back home she said she slept better knowing I was there. So I rolled with it because it wasn't harming anyone.

I'm probably just feeling lonely because we spoke every day and now I don't have that.

I do appreciate all the comments..bad and good. I think its hard to really get it across clearly.