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stuckducks · 16/05/2021 09:49

New ish DP, exclusively dating. He is the best man I’ve met ever I think. I realise that sounds a bit over the top and I don’t know him completely yet, but I am very happy with him. We laugh a lot, we have similar interests, he’s very kind very funny very caring. What I’m about to say will have some posters suggesting he is married etc but I can say with as much certainty as is possible that that is not the case.

One thing that is just becoming a big problem for me is that he is massively inflexible. We don’t live together and he doesn’t work from home, I do and always have. His hours are unpredictable (works in banking role) and mine are full on but flexible. If I get the work done then I can work wherever and however I like. Some weekends he will work (that’s normal in his profession). I’ve said to him repeatedly that during those times I would like to see him in the week, just for a night. I’ve offered to go over when he finished work, work from his place the following day then see him for dinner the next night. Maybe I’m asking too much?? His response is always that he wants to and he misses me but he ‘doesn’t know how it will work.’ I have been round in circles with him about this. I’ve spelled out exactly how it could work... ie I will leave when he leaves work and get there half an hour after he’s home. We will then have dinner and go to bed, even if it’s late and he’s finished mid evening. I’ve said I don’t mind. A couple of times he has agreed, we’ve had a lovely time and the next day he texts saying he’s so glad that I stayed and that it was nice waking up together etc. But actually getting him to agree to it is really starting to damage my self esteem as I just don’t understand the reluctance?

I have raised this with him and he just doesn’t really say anything other than he doesn’t see how it could work Confused it is infuriating that he won’t spell out to me what the issue is. This then led to me getting frustrated and asking him how he expects a relationship to be maintained when he can’t even spend a night in the week together? I asked if he was bothered about it and if he even cared about this...to which he burst into tears, said he’s rubbish at relationships and he’s trying Hmm

When he’s had a drink he will often say he’s so thankful I am patient with him and he’s sorry he is so rubbish at all this. I think what he says is genuine.

Aside from this issue, when he’s not working weekends and we are together it is wonderful. It is the best relationship I’ve ever had. We speak on the phone often and I miss him massively when apart. He does thoughtful things like sorts my car as he knows i hate all that stuff, he’s sent me books he thinks I would like, he comes to visit me on his time off. All the usual stuff.

My best friend has said I need to totally withdraw from this and show him that if he can’t commit to regular week day meet ups during weeks he is working all over a weekend, then he doesn’t get the phone calls, the texts and the nice weekend dates. She thinks this is the best chance of making him realise what damage he is doing. I am minded to send one last message on it, being direct and just suggesting a day to go over next week. Then if he doesn’t agree or is difficult, maybe say very little and leave him to it from there?

It’s horrible because he is everything I wanted in someone apart from this bit that he just can’t seem to be flexible about.

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Hadenough21 · 16/05/2021 09:57

This sounds really frustrating, but maybe he is worried about the relationship moving too fast and if you start coming over during the week then it’ll escalate and you’ll soon be spending every night together? Some people like their space and time on their own. How long have you been together? Have you talked about hopes for the future at all? Like whether you both hope for marriage / children etc? (Not necessarily with each other of course but in general?)

midnightstar66 · 16/05/2021 10:03

It sounds really hard work tbh. I'd do as you say and give it one last shot. Sounds like he prefers the idea of a relationship and the phone calls more than the reality and physical side

PoTheDog · 16/05/2021 10:03

Tbh, it doesn't really matter why he can't/won't. It's more important that you are not getting what you need from this relationship.

You either bend so everything suits him, and then get resentful and eventually leave. Or you leave soon because he isn't able/willing to give what you want. I did the former and wish I did the latter.

It's worth one more conversation, really spelling out that these are your needs in a relationship and how does he suggest they can be met. Don't leave without an answer, even if gets upset. Your request isn't unreasonable.

stuckducks · 16/05/2021 10:06

@Hadenough21 thanks for reading and replying.

Yes we seem to be on the same page generally. It could well be about taking things slow? It’s been 5 months now though...would it not be normal to see each other weekly at least? In my experience by now you’d be spending more time together. Maybe I’m being to full on? He’s early 40s though so not sure how slow he wants to go?!

I wonder if my friend is right and I just withdraw now. I’m tempted to try again this week. I don’t know. Its becoming a lot of effort.

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stuckducks · 16/05/2021 10:10

@PoTheDog thanks. I haven’t seen him since a week ago on Sunday as he’s working this weekend. He’s been in touch, chatty. Said last week we could try and do a weeknight next week. But there’s been no mention of when. And if I’m going over I need to organise my own week too. I just find it disrespectful.

I’m thinking of texting something like ‘I’d like to make time to see you this week. How does Wednesday night sound and I will work from yours on Thursday, get take out Thursday night?’ Literally just be direct and put the idea to him. If he rejects it or is difficult I don’t think there’s much point having a discussion, I might just leave it entirely and not respond. What do you think?

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midnightstar66 · 16/05/2021 10:12

After 5 months I don't think your expectations are unreasonable, it's also not ideal that when you do convince him to see you its all your effort . The 'not sure how it will work' excuse is odd when you've done it and it's worked perfectly well. If he had kids and didn't want to introduce a partner yet I'd maybe understand but this doesn't seem to be the case.

stuckducks · 16/05/2021 10:15

@midnightstar66 yeah it’s so rubbish! I’ve withdrawn before to see if it was him just not arsed about us, but he gets in touch, makes the effort, offers to come over. I’ve literally not initiated contact for days at a time to see if he’s just not interested but he is always in touch. It’s very confusing.

I think I will send the message and if I don’t get the response i want it’s time for me to draw a line.

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midnightstar66 · 16/05/2021 10:19

I'd do the same, but I'd explain clearly why one final time rather than just leaving it, for your own sanity. I think you'll feel better having got that off your chest.

stuckducks · 16/05/2021 10:21

What do you mean @midnightstar66 ? Explain why I intend to withdraw if i do?

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litterbird · 16/05/2021 10:21

I would personally leave it for now. You are bending too much for him. He needs to step up. I think he just isn't in the head space for a relationship right now. No ones fault just wrong timing. I would start taking steps to move apart and see if there are other men out there willing to step up and give you what you need.

midnightstar66 · 16/05/2021 10:24

Yes, where you've said you'll just draw a line under it and not respond. Instead I'd explain very clearly why you are drawing a line under it.

spotcheck · 16/05/2021 10:26

So, you would have to work at his house when he is at work? Maybe he doesn't want you in his space without him there?

stuckducks · 16/05/2021 10:27

@midnightstar66 I feel I’ve made myself very very clear previously so at this point I think I will just say very little. I’m utterly fed up of it and it’s horrible because everything is so perfect. I don’t think I could face discussing it again with him, makes me too sad.

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SortingItOut · 16/05/2021 10:27

I think 5 months is too early for you to be staying at his during the day while he is out at work.
Why can't you go home in the morning when he leaves for work?

What you are proposing is 2 nights a week and not 1.

A lot of people early on in dating only like to see people when they are not working, work cantake a lot out of people and they might just want to relax.

Are you the lady who's partner worked this weekend and is going away with friends next weekend because this sounds familiar?

stuckducks · 16/05/2021 10:27

@spotcheck yes I did think that? He said that wasn’t the case but maybe he was being polite?

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stuckducks · 16/05/2021 10:29

@SortingItOut good point, I could just suggest one night, two makes it a bit more of a full on thing.

And no I’ve actually never posted before but at end of my tether with this situation!

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RantyAnty · 16/05/2021 10:32

It really shouldn't be this hard this early.

He clearly puts himself first always.
If he wanted to see you more, he would.

I can't see how this would work out long term.

SortingItOut · 16/05/2021 10:32

I wouldn't let my boyfriend be in my house without me and we've been together nearly 2 years.

I think your boyfriend was just being polite by saying he didn't mind you being in his house alone.

Oh ok, sounds very similar, that lady admitted she had an anxious avoidant attachment style which made lack of contact 100x worse and she could only consider worse case scenario.

stuckducks · 16/05/2021 10:34

@RantyAnty I know I think I agree. Do you agree with other posters saying being in his place without him might be a bit much? Would one night be better suggestion

I do think after this I’m going to leave the topic entirely and just start dating again as it’s impossible to have a relationship with him if he can’t move an inch to fit me into his life

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babychange12 · 16/05/2021 10:36

It's a bit weird you being in his house without him, I wouldn't feel very comfortable about it

stuckducks · 16/05/2021 10:36

@SortingItOut no that’s not me! I’m probably the opposite of anxious attachment...too far the other way Grin interesting comment about not letting your bf in alone after two years. Do you mind asking how old you both are? For me it would be quite natural to trust someone in your space after you’ve been sleeping with them. I am maybe a bit full on though. Blush

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midnightstar66 · 16/05/2021 10:37

I do agree the staying in the house on your own may be too much for some so fair enough to drop that and I do understand if it feels better just to leave it, that's your call if you've already had your say. In this case I don't think it sounds like you are too full on (often is on these types of threads) and I can fully appreciate your frustration and I'd not waste any more time if nothing changes.

SortingItOut · 16/05/2021 10:39

@stuckducks I'm 40 and my partner is 37.

How can you trust someone that much after 5 months?
You barely know him.

stuckducks · 16/05/2021 10:39

@midnightstar66 thanks. I’m just a bit fed up of being the understanding one who is ok with him having weekends in the office (many of his colleagues don’t do this ALL weekend, he chooses to). I support him with that as it matters to him. I’m not demanding, I’m not expecting dinners out or holidays, just a bloody night staying over!

I will suggest it one last time but after that I’m over and out. And will be gutted about it too :(

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stuckducks · 16/05/2021 10:40

@SortingItOut fair point. I will drop the suggesting of staying longer than the night.

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