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Pregnant again and relationship breakdown - wtf am I doing???

58 replies

EW444 · 17/04/2021 02:22

I could really do with any form of advice...

I got pregnant with twins a few months into seeing a guy, he was a friend for a long time and we’d always been very close. We decided we wanted to be together and have these babies. We were form two different cities at the time, I owned a 2-bed apartment that was big enough to house my babies and my family/friends are here so we decided we would carry on living separately and raise children here. I did not anticipate how hard pregnancy and raising the babies would be he would come for half the week then go back to his home. I started to grow to resent him because he had this ‘other life’ and was free to do as he pleased when he wasn’t here. I suffered with post-natal depression and it was hard!!!!

Fast forward a year and a half we still live separately and I am pregnant again I took the morning after pill because he said he would not move here, I suggested any other city but not where he is from and he said there was no point in that. So it was London or nothing. Financially we could not afford a property there not a chance, we both work part time and we’d have to go into social housing this was his only suggestion. I do not want to sell my property to move to a city I cannot afford to live in or own a property. And I don’t want to raise my children in London. My family have also been my rock throughout raising my children so far helping me in his absence and I don’t think I could bear to be so far away from them. I want a house with a garden for my little girls which is more than affordable here if he was to assist. I’m now back and forth what to do with the pregnancy, I would need to sell regardless and buy a bigger place but on my wage it is going to be tough to do by myself and with my partner refusing to buy a house I will be doing it alone.

The relationship has basically broken down because he is not willing to make any sacrifices or compromises to accommodate a third child that he says he wants. Equally I know he doesn’t want to move here and I don’t want to force that upon him but if we can’t agree where to live I don’t see why we can’t just buy here temporarily.. he says he will be keeping his flat in London regardless and this is a massive cost that takes away from any of our future plans.

We’re at loggerheads most the time and we’ve honestly realised how different we are, religion culture, family, beliefs sometimes it seems we at completely different ends of the spectrum. He’s a playful dad but doesn’t seem to help with all the hard work I will sort the girls in almost every way whilst maintaining the house whilst making him dinner and catering to him. I’ve asked for help so many times and when I do it’s yes I’ll do it but on my terms and when I’m ready. I find this highly irritating when he isn’t doing anything!!!

I know the relationship is basically over and it’s now become an uncomfortable environment as he still comes here every week for a few nights and stays in the same bed but we don’t talk. I don’t know what to say anymore. I breakdown most days because of the stress of contemplating abortion, shared custody of the girls in different cities, financially supporting a third child and sorting out bigger housing in 6 months. I feel completely alone and he doesn’t seem to understand or care.

Am I crazy to even think of having this baby? Should I be more understanding of what he wants?

He doesn’t drive either with is another annoyance I am expected to drive to ldn to see his family which i don’t mind on occasion but then he will complain we should be going more frequently however he doesn’t realise how big of job it is to pack up two 15 month olds drive 3hrs down to london to spend the night in his 1 bed flat with 2 travel cots that the girls refuse to sleep in and we barely have room to move around. His flat is not even finished the kitchen is ripped out their is no over and bathroom has not been done but we manage to get some warm water. It is uncomfortable and hard work but I still do it and it’s never enough. I feel he has all these demand and expectations but doesn’t put in any of the ground work. His response is always ‘so we have to struggle for a bit’ he’ll say I’m not willing to put hard work in or be out of my comfort zone. However I don’t understand why I need to choose to struggle???

We are just so different!!!!! Sorry I went on!!! Rant over.

OP posts:
EW444 · 17/04/2021 02:23

Oh I didn’t say the morning after pill didn’t work!!

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Aquamarine1029 · 17/04/2021 02:39

In your position, I would be ending this doomed relationship for good and terminating the pregnancy.

Creepygnochi · 17/04/2021 02:39

I feel very sad for you. It's a bad situation to be, for both you and your children. I think you need to put the dreams up on the shelf for the moment and start thinking about realistically what what your life as a single mother to 2/3 will look like in practicality. Forget the house with a yard, forget the marriage, if you had to do it today, with the finances and resources that you have, what would that look like?

Opentooffers · 17/04/2021 02:49

If you're not far gone, in your shoes I'd take the abortion pill sorry. This guy is working part time for what reason? Basically, he says it's London or bust, but I have a feeling that if you went to him, you'd have one more person to look after, he sounds quite lazy and ineffective the way you describe. Why are you waiting on him when he visits? That's the time he should be stepping up.
Whether you chose to keep the pregnancy going or not, you would be better off getting shot of him and claiming CMS. I hope he pays you currently.

Maggiesfarm · 17/04/2021 05:28

@Aquamarine1029

In your position, I would be ending this doomed relationship for good and terminating the pregnancy.
So would I.

I believe part time relationships can be very good but not with children.

NotaCoolMum · 17/04/2021 06:05

@Creepygnochi

I feel very sad for you. It's a bad situation to be, for both you and your children. I think you need to put the dreams up on the shelf for the moment and start thinking about realistically what what your life as a single mother to 2/3 will look like in practicality. Forget the house with a yard, forget the marriage, if you had to do it today, with the finances and resources that you have, what would that look like?
100% yes^^ Also why is he only working part time?! (Sorry- totally off topic but seems mad to have 2 children (3rd on the way) and only work part time! (Him not you op)
pog100 · 17/04/2021 06:33

It's doomed and probably always should have been. For god's sake stop accommodating his needs, and don't make your life much harder with a third child.

SushiYum · 17/04/2021 06:40

This setup (not really a relationship) was doomed from the start. If you’re not ready to be a single mum of 3 then you need to think about your options. Do you really want this baby? Can you afford another child? This guy has not helped out with the twins so he won’t help this time either.

Did you use contraception for both the twins and this current pregnancy?

SushiYum · 17/04/2021 06:44

He wants you to move so he can live out his social life whilst you mother him. He’s basically a spoilt child. You took the morning after pill so you clearly do not want a third child with this man-child. Book yourself in for some abortion pills. From now on, if he wants to see the twins then he needs to get to you. Stop driving the kids there. Stop bending to his wishes!!!

DianaT1969 · 17/04/2021 06:54

It's a rubbish 'relationship' and always was. Don't worry about sharing custody part of the week. He can't drive and won't want them on his own in his small flat.
Do not drive them to London to see him or his family again!! You are not his free Uber driver. You are a busy woman and mother. Stop sleeping with him. Don't allow him to stay over. He doesn't deserve your time.

JennyBond · 17/04/2021 06:56

Agree with others, unfortunately in your situation I would have a termination.

Why does he only work part time? He already has two kids to support.

harknesswitch · 17/04/2021 07:09

I agree with the other pp. stay close to your support network, terminate the pregnancy find your house with a garden. Oh and dump your useless bf. He's happy being a part time dad and bf, he'll never step up.

MrsBungle · 17/04/2021 07:17

I’d terminate if it was me.

niceupthedance · 17/04/2021 07:40

I would not go ahead with the pregnancy and also not with the relationship he sounds like a selfish waste of space . Sorry.

Lozzerbmc · 17/04/2021 07:58

We’ll have to struggle for a bit? Doesnt sound like hes doing much of that... he has it made doesnt he? A ready made family who he can pick up and drop at his leisure where he can just get the best bits of family life, then have his freedom, who come to his home and then leave giving him peace and quiet.

First off I’d end this relationship which you get no commitment from. Then stop trapsing down to him. He can come and see you. He cant drive? Give him a train timetable. Or sometimes go to him and drop the girls off and take a break! Stay in a hotel!

As to your pregnancy its a tough one as it would obviously be a major struggle with young twins and another on your own, practically and financially. Good luck in what you decide

Dery · 17/04/2021 08:03

“I agree with the other pp. stay close to your support network, terminate the pregnancy find your house with a garden. Oh and dump your useless bf. He's happy being a part time dad and bf, he'll never step up.”

This.

Pinchoftums · 17/04/2021 08:06

I would definitely terminate the pregnancy and be sad but realistic about it. Then get used to being happily single.

UhtredRagnarson · 17/04/2021 08:06

I would terminate too. Your life is already about to get much harder now that your relationship is over. You don’t need it to be getting a million times harder by putting another child into it. I also don’t think it’s right to knowingly bring a child into this situation.

Fireflygal · 17/04/2021 08:27

He isn't struggling or making much of a compromise.

Most parents with young children move out of London due to lack of space, his refusal to consider it is selfish

I can understand why he might not to keen to move 3 hours away since it represents a big change but given he can't see his family full time you think he would be determined to make it work.
He isnt committed to you or your children.

The 3rd child is for you alone to decide as you will be raising the child solo and will have to bear the costs. What do your family say?

EW444 · 17/04/2021 08:40

Wow thank you so much for the replies o really didn’t expect anyone to advise so this is really appreciated!

Agree he’s 30 working part time, he says ‘he doesn’t want to be a slave to his job’ and wants balance... I wouldn’t mind if he was on an obscene salary but it’s 20-25k salary... and the thing is I have a well paid job I only reduced my hours to part time for the child care I’ll be going back full time once the girls are old enough!!!

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EW444 · 17/04/2021 08:45

My family support me either way! My dad is helping me financially but is majorly pissed off that he is having to do this for me and my girls instead of my partner which is completely understand!! I have a really close net family which is the best thing. My mum and sister would help me with. Third baby but part of me is like why am I allowing myself to have a third baby with someone who doesn’t deserve it you know??? The other part is like the baby isn’t to blame for anything ...

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UhtredRagnarson · 17/04/2021 08:54

My mum and sister would help me with. Third baby

It’s really not ok for you to make that decision for them though. You shouldn’t be having a baby based on the support you known other people will feel obliged to provide. That’s quite selfish. Your mum and sister love you, so of course they will help but if they were asked to be honest they’d probably prefer not to have to. You have a choice here. Your dad is already having to help you financially. So you’re going to ask for more from him for another baby he had nothing to do with creating?

harknesswitch · 17/04/2021 09:03

I hope he's giving you child maint for your two girls?

EW444 · 17/04/2021 09:05

Yes this is true also!! I think my mum and sister really don’t want me to have an abortion hence there generosity. And I’ve taken this into
Consideration also! By all means I haven’t said you have to help me this is just the approach they have all took as they are worried about me and my mum doesn’t really believe in abortion. I don’t want to burden anyone to be honest it should be for me and my partner to sort out completely agree!! If I’m honest my head has always said terminate the pregnancy it’s too much but my heart is like could I really do that?

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litterbird · 17/04/2021 09:08

What a terrible mess OP. I would terminate the pregnancy and terminate the relationship. I would also seriously consider your birth control too. I am sorry but it was quite remiss of you both to be in a position of getting pregnant again with twins already, living separate and your family picking up the pieces. Please stop and think what you are doing to everyone around you and your babies. You simply cant keep relying on everyone to help with your bad choices. Sorry to be harsh, but honestly this situation is terrible and to bring another child into it? Please, please think about what you are doing.

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